Trade idea ---- #5 to OKC

[GQ Hot Dog]

Any trade that is done with Memphis or OKC will most likely not be announced till after both teams draft the players. So basically, it will be done the same way that the Marbury/Allen trade, Roy/Foye, or Love/Mayo trade happened. Make sure both parties got the player the other team wants then do the trade. Today however, Minnesota will be on the phones with most likely both Memphis and OKC and find out what pieces all need to be in place to pull the trigger after the picks have been made.

Otherwise I agree if the trade happened today for those picks OKC or Memphis could get screwed with the guy they are in favor of.

Maybe I'm missing something but I still don't see the logic. In order for any trade with Minny to happen, OKC needs to first take Rubio and then Harden is dangling there for Sacto to take. If they do take him then OKC is stuck with Rubio, who this trade is presuming they don't really want. Then they would be forced to deal with Sacto to get their guy and Minny is no longer involved. So why take the chance, just take Harden straight away and let Sacto have Rubio. Otherwise OKC and Sacto have to go through the struggle of figuring out how to trade their assets equitably which might be just Rubio for Harden but then you wonder why the hell they went through the trouble in the first place.

This would only be viable if Sacto didn't know who OKC really wants, like if OKC actually wanted Evans. Then OKC would take Rubio, Sacto would take Harden, OKC would tell Minny to take Evans with #5, the trade would go down and Sacto would end up trading Harden to whoever wants him bad enough. That just might be Minny who would pick Holiday with #6, for instance, trade him to Sacto and get Harden. This just got really complicated but could work out great for Minny who would get both Rubio and Harden. How great would that be? But who thinks OKC wants Evans over Harden? Not me, and so I think OKC just takes Harden, Sacto takes Rubio and Minny takes Evans/Holiday and Hill/somebody else at #5 and #6. Ouch, that made my head hurt.

[tvwolves7]

Any trade that is done with Memphis or OKC will most likely not be announced till after both teams draft the players. So basically, it will be done the same way that the Marbury/Allen trade, Roy/Foye, or Love/Mayo trade happened. Make sure both parties got the player the other team wants then do the trade. Today however, Minnesota will be on the phones with most likely both Memphis and OKC and find out what pieces all need to be in place to pull the trigger after the picks have been made.

Otherwise I agree if the trade happened today for those picks OKC or Memphis could get screwed with the guy they are in favor of.

Maybe I'm missing something but I still don't see the logic. In order for any trade with Minny to happen, OKC needs to first take Rubio and then Harden is dangling there for Sacto to take. If they do take him then OKC is stuck with Rubio, who this trade is presuming they don't really want. Then they would be forced to deal with Sacto to get their guy and Minny is no longer involved. So why take the chance, just take Harden straight away and let Sacto have Rubio. Otherwise OKC and Sacto have to go through the struggle of figuring out how to trade their assets equitably which might be just Rubio for Harden but then you wonder why the hell they went through the trouble in the first place.

This would only be viable if Sacto didn't know who OKC really wants, like if OKC actually wanted Evans. Then OKC would take Rubio, Sacto would take Harden, OKC would tell Minny to take Evans with #5, the trade would go down and Sacto would end up trading Harden to whoever wants him bad enough. That just might be Minny who would pick Holiday with #6, for instance, trade him to Sacto and get Harden. This just got really complicated but could work out great for Minny who would get both Rubio and Harden. How great would that be? But who thinks OKC wants Evans over Harden? Not me, and so I think OKC just takes Harden, Sacto takes Rubio and Minny takes Evans/Holiday and Hill/somebody else at #5 and #6. Ouch, that made my head hurt.

All these teams are most likely talking to each other and figuring out what they would get for each individual player. So for instance, Memphis takes Rubio but wants Hill (Just a hypothetical). They most likely will have had trade talks with all teams that would want Rubio and were able to take Hill. So on draft night whoever chooses Hill and wants Rubio they have a trade in the works already.

So for OKC if Rubio is available they take him and will have a gauge of who will have their guy Harden. From there they will do a trade. It might not happen but I gurantee there are talks.

That is how the Mayo/Love trade happened. Wolves took the obvious #3 guy at the time and really wanted Love. They then waited to see who picked Love, then worked out a deal from there.

Lastly, I am not saying they will do this, but it has to be out on the table as a possibility. Why not get Harden at #4 or #5 and an additional incentive instead of just drafting him at #3. All sports teams do this and OKC would be stupid to not look into it.

Also, I think Sacto is taking Evans. They will not just take Harden to spite another team, that is ridiculous.

[GQ Hot Dog]

Also, I think Sacto is taking Evans. They will not just take Harden to spite another team, that is ridiculous.

Sacto would take Harden, but not out of spite but for leverage. It's no different then 2006 when you guys took Roy at #6 instead of Foye, who you really wanted, thereby forcing Portland at #7 to take Foye and trade him to you to get Roy instead of just dealing the one time with Boston. Similarly, Sacto is going to take Harden if OKC takes Rubio and that will cut Minny out of the deal. That is what makes this whole trade scenario unlikely. If OKC wants Harden then they would just take him rather than risk having to unnecessarily deal with Sacto.