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The What Should We Do With the 5th Pick II: IBJ Edition

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Re: The What Should We Do With the 5th Pick II: IBJ Edition 

Post#501 » by queridiculo » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:21 pm

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We need to bring in a back court player to cover carons lack of STANDING REACH? LMAO AT YOU, give up PLEASE PLEASE GIVE UP NOW, I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE.

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Post#502 » by Zerocious » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:33 pm

i mean, i hear what you'resaying. if you could compile a team from scratch (talent and skill being a given) lateral movement and standing reach will have an impact, but now it's time to give it a rest. if this is your entire argument, it will run thin as it has with many.
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Post#503 » by TheSecretWeapon » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:39 pm

Standing reach and lateral movement should be part of player evaluation. WizarDynasty has turned it into a fetish. Which is one reason why he's the first person to spend more than 30 minutes on my ignore list since I started posting here in 2001.
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Post#504 » by fishercob » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:56 pm

TheSecretWeapon wrote:Standing reach and lateral movement should be part of player evaluation. WizarDynasty has turned it into a fetish. Which is one reason why he's the first person to spend more than 30 minutes on my ignore list since I started posting here in 2001.


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Re: The What Should We Do With the 5th Pick II: IBJ Edition 

Post#505 » by Zerocious » Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:01 pm

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TheSecretWeapon wrote:Standing reach and lateral movement should be part of player evaluation. WizarDynasty has turned it into a fetish. Which is one reason why he's the first person to spend more than 30 minutes on my ignore list since I started posting here in 2001.


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Post#507 » by verbal8 » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:20 pm

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NYKBaller wrote:you guys want cap relief i mean, EG might bite


Are you really that delusional and misinformed that you think this is a realistic offer?

1. Etan and James are both expiring contracts making your point irrelevant.

2. Hughes is not worth anything close to the fifth pick.

3. Chad Ford is notorious for blowing steam making him about as unreliable as it gets.

Etan, James, and the fifth pick for Hughes and the eighth is the only deal I consider assuming Amare and Bosh are unobtainable.


I think Hughes and the 5th for the 8th and Etan/James could be a good trade. I think it happens if Curry is on the board and there are a number of prospects that the Wizards have rated about equal.
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Post#508 » by fugop » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:33 pm

What do people think about Young/James/Songaila + pick swap for Iguodala? If Rubio's there, I could see Philly going for it. EJ obviously has some fondness for Songaila, and may appreciate the familiarity with Young, who would complement T. Young well.
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Post#509 » by LyricalRico » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:40 pm

fugop wrote:What do people think about Young/James/Songaila + pick swap for Iguodala? If Rubio's there, I could see Philly going for it. EJ obviously has some fondness for Songaila, and may appreciate the familiarity with Young, who would complement T. Young well.


Heck freaking yeah! Better yet, I would do Young+Songaila+James+Critt+5 for Iggy+Speights. Then we take Darren Collison with the #32.

Haywood/Blatche/McGee
Jamison/Speights
Butler/McGuire
Iggy/Stevenson
Arenas/Collison

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Post#510 » by WizarDynasty » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:43 pm

obviously you are a big fan of mine because for some reason you keep taking me off the ignore list and responding to my post lmao. Stick to your guns, do us both a favor and keep me on ignore and I don't have to read your silly comments and no I don't have anyone on ignore lmao. :crazy:
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Post#511 » by Ruzious » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:44 pm

Gotsta figure that Iggy is pretty much untouchable at this point. We might have had a chance at him early last season - when he was struggling badly. But once Brand got hurt, Iggy's game miraculously came back.
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Post#512 » by Wizardspride » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:56 pm

Chad Ford: Much has been made that the Grizzlies, Thunder and Kings hold the keys to the draft. But most of the hand wringing by at least a dozen GMs at the moment surrounds what the Washington Wizards will do at No. 5.

We first reported on lottery night that the Wizards would shop their pick. Over the course of the past week, Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld has been pretty open about it, telling the media Monday that the team still was looking at all options.

"We have a good feel for what we have and we feel we can find a good player [in the draft]," Grunfeld said. "At the same time, we have had some interesting conversations. I think, whether we keep the pick, we're going to get a very solid player. In the meantime, we're going to continue to listen to what other teams have to say."

The Wizards have rebuffed any advances for players like Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison. Instead, they've put together a pretty basic wish list: Take a couple of our bad contracts, save us some money and give us a veteran or two who can help right now.

Etan Thomas, Mike James and Darius Songaila seem to be the three players the Wizards wouldn't mind getting off the books.

The Wizards have gotten at least 10 offers for the pick, but every team I spoke with still was in the dark about where it stood.

The Knicks have offered Larry Hughes for Thomas and James. The Wolves reportedly have offered Mike Miller. The Celtics would give them Ray Allen. The Rockets would give them Tracy McGrady and Carl Landry. The Bucks would send them Richard Jefferson. The Nets would entertain unloading Vince Carter. The Suns could do something with Shaquille O'Neal. The Blazers could part ways with Steve Blake, Jerryd Bayless or Travis Outlaw.

The question is: Are any of those offers good enough for the No. 5 pick? In most years, no. But this year, with the Wizards thinking they're poised to make a deep playoff run? It might be enough.

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Post#513 » by Rafael122 » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:01 pm

Out of those offers, I'd take Portlands. You give me Bayless and Outlaw for the 5th and Etan Thomas or Mike James and you've got yourself a deal. Key is, would Portland part with the 24th pick?
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Post#514 » by Mel Proctor » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:05 pm

From a pure on-court standpoint, isn't the Houston offer also somewhat intriguing? I mean, to get T-Mac and Landry for basically a bucket of spit and the #5? Or is T-Mac really done?

I am not sure what T-Mac is earning in salary, but if you were choosing up sides, wouldn't T-Mac still be a top choice?
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Post#515 » by Wizardspride » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:07 pm

Mel Proctor wrote:From a pure on-court standpoint, isn't the Houston offer also somewhat intriguing? I mean, to get T-Mac and Landry for basically a bucket of spit and the #5? Or is T-Mac really done?

I am not sure what T-Mac is earning in salary, but if you were choosing up sides, wouldn't T-Mac still be a top choice?

T-Mac has been done for years IMO. The accumulation of injuries have taken thier toll.

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Post#516 » by Zerocious » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:18 pm

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Mel Proctor wrote:From a pure on-court standpoint, isn't the Houston offer also somewhat intriguing? I mean, to get T-Mac and Landry for basically a bucket of spit and the #5? Or is T-Mac really done?

I am not sure what T-Mac is earning in salary, but if you were choosing up sides, wouldn't T-Mac still be a top choice?

T-Mac has been done for years IMO. The accumulation of injuries have taken thier toll.


he was incapable of being the no 1 guy on the team. i took to much of him. but here he could be anywhere from no 2 to no 5 really. if he has any gas left in the tank, healthy etc. i think he could very well here and still healthy since he wont have to have the ball in his hands when it matters most.
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Post#517 » by Wizardspride » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:21 pm

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Mel Proctor wrote:From a pure on-court standpoint, isn't the Houston offer also somewhat intriguing? I mean, to get T-Mac and Landry for basically a bucket of spit and the #5? Or is T-Mac really done?

I am not sure what T-Mac is earning in salary, but if you were choosing up sides, wouldn't T-Mac still be a top choice?

T-Mac has been done for years IMO. The accumulation of injuries have taken thier toll.


he was incapable of being the no 1 guy on the team. i took to much of him. but here he could be anywhere from no 2 to no 5 really. if he has any gas left in the tank, healthy etc. i think he could very well here and still healthy since he wont have to have the ball in his hands when it matters most.

I'm very leery of trading for T-Mac. You have to remember that he just had microfracture surgery and is expected to miss at least half of the upcoming season.

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Post#518 » by McGeeNArenas » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:28 pm

Why is AJ and Caron untouchable?

They both should be on the market.

If the wiretap is right, he should have taken the deal for Amare with Caron and the 5 going to the Suns. After that, we could have looked for a SF while using AJ as bait. Or at the least, traded AJ for a salary dump like Ben Wallace and started DM.
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Post#519 » by Shanghai Kid » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:32 pm

Honestly, I would still take T-Mac if he's healthy. The big question of course is his health.

We wouldn't be bringing him into be a star player, probably more like a third option. I like what he brings to the table as far as playmaking goes and I don't think he's a bad defender either.


Arenas
T-mac
Butler
Jamison
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Still one of the best starting line-ups in the leauge if Mac is healthy.
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Post#520 » by closg00 » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:34 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Out of those offers, I'd take Portlands. You give me Bayless and Outlaw for the 5th and Etan Thomas or Mike James and you've got yourself a deal. Key is, would Portland part with the 24th pick?


What's the deal with Bayless, why won't they give him PT? I think the knock on him is that he's another penetrating guard who can't shoot. The guy is lightening-quick though.

I imagine that Ernie will take or work with one of these offers on draft night.

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