Ricky Rubio visiting Sac facilities now

[pillwenney]

I agree which is why I rate them equally. Maybe I chose my words wrong. He's more looking for the fame or cares more about promoting himself than doing what's right for the team. You have to admit that his bitching and moaning about where he will not play and his refusal to workout and barely interview is alarming. If the goal is to get to the NBA and play againgt the best then play wherever. I mean come on. Who wouldn't want to play with Durant, Green, & Westbrook on a nice young up & coming team. What's wrong with playing with one of your contrymen and more young talent. To hell with Mayo, if you're that good, you will make him expendable.

If the interviews have showed anything, it's that Ricky really isn't familiar with the teams. I think it's safe to say that a lot of this whole situation can be linked back directly to Fegan. Rubio has yet to "bitch and moan" about anything publicly. All accounts of Ricky are that he's a good, very mature kid.

[bgassassin]

One of the local morning shows mentioned Rubio measured around 6'5.5/6'6 with shoes on while there. Anything to back that up?

[pillwenney]

One of the local morning shows mentioned Rubio measured around 6'5.5/6'6 with shoes on while there. Anything to back that up?

Not that I know of. But that would be really interesting if true. I've always thought he would be an even more interesting prospect in general if he were big enough to guard SG's. So if that's true, it would be very interesting.

[SacKingZZZ]

One of the local morning shows mentioned Rubio measured around 6'5.5/6'6 with shoes on while there. Anything to back that up?

Sam Amick of the Bee said Rubio definitely looked more like 6'5" to him.

[VeeJay24]

I agree which is why I rate them equally. Maybe I chose my words wrong. He's more looking for the fame or cares more about promoting himself than doing what's right for the team. You have to admit that his bitching and moaning about where he will not play and his refusal to workout and barely interview is alarming. If the goal is to get to the NBA and play againgt the best then play wherever. I mean come on. Who wouldn't want to play with Durant, Green, & Westbrook on a nice young up & coming team. What's wrong with playing with one of your contrymen and more young talent. To hell with Mayo, if you're that good, you will make him expendable.

If the interviews have showed anything, it's that Ricky really isn't familiar with the teams. I think it's safe to say that a lot of this whole situation can be linked back directly to Fegan. Rubio has yet to "bitch and moan" about anything publicly. All accounts of Ricky are that he's a good, very mature kid.

Mitch, you're making excuses for him. Fegan is his agent and he works for him. If he didn't like what Fegan was doing or saying he can tell him to cool it or dump him. Just like Boldin in the NFL did to one of the best or at least best known agents. So, saying it's his agent doesn't cut it since the agent represents him.

[bgassassin]

One of the Spanish Grizzlies' fans confirmed that Euro league measurements are done without shoes. So this whole time we've been seeing Rubio listed at 6'4, that was his measurement without shoes.

[RoyalCourtJestr]

Thats interesting to know. I wish we could see his other messurements, but knowing he's gonna be 6-5 to 6-6 in shoes is pretty cool.

[Johnny Firpo]

He really has an excellent frame. Unreal potential. Sacramento would be a good place for him, maybe the best. Vamos Ricky!

[pillwenney]

Mitch, you're making excuses for him. Fegan is his agent and he works for him. If he didn't like what Fegan was doing or saying he can tell him to cool it or dump him. Just like Boldin in the NFL did to one of the best or at least best known agents. So, saying it's his agent doesn't cut it since the agent represents him.

That's ridiculous. So because he's not objecting to what his agent his doing he's a bad kid? Because he's following his agent's advice, HE is the selfish guy?

Maybe he should get rid of Fegan or object to what he's saying, but most players just follow what their agent tells them until they are clearly led in the wrong direction. Point being--merely not objecting to what his agent is doing hardly makes Ricky a guy with character problems.

[Dewey]

Outside of Curry, every PG prospect has to work on shooting.

So really you need to evaluate:
Curry= average defender and good passer - good setup guy. Average getting to basket.
Evans= excellent defender and average passer - average setup guy. Excellent getting to basket.
Rubio= average defender and excellent passer - excellent setup guy. Average getting to basket.
Flynn= good defender and good passer - very good setup guy. Good getting to basket.
Jennings= average defender and excellent passer - excellent setup guy. Good getting to basket
Holiday= excellent defender and good passer - average setup guy. Average getting to basket.

[rpa]

Outside of Curry, every PG prospect has to work on shooting.

So really you need to evaluate:
Curry= average defender and good passer - good setup guy. Average getting to basket.
Evans= excellent defender and average passer - average setup guy. Excellent getting to basket.
Rubio= average defender and excellent passer - excellent setup guy. Average getting to basket.
Flynn= good defender and good passer - very good setup guy. Good getting to basket.
Jennings= average defender and excellent passer - excellent setup guy. Good getting to basket
Holiday= excellent defender and good passer - average setup guy. Average getting to basket.

Stephon Curry = sieve on defense. Rubio's been an all-defense type player in Europe.

[SacKingZZZ]

Curry is actually a pretty solid defender. I think he'll be fine on defense.

[Dewey]

Curry and Rubio are both okay one-on-one with a player similar in size, plus, they do a decent job getting in the passing lanes and anticipating steals. Neither player gets through picks too well or have technique to handle more physical players. Rubio is better in the full-court, where Curry is a better half court defender.

Not big issues, but reasons I called them average - Rubio certainly having the edge. Evans and Flynn are better, Holiday is the best defender and possibly THE PG of the draft when all is said and done.

[cingular]

IMO Holliday is actually the worst pure PG of the bunch and possibly guard in general on that 2nd tier.

You might as well take Harden if you want Jrue or Evans to attempt to play pg.
Holliday is not even close to grading out like Westbrook so how is he an excellent defender?
Evans could be a stud in a few years but you have Martin already.

Jennings also has potential to be a good on ball defender if he gets a bit stronger due to his elite quickness. I know Rubio is a smart positional defender but you really think he can keep up with Aaron Brooks or CPIII?
Flynn will be exposed defensively as well.

[SacKingZZZ]

When I saw Holiday get a chance to play PG he looked pretty good at finding his teammates to me, the concern I have is with his scoring potential.

[Smills91]

See, the proof is in the picture, Rubio Knows EXACTLY where he is getting drafted:

[frangs]

See, the proof is in the picture, Rubio Knows EXACTLY where he is getting drafted:

Lol. Funny.

By the way, they (Ricky and Joventut) haven't reached an agreement. Fresh news.

Still only in Spanish, I guess in the next hours or minutes it will be reported in American sites.
http://www.europapress.es/deportes/balo ... 61117.html

[Smills91]

See, the proof is in the picture, Rubio Knows EXACTLY where he is getting drafted:

Lol. Funny.

By the way, they (Ricky and Joventut) haven't reached an agreement. Fresh news.

Still only in Spanish, I guess in the next hours or minutes it will be reported in American sites.
http://www.europapress.es/deportes/balo ... 61117.html

Favors Sacramento to get him at #4 IMO.