BOS/GS Trade Idea

[joeyswag]

Boston trades:

Ray Allen
Bill Walker
Giddens or Pruitt
1 or 2 Future 1st Round Picks

To Golden State for:

Monta Ellis
Cory Maggette
Brandon Wright

I think its a fair trade. Golden State can play out Ray Allens last year and then let him go in free agency and will put them about 10 mil under the cap when he leaves. Plus they still keep their 7th pick and can draft a guard like they wanted and not have to worry about Ellis demanding a trade. Golden State also just received Acie Law and Speedy Claxton in a trade today.

For the Celts, it gives us a young star guard to replace Allen in Monta Ellis, we get Maggette as a solid backup SF for Pierce that we desperately needed that can also play the SG spot and Brandon Wright. Most of all, we still keep Rondo and still have the MLE to use on a backup big and backup point guard.

Roster would look like the following:

PG-Rondo, (FA), pruitt

SG-Ellis, House, T.Allen

SF-Pierce,Maggette,Wright

PF-KG, Powe, Scal

C-Perkins, (FA)

[GreenDreamer]

Not a bad idea, but I'm wary of Monta and Corey's health issues. They are getting paid a lot of money, and could be dead money on the books. That being said, this deal certainly would make us deeper, though we would certainly miss Ray's significant floor stretching effect. None of these guys is a particularly good perimeter shooter. I would pass on this one.

[MUhoops]

I watch the Warriors a lot. It's an interesting effort to make a change for the Celtics, but I'm not sure it makes sense from the Warriors point of view.

The Warriors don't have a PG and are trying to make Monta Ellis into one.
Nelson has said that he'll play Stephen Jackson at SG this year, and they'd like to find minutes for Anthony Randolph even though they have a glut of wing players.

In this trade, the Warriors take back a SG, a backup SF, and 1st round picks for the future. And they give up on Monta Ellis after finally putting his injury behind them. (They might try to trade him in the future, but I don't think it would be right now.)

The other question you'd have to ask yourself is if you want to commit the Celtics to paying Maggette (8-10 per season) for another 4 years, which longer than Pierce and KG.

All that being said, not trying to say that trying to work something out with the Warriors wouldn't be interesting. Just trying to add some points to the conversation. I like the idea of trying to get a player like B.Wright...

[Rainbow Jumper]

MUhoops has a pretty good assessment from the Warriors perspective. With this trade the Warriors would have to start either CJ Watson, Acie Law or a rookie draftpick as PG.... not gonna happen. Allen doesn't have that great a value, he had a very good season, but he is 34 and nearing the end.... not a good fit for the youngest team in the NBA, by the time the kids reach their peak, Ray's best days will be well behind him. Great trade for the Celtics, but horrible trade for the Warriors. If you want to do a trade with the Warriors it has to involve Rondo or maybe Davis, all the others don't fit with the Warriors roster or organizational direction.

[threrf23]

As much as I'm initially inclined to say GSW laughs at this offer - maybe they don't since it would give them caproom next offseason. Maggette's contract sucks.

But then, Ray Allen is very unselfish, which is like the exact opposite of what the Warriors brass loves, it would seem.

But then, I don't like this so much from our perspective. It gives us talent but do the pieces fit? It would also hurt out ability to make a wave next offseason and/or arguably beyond.

I'd pass too.

[turk3d]

Terrible from the Warriors standpoint. Ellis + Maggette for Allen and Rondo might work (now that Crawford's been traded). Only way the Warriors consider it is if Rondo is going their way. That would be fair. I'm not sure if Ellis would be a good fit for you though but if Ainge's is bent on trading Rondo (and has let the world know) this would be pretty fair return imo.

[floppymoose]

As a GS fan, it's a non-starter. Not sending out Ellis just to ditch Maggette. Maggs isn't even a real problem now that he's a 6th man (other than being overpaid).

[Captain_Caveman]

No way on Maggette. Ws signed him to a terrible deal and now he has concussion issues.

[kmgarnett21]

No way. Why mess with something like what we already have? We'd basically have to start over. I don't think Rondo and Monta would fit well together.

[Andrew McCeltic]

There are no trades that make basketball sense for both teams.. trade's unlikely unless GS is financially pressed - the contracts/ages/talents involved don't match up well..

[Al-Haqq]

NO MONTA!!!!!!!!!!!!


Please.


too many times I see this proposal.

[sully00]

Maggette has concussion issues don't you have to have a brain. No way he is coming to Boston.

Love Monta and would certainly like to bring him to Boston but have almost no interest in trading Ray Allen.

We can send you a bunch expiring crappy players and a 1st round pick for Monta if you want though. Hell we could even include Big Baby in the second half.

[old rem]

MUhoops has a pretty good assessment from the Warriors perspective. With this trade the Warriors would have to start either CJ Watson, Acie Law or a rookie draftpick as PG.... not gonna happen. Allen doesn't have that great a value, he had a very good season, but he is 34 and nearing the end.... not a good fit for the youngest team in the NBA, by the time the kids reach their peak, Ray's best days will be well behind him. Great trade for the Celtics, but horrible trade for the Warriors. If you want to do a trade with the Warriors it has to involve Rondo or maybe Davis, all the others don't fit with the Warriors roster or organizational direction.

Good analysis guys. GSW isn't trading off young guys like Ellis + Wright to get the twilight of an old veteran. With Jackson getting traded...probably at a bit of a discount,and Crawford gone...for nothing....it makes no sense to purge the rest of the top 4 scorers and just get an expire and some LOW picks. That would be record setting lame especially as the coach's thing is score a lot. A team built on D and RBD ..may be okay with just vaporizing SOME of the shooter/scorer wing,but there's a point where you need to wonder how a GM does a deal and does not see how he's never gonna get another GM job.

I do think the Celtics are the team that sneaks in quietly and gets S Jackson. The Cavs feel entitled to him for virtually nothing,and Boston can pick him up rather cheap as topping what the Cavs put on the table won't be hard.

i expect Rondo stays a Celt and at at least $2 mill less $ than he thinks he gets. He just won't look as good on most other teams and a lot of them see that. Boston has KG + Pierce...kind of creates a great stage for a decent PG.

[old rem]

No way on Maggette. Ws signed him to a terrible deal and now he has concussion issues.

Not aware of concussion issues. He got his bell rung sometime last year,missed a couple games. Maybe you are thinking of G Wallace?

Maggette gets about $2 mill a year less than J Howard and a lot less than Ray Allen..had about the same numbers. If he was a 2 year deal it would be hard to say he was "overpaid'. Maggette averaged 20 per over the last 2 yr at about the same $ Marko Jaric got to do almost nothing. Anyhow..with Jackson likely to go, no sense trading Maggette in a weak deal.

Ellis will get a nice 20-24 a game and is a young guy GSW ought to keep another 10 yr. He does not want to leave and the Warriors don't want him to leave. No fire sale on Ellis.

Jackson is available. A team with KG and Pierce as leaders and a coach who is competant can do well with him.

LOL at the guys who'd turn down that absurd OP deal. GSW would be DUMB to do that deal. Ellis is worth far more than that whole package. Maggs is a 20 ppg "instant offense" guy and Wright becomes your best bench PF...and he just turned 21. Ray A is expiring and faded quite a bit. At best he may have 1 last year as a starter and another as a bench guy. Nothing else is...s**t in this. GSW does not get a damn thing that helps them. They just flush their future.

[sully00]

While I agree the original idea is a bad trade for GS Brandon Wright doesn't play for the Warriors how would he play for the Celtics. Maggette is a horrendous stat whore (comparing him to Ray Allen is a joke), I would take Jackson and his bucket crazy over him any day.

Again I love Monta Ellis and would love to see him in a Boston uni.