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It would be ideal to have Al start at PF and get a nice Center. I think BJ Mullens would fit that spot on our team nicely. Have love come off the bench and shift Al to Center when Mullens isn't playing. That would allow us to get a PG and SG with 5 and 6. We can trade 18 and one second round pics for the 11th or 12th pick to get Mullens. I do like rubio but if we don't get a chance to get #2 i think this is what we should do.
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Mullens has looked terrible in workouts apparently, and probably could be ad at #18 without trading up. Definitely won't go top 12.
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Anyone else thinking Madsen/Cardinal+ 18 or 28 for a vet in the backcourt?
SMAC-K wrote:Mayo>>>>Love and that 5th pick
OJ Mayo is one of the best defenders in the league, hes a two way player and hes a great passer and playmaker.
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Esohny wrote:Anyone else thinking Madsen/Cardinal+ 18 or 28 for a vet in the backcourt?
I don't think anyone would want Madsen and we should not give up any first round pics unless we are moving up.
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Esohny wrote:Anyone else thinking Madsen/Cardinal+ 18 or 28 for a vet in the backcourt?
Who exactly do you have in mind?
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If there's no way to move up to the back of the lottery for Earl Clark, there's still the possibility of a sign and trade for Marvin Williams.
SMAC-K wrote:Mayo>>>>Love and that 5th pick
OJ Mayo is one of the best defenders in the league, hes a two way player and hes a great passer and playmaker.
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Cyborg21 wrote:If we don't trade for 2, I would love a backcourt of Harden and Evans. But I think we will trade Love and 18 for the number 2 and Rubio....
I'm thinking Love +18 to Memphis but they take Thabeet instead.
Thabeet
Jefferson
Gomes/Brewer
Harden
Evans
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C.lupus wrote:Cyborg21 wrote:If we don't trade for 2, I would love a backcourt of Harden and Evans. But I think we will trade Love and 18 for the number 2 and Rubio....
I'm thinking Love +18 to Memphis but they take Thabeet instead.
Thabeet
Jefferson
Gomes/Brewer
Harden
Evans
Unlike Rubio, I've watched Thabeet play. Love is definitely a better player than Thabeet. It could conceivably work out because Thabeet is the better fit, but I don't like it.
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Twas the day before christmas and I was watching the tube ... then next thing you know, we were drafting the Rube ...
It's real hard to know how any of Memphis, OKC, or SAC will approach the draft. It's real hard to know if they have a specific player in mind?
LAC ... Griffin
Memphis ... Clearly want a PF and likely trade down for Hill (vs. bigger $$ trade).
OKC ... Harden or Thabeet will both work and they will deal accordingly.
Memphis ... Do they view Evans as a PG? If not then Rubio/Flynn - they take Rubio.
The Wolves traded both SG's ... We may now go Harden and Best PG Available.
It's real hard to know how any of Memphis, OKC, or SAC will approach the draft. It's real hard to know if they have a specific player in mind?
LAC ... Griffin
Memphis ... Clearly want a PF and likely trade down for Hill (vs. bigger $$ trade).
OKC ... Harden or Thabeet will both work and they will deal accordingly.
Memphis ... Do they view Evans as a PG? If not then Rubio/Flynn - they take Rubio.
The Wolves traded both SG's ... We may now go Harden and Best PG Available.
Flip response to Love wanting out, "He has no reason to be upset, you're either a part of the problem or a part of the solution"
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Good to see this thread, I posted something similar at the end of the other thread...
I am of the opinion that we stay where we are at with #5 and #6 and we can try and move up with #18. I do not want to trade Love we are way to early in the rebuilding to trade away one of our best young players. We can always trade him next year for a Top-10 pick, in a presumably better draft if he turns out not to fit.
I would really like to move into the #10-15 range. We could potentially buy a 20's pick to package with our #28 and #18 to move up. I like the idea of stashing international players, but there doesnt seem to be any studs like a Pekovic worth protecting our #28 for.
Not sure if anyone has seen the new draft express mock draft. But i like it alot, minus the #18 pick(sam young) They have us taking Rubio and Evans. And then they have us taking Budinger at #28.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2009/
Given that mock, moving up to the 10-15 range...could get us Henderson, Derozan, T. Williams all of which adds size to our backcourt.
I would love a Rubio/Evans/Williams draft.
I am of the opinion that we stay where we are at with #5 and #6 and we can try and move up with #18. I do not want to trade Love we are way to early in the rebuilding to trade away one of our best young players. We can always trade him next year for a Top-10 pick, in a presumably better draft if he turns out not to fit.
I would really like to move into the #10-15 range. We could potentially buy a 20's pick to package with our #28 and #18 to move up. I like the idea of stashing international players, but there doesnt seem to be any studs like a Pekovic worth protecting our #28 for.
Not sure if anyone has seen the new draft express mock draft. But i like it alot, minus the #18 pick(sam young) They have us taking Rubio and Evans. And then they have us taking Budinger at #28.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2009/
Given that mock, moving up to the 10-15 range...could get us Henderson, Derozan, T. Williams all of which adds size to our backcourt.
I would love a Rubio/Evans/Williams draft.
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jade_hippo wrote:i think this all means we'll make another deal. with all the bodies we have now, and the prospect of more coming in, someone has to go. I'm sure there will be a cut or a trade again soon. Madsen/Cardinal are probably the first to go along with one of the later picks. and i'm sure at least one of the picks will be for a Euro to stash away a year or two.
shrink said something about how Stevenson would've made more sense on both sides. What if the plan is to fip him in the next deal for, say, Jaric or Buckner or something? We wouldn't add another longer contract, just one of equal length. And Memphis needs a PF, we don't.
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john2jer wrote:My dream is that Memphis takes Rubio, and Thabeet convinced the Thunder to take him. Then it's just a matter if the Kings liked Curry, Jennings, or Flynn enough to leave us with a Harden and Evans backcourt.
I like Evans a lot more than I like Harden, but I don't think a backcourt pairing them works at all. Everywhere I've seen now has Evans squarely slotted as a ball-dominant 2, and not a point. Aside from the fact that both may be gone before 5, I'd think we'd want one or the other, not both.
If we want to fill a backcourt, we'll need one from each of these 2 groups, IMO.
Evans, Harden, Henderson, Williams, DeRozan
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Rubio, Curry, Flynn, Lawson, Holiday, Maynor, Jennings, Teague
That's the order I'd take them, incidentally.
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Just listened to Bill Simmons and Chad Ford talk about the draft on the Sports Guy's podcast, and Ford called Evans (and forgive the paraphrasing) "not particularly atheletic, plays below the rim, terrible lateral movement, not a good shooter". Other than the shooting, that's the opposite of what I would have expected.
He also was sour on Ty Lawson, and very high on Eric Maynor (Hollinger's basically the opposite of that...)
Just goes to show that this draft is a bit of a crap shoot.
He also was sour on Ty Lawson, and very high on Eric Maynor (Hollinger's basically the opposite of that...)
Just goes to show that this draft is a bit of a crap shoot.
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I'm not high on either Lawson or Maynor. Evans is quick, strong, has good handles, and determination to get to the rim. Harden does a good job of playing off the ball, but he can also play lead guard from the 2. I think they'd pair just fine together. Especially since it improves our height, length, and perimeter defense.
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draft express has us taking Rubio and Evans. hmm, that sounds pretty nice to me if evans can play off the ball a little bit. the problem is that we have no real shooters on the team now. would a curry/evans combo make more sense. there's no way we don't take Rubio if he's there though.
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