Wiz trade 5th pick to Minnesota

[closg00]

You have to assume we have a big coming to us cause we just dumped 2 PF's & a 7 footer, we officially have ZERO muscle. Waiting to see what happens next.

[Ji]

we basically traded Jordan Hill for Miller and Foye.

[Optms]

randy ave 16 a game mike miller 9 a game not 2 bad of a deal

No. Roye is a good scorer who's FG% will potentially improve with the scorers that Washington already has. If Washington makes no other trades here, I love him coming off the bench and making appearances at the 2 with Gilbert in the same back court.

The team might not be great defensively with the players it has now, but I strongly believe Washington already is a better team with Flip running the show. They can make long strides. They'll automatically be a better defensive team because of it regardless of who we bring in to upgrade on the court I think.

[Ji]

i bet butler and Young get us Amare now

[DaRealHibachi]

well grunfeld did address our pourous perimeter defense at the pg spot, but before his knee injury he had a pretty good rep. If it turns out that Foye Every point guard in the league was able to get in the lane an put our bigs in foul trouble over the years.
Miller is automatically our best three point shooter. No more relying on Jamison to Hoist up threes and miller is longer than Butler.
Our main issue now I think is getting a big who can score in the efficiently in the post at will, block shots, play with a high motor, and become an above average defensive rebounder. All in one player.

FINALLY me and this dude can agree on something...

[80sballboy]

Well, it takes away the suspense of Thursday night unless you wait until 10pmish for the 2nd round pick. I don't think we'll be Bill Walkering that selection.

As for the trade, I'm only blown away that this was the best deal we could get. I'd rather get another selection here and Mike Miller, though not a throw-in, gives us probably the worst defensive backcourt in the league. But he has the size to play the 3 or start at the 2. What we'll do with DeBrick, Nick, DMac is anybody's guess. I think Foye can share the point with Gil or play some 2.

At least we got rid of the dead weight though D-Song did play well last year. We'll be much more athletic without him assuming Blatche and Javale find the weight room. Give me the kid from Arizona State, Pendergraph or Summers. I'd suspect Ernie would take a player and stash him overseas.

[closg00]

Gaping hole in the middle, I hope this doesn't signal a move to be strictly a jump-shooting team.

[Optms]

i bet butler and Young get us Amare now

Do you really think EG Is targeting Stoudemire now? Anyone else see that deal coming?

I don't think Kerr would do that deal, but I'm willing to throw in Blatch in there along with Young and Butler to get Amare.

[MF23]

Good move by the FO. Randy Foye is a future allstar and is the best defender on the Wizards now. I don't see MM starting over Foye at the 2. MM ain't a bad player but I'd like to see him used to receive a big man. There are to many wing players now, something has to happen.

Anyway I'm fine with getting Foye although I would have tried to draft Curry and just figure out how to use him with the Wizards.

[Optms]

I'd prefer Foye over Curry. Just for the simple reason that he's a better defender with a bigger body and it's safe to say with him, you know what you are going to get.

[WizarDynasty]

EG would be a fool to trade blatche or young.

[Ced67]

I had a feeling that was about all we where going to get for that pick, although I like the Foye pickup. With him being an undersized 2 who's a scorer Im interested in seeing how he works with Arenas. I like the Miller pickup also, offensively, we finally have a legit 3 pt shooter who should fit well beside Arenas offensively, but I have to agree with barely that we are going to suck defensively. Get ready for more high scoring and higher scoring by the opposition, and get ready for Ernie to have to blow this thing up next summer when it doesn't work.

I really would have liked to see us pickup Harden if he where there but with Foye being a young prospect who has showed he can score Im not that mad. The only thing that worries me is that Foye is going in to the last guaranteed year of his contract and over the next 2 offseasons we could lose both he and Miller and have nothing to show for the #5 pick. Not to mention the fact that we will still probably have Jamison's big ass contract because I really don't see anyone wanting him until he's expiring.

[deanwoof]

Can you trade players so quickly after being traded? I thought you had to wait until December or something.

I believe the rule is that you must trade/flip the player within 48 hours of first trade or wait 2 weeks. i also think you can't package said player with anyone else, but you can take back multiple if need be. examples: today bucks flipping oberto to detroit after arriving from san antonio, also rasheed wallace trade when he went from portland to atlanta, he was packaged. but when atlanta moved him, he was moved by himself to detroit.

[quote=MF23]Good move by the FO. Randy Foye is a future allstar and is the best defender on the Wizards now. [/quote]

Foye will never be an all-star, not playing alongside Arenas, and even if he started on a crappy team where he got all the shots he wanted. oh wait, that part already happened. and saying he's the best defender on the wizards isn't saying much.

i like this trade for the wiz. it also tells me that by bringing in two more guards, arenas may not be 100% ready.

[Ji]

Rotoworld loves the trade for................


Washington

The Wolves are reportedly close to sending Randy Foye and Mike Miller to the Wizards, in exchange for the #5 pick in Thursday's draft, Oleksiy Pecherov, Etan Thomas and Darius Songaila.
Assuming this deal is finalized on Wednesday, the Wizards instantly become a credible playoff team in the East. They also manage to shed three bad contracts without taking any back -- Miller's deal ends after 2009-2010 and Foye becomes a restricted free agent. The Wolves are expected to keep both the #5 pick and their own #6 pick, without looking to move up in the draft.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

You have to assume we have a big coming to us cause we just dumped 2 PF's & a 7 footer, we officially have ZERO muscle. Waiting to see what happens next.

Pecherov is a 7 fter that the Wizards used a 1st round pick for. Pecherov's PER of near 15 was that of an average NBA player. He's 23 years old and a high post C who rebounds MUCH BETTER than Bargnani, and he shoots threes about as well as Bargnani IMO. Pecherov has a Mehmet Okur-like ceiling. Watch him blow up at C next to Love or Jefferson.

The fifth pick could have nabbed either Harden (a guy who fits what this team needs even better than Young), Evans ( a potentiall all star), Curry (better NCAA stats than Bibby or Devin Harris, the last #5 the Wizards traded away), or possibly Thabeet or Rubio (who each would have fetched a ton in trade).

My feeling is this was a myopic move that BETTER pay huge dividends this season.

On the plus side: Miller shoots threes and rebounds at SG. I like him way better than bringing back Hughes. He had a down year last season, but I suspect if Flip liked Wally he'll love Mike Miller. I've liked Miller since he took Florida to the Final Four IIRC many years back. Former Rookie of the Year. Too unselfish for my tastes. Not a SG defensively IMO, but should be a good player everywhere else.

Foye is a player I thought would be great when he was drafted. Very determined at Villanova. Took that team to the Final Four. Foye's a combo guard, like Gil. I'm not sure about how he'll fit. He does hit the deep ball, though.

I like the minutes being cleared at PF. Would have much rather seen DeShawn go, however. Terrible break for Darius. He won't play at all in Minny. Jefferson, Love, Smith, Gomes, and Brewer are all ahead of him. As will be Pecherov.

I give this trade a 4 out of 10, because I think Pecherov and whoever goes at 5 will become good players.

[barelyawake]

Oh great, well if reporters who have no idea about our team like it, it must be good -- considering their goal for us is "making" the playoffs.

Per DraftExpress on the defense of this defensive guru (Foye) we traded for:
Defense: An average defender at best, despite his superior size and strength at the point guard position. Not particularly intense or fundamentally sound. Has a laid back demeanor that serves him well offensively, but makes him look lackadaisical on the other end. Lateral quickness appears to be average when attempting to stay in front of very athletic slashing guards, uses his hands too much and often gets caught flat-footed on the perimeter. Struggles in particular on the pick and roll, showing just awareness and not being physical enough trying to fight through screens. Gets posted up when attempting to defend shooting guards in a small backcourt, and often lets players have his way with him down there.

[Zerocious]

foye is a better perimeter shooter than miller, at least last year he was. 1.6 threes vs 1.2 threee for mills. even though miller will start over foye, it should be other way around. i hope miller can get ot his game of 2 years ago.
if debrick gets healthy he can be back to his defense and get us help there.

[no D in Hibachi]

Don't kill me guys, but I'm going to miss Darius Songaila. He was a great back up big. He made great cuts, passes, was a dead eye shooter off the pick and roll out to 20 ft, and when he was guarding PF's he played good post defense. Probably the best post defender last year for the Wiz. This must mean the FO has high hopes for Blatche. He's going to get 30 minutes a game now as the primary PF and C back up. I hope EG has a second trade in the making to ride ourselves of DStevenson. He didn't have a role on this team before the trade, he might as well not even show up to TC this season.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

PS Now if Oleksiy turns out to be a stiff, and the #5 player takes 2-3 years to be good then I will do a 180 and say this was a GOOD TRADE.

[yungal07]

Don't kill me guys, but I'm going to miss Darius Songaila. He was a great back up big. He made great cuts, passes, was a dead eye shooter off the pick and roll out to 20 ft, and when he was guarding PF's he played good post defense. Probably the best post defender last year for the Wiz. This must mean the FO has high hopes for Blatche. He's going to get 30 minutes a game now as the primary PF and C back up. I hope EG has a second trade in the making to ride ourselves of DStevenson. He didn't have a role on this team before the trade, he might as well not even show up to TC this season.

I agree. Loved DSong. I thought he was a much more reliable, consistent player than Blatche. The second unit is going to miss him big time.