Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Krizko Zero wrote:Our retread GM strikes again. Man, and I thought the Jamison deal was bad, this one is the worst of his tenure.
#5 pick is better than Mike Miller & Randy Foye COMBINED right now, not even mentioning the productive backup we gave up and the prospect 7 FT'er.
Stephen Curry would have put up 20 ppg on the Wolves last season with better FG%. James Harden couldn't put up the #'s Foye did? Both are legit NBA players, not NBA scrubs like Miller & Foye.
This team is going nowhere even faster than before. :-\
KZ, if Ernie and Flip don't get this team to 45 wins and at least a competitive first round playoffs I'm thinking it really goes down hill fast.
Everybody else seems so sure that Pecherov is space trash but I'm thinking the minute a new coach comes in the trade the kid. Why the hell burn a 1st round pick on Pecherov, a player drafted before Rondo, Lowry, Farmar, Millsap, and Powe?
Here's where I can't let Grunfeld off the hook: You obviously now are higher on Blatche, but why draft Pecherov at 18 right after drafting a project player the year before? Then, he totally stunts the development of Pecherov drafting McGee.
The time to trade Oleksiy was last year at this time, but I've said that before. Should have tried to get Kyle Lowry THEN. This time last season.
Re: Pecherov and McGee. This is what all the experts and all the NBA insiders advocate -- drafting the best player available.
I think team need should be considered, too, but nobody else seems to. They all say: you take the guy with -- jesus, how I hate this word -- upside.
Honestly, I think it's a little ridiculous to look at this trade and bitch and moan about our lack of vision. If you wanted to do that, the time was when we resigned Jamison.
You need pieces to compete, and you also need pieces to deal. That's one key point I want to make.
This is the other: unless you have a superstar, the best chance of competing for a title is to follow the Detroit route. Assemble a lot of quality pieces, and hope that you can get lucky and swing a deal for the player who can put you over the top (a la Sheed). Or -- you follow the Boston route, of mortgaging the future for the one key player and then surrounding him with role players who are looking to win and can be got cheap.
I think this deal gets us closer to that. We're a deeper team.
Miller is a better player than he showed last year. Why does everybody seem to be forgetting that? For two years, all we read about on here was how we needed to bring in Mike Miller.
And Foye is a shrewd pick up, the kind of trade of a young, undervalued player that you'd like your GM to make. Minnesota is in flux, with a new GM, and Foye -- perhaps not quite appreciated, on the cusp of breaking out -- was ripe for the plucking. As a second option, he performed extremely well at times, but he's out of his element, at this point, in such a featured role. As a fourth option, he ought to shine.
In many ways, getting Foye is like getting a young Arenas or a young Butler -- an improving player who still flies under the radar of the average fan (his stats have gotten better every year -- he made the leap to becoming a very solid player in his third year, which is what you want to see.)
Comparisons to Nick Young are inevitable, perhaps, but Foye seems to work harder, and he's certainly a more rounded ball player. And Foye's game has shown growth.
