Chris Brussard says Rondo is on the market and hard to coach

GonzoLays · Post #1 » by **GonzoLays** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:53 pm

"Chris Broussard: Rajon Rondo is definitely on the market. I'm told he's very hard for Doc Rivers to coach, and that while Rondo gets along OK with his teammates, he's far from a great teammate. The fear in Boston is that if Rondo's this difficult to handle on a rookie-scale salary, he's going to be a monster once he gets big money."

He said this minutes ago

Rocky5000 · Post #2 » by **Rocky5000** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:00 pm

I think this stuff is going overboard. We won a title with him, and he appears to run the plays that Doc wants run. A little eccentric, yes, but he doesn't seem 'uncoachable.'

I think other teams may be trying to drive down Rondo's value to pump up the value of their trade offers.

I remember reading that Sam Cassell was really helpful in getting through to Rondo, this year and last. Is there something exceptional about Sam's coaching skills? I doubt it.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #3 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:10 pm

First of all, Broussard is a **** moron (always has been)...I'm surprised he's finished sniffing Kobe and LeBron's jocks long enough to come up for air and post something...second, all he did was cobble that together from the various bits Danny and Doc have said over the last couple of months...great "reporting!"

the whiz · Post #4 » by **the whiz** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:12 pm

I'm thinking all this is getting out so Danny can sign Rondo to a reasonable contract next year, if he really wanted to trade him then all this would be kept in-house IMO.

pac213up · Post #5 » by **pac213up** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:33 pm

GonzoLays wrote:"Chris Broussard: Rajon Rondo is definitely on the market. I'm told he's very hard for Doc Rivers to coach, and that while Rondo gets along OK with his teammates, he's far from a great teammate. The fear in Boston is that if Rondo's this difficult to handle on a rookie-scale salary, he's going to be a monster once he gets big money."

He said this minutes ago

Didn't they say the same thing about Randy Moss and Corey Dillan.

Frank Lucas · Post #6 » by **Frank Lucas** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:34 pm

This whole Rondo is hard to deal with mess is just junk. I don't know who is putting this stuff out there but it junk. Here is what I think happen. The Cs tried to trade Rondo over the last month but they haven't gotten a trade they like or have been laugh out the building with their offers to other teams. So now that they have to deal with Rondo contract situation it is coming out that he is hard to deal with at times and that he mights like him but they don't love him....Man during the season all you hear was Paul and KG saying how they love the kid and he is the glue. The Celtics love Rondo but like Danny said anyone can be hand and it is Danny job to get the max out of each players value. Before all this stuff came out Rondo value was high and still is from what I understand. But I feel the Cs after trying to trade are now trying to drive down his contract to a number that works for them. If they were really going to trade him this would not have came out. Trust me guy the Cs really do love his game. I know his teammate love playing with him

hickfromfrenchlick · Post #7 » by **hickfromfrenchlick** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:38 pm

This time of the year is when you should discount 99% of what you read. Disinformation spreads like wildfire, as teams' motivations are all over the place.

I'm a UConn fan. I remember that team executives were spreading the rumor that Caron Butler had bullet fragments floating around his knee in order to send his stock down. Total BS.

Everyone is so eager to hear rumors right now and "journalists" are happy to offer them up. Look at the Rondo/Gay trade rumor. Someone on RealGM makes it up out of thin air. It makes in into the Globe. And then every NBA blog on the internet is repeating it.

cloverleaf · Post #8 » by **cloverleaf** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:01 pm

pac213up wrote:
GonzoLays wrote:"Chris Broussard: Rajon Rondo is definitely on the market. I'm told he's very hard for Doc Rivers to coach, and that while Rondo gets along OK with his teammates, he's far from a great teammate. The fear in Boston is that if Rondo's this difficult to handle on a rookie-scale salary, he's going to be a monster once he gets big money."

He said this minutes ago

Didn't they say the same thing about Randy Moss and Corey Dillan.

Then let's hope it doesn't take a team change to get through to him.

s1ickd · Post #9 » by **s1ickd** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:23 pm

While I'm not opposed to trading Rondo, this is the same type of stuff people said about Jason Kidd during his early years with Dallas.

spf211 · Post #10 » by **spf211** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:34 pm

And then Kidd was traded to Phoenix, New Jersey and back to Dallas.

Post #11 » by **UGA Hayes** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:41 pm

Just for the record, whether the coachability rumors are true or not, if its between Rondo and Doc, I'm dumping Rivers.

^Kidd also tended to do pretty well with those team. Just as a reminder, after Scott got canned, Frank led the same team to the final. Not to chanel Gonzolays, cause I think coaching has some impact but for a team that isn't dysfunctional its nothing near as important as having talent.

return2glory · Post #12 » by **return2glory** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:31 pm

Another stupid comment by a reporter. If Doc feels Rondo is hard to coach, he wouldn't have been playing him 40 minutes a game in the playoffs. If he didn't like what Rondo was doing, he would have played Marbury in the post season. It's not like we were playing for a title without KG and Powe.

pac213up · Post #13 » by **pac213up** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:45 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
pac213up wrote:
GonzoLays wrote:"Chris Broussard: Rajon Rondo is definitely on the market. I'm told he's very hard for Doc Rivers to coach, and that while Rondo gets along OK with his teammates, he's far from a great teammate. The fear in Boston is that if Rondo's this difficult to handle on a rookie-scale salary, he's going to be a monster once he gets big money."

He said this minutes ago

Didn't they say the same thing about Randy Moss and Corey Dillan.

Then let's hope it doesn't take a team change to get through to him.

I think you mean - let's hope it does not take a change of teams to change how some people perceive him. This may (and I say may because none of us really know) be another case of the power of exaggeration as was the case with Moss and Dillan. If Doc Rivers wants to truely be a great coach in today's NBA he better learn how to handle players with big ego's and that can be difficult to coach, the NBA is filled with those guys - ask Phil Jackson!

jfs1000d · Post #14 » by **jfs1000d** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:41 pm

Ya'll are just a bunch of fanboi's. I will refund your rondo fan club submissions.

Reporters aren't making this up.It's coming from either players, or the Celtics management themselves.

Rondo is tough to handle, was impossible at kentucky, and Doc, the nicest guy in the nba, said he is "un-coachable."

I saw Rondo and Ray getting in an argument earlier this year. Rondo shows up late to games? That WEEI interview earlier this month was ridiculous. He likes to show up as late as possible so he doesn't talk to teammates?

This kid is high maintenance. He is being shopped.Get over it. At his current salary you put up with it. If he gets $10 mil and costs you flexibility? No way.

Honest to god. Rondo acts like if he wasn't the Celtics PG,and we had a league average replacement, that we wouldn't have won the title. Celtics > Rondo.

I go with Doc. He turned Pierce from a greedy player into a HOF. Perhaps Rondo should listen to Doc, who was a better PG than Rondo anyway.

stiles21 · Post #15 » by **stiles21** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:51 pm

All the Rondo rumors seem a little far fetched. I wouldn't put it past Danny to throw out some Rondo trades thats have no chance of going through just to let him know he's not untouchable. You know, bring him down a notch.

kingjaffyjoe · Post #16 » by **kingjaffyjoe** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:08 pm

im just wondering how people posting on here know if rondo has an attitude and is a tough player to coach or not. When it comes down to it, you people are fans. Everyone on the c's team could hate rondo and you wouldnt know it. Hes being talked about for a reason.

Joekickass2008 · Post #17 » by **Joekickass2008** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:13 pm

kingjaffyjoe wrote:im just wondering how people posting on here know if rondo has an attitude and is a tough player to coach or not. When it comes down to it, you people are fans. Everyone on the c's team could hate rondo and you wouldnt know it. Hes being talked about for a reason.

Isnt he just a lil eccentric?

jfs1000d · Post #18 » by **jfs1000d** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:17 pm

kingjaffyjoe wrote:im just wondering how people posting on here know if rondo has an attitude and is a tough player to coach or not. When it comes down to it, you people are fans. Everyone on the c's team could hate rondo and you wouldnt know it. Hes being talked about for a reason.

We can only go by reports, what we hear on the blogs, and essentially what we see on the court.

I, for one, didn't know Rondo was a guy who shows up late. That incensed me, because in some playoff games he didn't have energy early and look unprepared. That really bothered me. Is it that hard to be a professional?

Rondo scares me on a longterm deal.

kingjaffyjoe · Post #19 » by **kingjaffyjoe** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:41 pm

jfs1000d wrote:We can only go by reports, what we hear on the blogs, and essentially what we see on the court.

I, for one, didn't know Rondo was a guy who shows up late. That incensed me, because in some playoff games he didn't have energy early and look unprepared. That really bothered me. Is it that hard to be a professional?

Rondo scares me on a longterm deal.

exactly how I feel about rondo.

PPAW4Life · Post #20 » by **PPAW4Life** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:22 am

I think we have to remember that Rondo is still young and immature.

He will grow up and out of whatever brashness or attitude problems he might have. He just needs to be surrounded by more and more positive people....guys who can show him the right way to do things.

I really would like to see someone from C's upper management even Doc himself come out and deny some of this stuff....