The What Should We Do With the 5th Pick II: IBJ Edition

[Pitbull]

Why is AJ and Caron untouchable?

They both should be on the market.

If the wiretap is right, he should have taken the deal for Amare with Caron and the 5 going to the Suns. After that, we could have looked for a SF while using AJ as bait. Or at the least, traded AJ for a salary dump like Ben Wallace and started DM.

And have Amare walk for New York next off-season? No thanks. We're not close enough to play "Rent-a-Player" for Caron and #5.

Now if Amare agreed to resign.... then yes, make it happen!

[McGeeNArenas]

Why is AJ and Caron untouchable?

They both should be on the market.

If the wiretap is right, he should have taken the deal for Amare with Caron and the 5 going to the Suns. After that, we could have looked for a SF while using AJ as bait. Or at the least, traded AJ for a salary dump like Ben Wallace and started DM.

And have Amare walk for New York next off-season? No thanks. We're not close enough to play "Rent-a-Player" for Caron and #5.

Now if Amare agreed to resign.... then yes, make it happen!

Why would he go to NY?

do you know how many things have to happen for Amare to leave?

He would have to HATE DC and the Wizards....which he has already said he doesn't and would love to play for us and could be the last piece to the puzzle.

NY has to become good again......and that means they have to get Lebron or Wade to pair with Amare. and NY has to choose Amare over Bosh, which I'm not sure they'd do. on top of that, two of those players have to agree to play in NY.

I doubt it happens.

[WizarDynasty]

Bayless "the alligator" is another offensive undersized role player "shooting guard" that comes off the bench. He is going to be a below average defender that can't challenge shots on the perimeter. Significant assets should be given up to acquire him.

[nate33]

Honestly, I would still take T-Mac if he's healthy. The big question of course is his health.

We wouldn't be bringing him into be a star player, probably more like a third option. I like what he brings to the table as far as playmaking goes and I don't think he's a bad defender either.


Arenas
T-mac
Butler
Jamison
Haywood


Still one of the best starting line-ups in the leauge if Mac is healthy.

TMac isn't healthy. Last I heard, he'll be out until February.

[WizarDynasty]

Why is AJ and Caron untouchable?

They both should be on the market.

If the wiretap is right, he should have taken the deal for Amare with Caron and the 5 going to the Suns. After that, we could have looked for a SF while using AJ as bait. Or at the least, traded AJ for a salary dump like Ben Wallace and started DM.

And have Amare walk for New York next off-season? No thanks. We're not close enough to play "Rent-a-Player" for Caron and #5.

Now if Amare agreed to resign.... then yes, make it happen!

Why would he go to NY?

do you know how many things have to happen for Amare to leave?

He would have to HATE DC and the Wizards....which he has already said he doesn't and would love to play for us and could be the last piece to the puzzle.

NY has to become good again......and that means they have to get Lebron or Wade to pair with Amare. and NY has to choose Amare over Bosh, which I'm not sure they'd do. on top of that, two of those players have to agree to play in NY.

I doubt it happens.

One person...D'Antonio, the man he trusts.

[McGeeNArenas]

The chances he goes are slim at best, D'Antonio or not. People make too much about these things.

I remember when the Lakers sucked and there was talk of Kobe going to Memphis because of Jerry West.

Things like this almost never happen. One good year, round two or higher, and Amare reups.

[yungal07]

From a pure on-court standpoint, isn't the Houston offer also somewhat intriguing? I mean, to get T-Mac and Landry for basically a bucket of spit and the #5? Or is T-Mac really done?

I am not sure what T-Mac is earning in salary, but if you were choosing up sides, wouldn't T-Mac still be a top choice?

TMac is a bucket of spit at this point. The guy has gellatin skeleton and a Styrofoam spine...

[WizarDynasty]

Ok

The chances he goes are slim at best, D'Antonio or not. People make too much about these things.

I remember when the Lakers sucked and there was talk of Kobe going to Memphis because of Jerry West.

Things like this almost never happen. One good year, round two or higher, and Amare reups.

Maybe, but Memphis history compared to Laker's history. No way. Amare has no coaching ties in Washington. His former Boss that he thrived into all nba FIRST TEAM player, runs the actual plays that will affect him for years in NY. He is taking a risk signing here unless he is getting paid max money before he gets here. And who knows if Amare decides to shut it down wants his pockets are filled if both of his knees are chronically inflamed? Phoenix basically signed Amare after they knew he needed surgery because they didn't want to lose him for nothing. His chances of duplicating success in NY from his Phoenix days play are alot higher than him duplicating his Phoenix days play in DC because of D'Antonio style of proven play for him and his advisors are going to tell him this.

[Optms]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AorVRMl1lFq8YTLaHgev3_q8vLYF?slug=ys-mockdraft062309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I read an interesting little mock draft from Yahoo that grabbed my eye. It reads Washington landing Ricky Rubio. I'm aware the chances of him passing by the kings probably isn't very likely, but it's far more likely then it was three weeks ago. What are the realistic chances Washington lands Rubio?

[MJG]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AorVRMl1lFq8YTLaHgev3_q8vLYF?slug=ys-mockdraft062309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I read an interesting little mock draft from Yahoo that grabbed my eye. It reads Washington landing Ricky Rubio. I'm aware the chances of him passing by the kings probably isn't very likely, but it's far more likely then it was three weeks ago. What are the realistic chances Washington lands Rubio?

It would be a surprise, but not shocking, if that makes any sense. Kind of like someone taking a 30 footer to beat the buzzer - you don't really expect it to go in, but if it does, you aren't going to sit there in disbelief.

[Soup's Uncle]

If we pick him, won;t he stay over in Europe though cus Fegan is a b****

[dobrojim]

Standing reach and lateral movement should be part of player evaluation. WizarDynasty has turned it into a fetish. Which is one reason why he's the first person to spend more than 30 minutes on my ignore list since I started posting here in 2001.

That was the hardest 29 minutes of my life.

[WizarDynasty]

Standing reach and lateral movement should be part of player evaluation. WizarDynasty has turned it into a fetish. Which is one reason why he's the first person to spend more than 30 minutes on my ignore list since I started posting here in 2001.

That was the hardest 29 minutes of my life.

Apparently you are fan since you spent 30 seconds to remove me from your ignore list lol.

[Ji]

Are we sure we want Rubio over Harden,Curry or Evans?

[DCZards]

Are we sure we want Rubio over Harden,Curry or Evans?

Rubio is too much of an unknown for me. There's a lot of hype surrounding him but all I've seen are highlights. And, if he slips to 5, that would mean that at least three other GMs have their doubts about a guy that a few weeks ago was the consensus #2 pick.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Are we sure we want Rubio over Harden,Curry or Evans?

Rubio is too much of an unknown for me. There's a lot of hype surrounding him but all I've seen are highlights. And, if he slips to 5, that would mean that at least three other GMs have their doubts about a guy that a few weeks ago was the consensus #2 pick.

+1

If La Bomba won MVP in the same league as Rubio, I'm not buying the hype.

What he seems to me to be is a prima donna, a showman who makes flashy passes, and a guy who does play passing lanes hard in going for steals.

I only want Rubio for trade purposes. Otherwise, Harden and Evans both make more sense to me.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

You guys know I think Blair's the most underrated player in this draft.

However, the past few days two guys have been on my mind as bigtime sleepers: James Johnson and Terrance Williams.

Johnson's going to be a bigtime player and he does remind me of Butler.

Williams is the player I view as perhaps the best fit at SG right now for the Wizards. He's strong and can rebound the ball. He's a much better playmaker than Evans at this point.

Other players that I think are greatly underrated are Jodie Meeks and Jack McClinton.

Meeks seems like a bigger Ben Gordon to me. He's going to score a ton.

[Dat2U]

Are we sure we want Rubio over Harden,Curry or Evans?

Rubio is too much of an unknown for me. There's a lot of hype surrounding him but all I've seen are highlights. And, if he slips to 5, that would mean that at least three other GMs have their doubts about a guy that a few weeks ago was the consensus #2 pick.

DCZards, this is an argument you use alot. 'Well if said GM(s) feels such and such about a player/team then there must be some fact to it'. Well as we've seen alot of GM's are idiots. Do you honestly trust anything the Memphis or Sacramento GM's have done recently? These guys have made bad decision after bad decision. Memphis GM Chris Wallace is one of the worst in the business. He's the same guy that traded Joe Johnson for Rodney Rogers & Tony Delk while in Boston.

Just because a guy was hired to amke key personnel decisions for a team doesn't mean he's qualified or good enough to do the job. Just as in real life, you have bosses who are totally incompetent.

In regards to Rubio, the youtube videos are one thing but the stats from the ACB league are another. In limited minutes he put up very nice numbers. And this is against better competition than any NCAA player would face. Yet at 18 yrs of age, he was leading his team to the playoffs and was the defensive player of the year! I'd agree he's not quite ready for prime time but how many 18 year olds are? He's not ready to lead grown men? Well, duh!

People complain about his frame but what kid other than LeBron has fully matured body at 18? Or what kid has fully developed his skillset by then? It's like folks criticize him like he's a finished product. Even with all his faults he accomplished so much at such a young age. I think people are magnifying his flaws and undermining his positives. Since LeBron, there hasn't been a prospect with his PG skills and b-ball IQ in the league. If he's there at #5, we have to grab him, even if he's not the best fit. The talent is too much to pass up and I'm sure EG feels the same. I think they would love to see him fall to #5.

[mhd]

I think there is no way Rubio is there at 5. If he's there, the Wiz should take him for sure.

[Dat2U]

Are we sure we want Rubio over Harden,Curry or Evans?

Rubio is too much of an unknown for me. There's a lot of hype surrounding him but all I've seen are highlights. And, if he slips to 5, that would mean that at least three other GMs have their doubts about a guy that a few weeks ago was the consensus #2 pick.

+1

If La Bomba won MVP in the same league as Rubio, I'm not buying the hype.

What he seems to me to be is a prima donna, a showman who makes flashy passes, and a guy who does play passing lanes hard in going for steals.

I only want Rubio for trade purposes. Otherwise, Harden and Evans both make more sense to me.

If La Bomba played in the NCAA's before going pro and put up those type of numbers in his MVP season, guess what? You'd be touting him as a stud. Navarro had a dissapointing run in America b/c he played for a horrible Memphis franchise. He actually had some decent moments here and showed he was an NBA caliber player, albeit one without a real position. On a legit playoff team he probably would have been looked at in a much different light.

Same with Rubio's numbers, imagine if Rubio played against NCAA competition and dominated. I wonder would you feel the same about him as you do now?