Trade Idea Thread

[ClipperDomination]

What if you could land a franchise PG and unload both Baron Davis and Zach Randolph?

Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen, Tony Allen
for
#1, Baron Davis, Zach Randolph

You guys would have Kaman, Gordon, Thornton, Jordan under contract for 2010. You could probably move Kaman if you really wanted to and land 2 big time free agents for a large market.

Rajon Rondo is not going to net you the #1 pick.

Also a team build around Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin >>>> a team build around Eric Gordon and Rajon Rondo.

+1

There's no way that will land you the #1 pick.

[ClipperDomination]

I like the idea of getting Howard, but we could do better than this. We give up too much talent for what we get back.

I'd def do something revolving around Kaman for Howard and another role player...

[PlinkingPanda]

Include James Singleton.

[dirkules_41]

Hmm... I like Thornton and Kaman for the Mavs. But I personally would not want a piece of Randolph and/or his contract. But I really love Blake Griffin maybe you can include him and we would also add Singleton
Uhm yeah... seriously... no Interest in Randolph at all. But this is just my 2cents...
Maybe we could work something out if Randolph goes to a third team which sends us a decent scoring/defending wingplayer.

[BG3eb]

Yeah, Dallas fan here.

I could see Damp, Josh and Carroll for two of those 3 pieces...I'm not sure if ZBo fits into the equation.
Is he gonna be moping around the whole time because he might not find a lot of minutes.

[Det the Threat]

We'd save some money on Z-Bo's and Kaman's contracts, but boy, is Carroll's contract crappy.

That's why i don't like it that much.

[BG3eb]

It's crappy in the sense it's lengthy, but it gets less severe in the numbers as the years roll off.

[ClipperEric]

Kaman, Thornton, Baron Davis

for

Howard, Terry, Barea

Kaman = Howard
Baron = Terry
Thornton = Barea

[LApwnd]

^^^wow just wow Thornton=Brea? on what planet/universe does that make sense?

[sweet daddy]

Talent-wise, it's good for Dallas. The three we get are better than the three we give overall. But we can't use Zach, and he wouldn't be easy to move. Not a good fit.

[ClipperEric]

^^^wow just wow Thornton=Brea? on what planet/universe does that make sense?

Well its not exactly a perfect comparison, I'll give you that. But in Kaman and Baron we are sending a lot more money out than is coming back in. Plus those 2 guys have injury concerns. We have to make up the difference somewhere. Al Thornton's numbers are a lot better than Barea's, but he's a point guard, and guess what we need, a PG! Not to mention that their contracts match up very well.

I love Thornton and don't want to give him up at all, but you have to give to get. And no question that Howard is an upgrade over him.

[PlinkingPanda]

Talent-wise, it's good for Dallas. The three we get are better than the three we give overall. But we can't use Zach, and he wouldn't be easy to move. Not a good fit.

He only has 2 years left on his contract. You keep him for a year to see how things work out, and if it doesn't you trade his expiring contract the next season. It's not that bad anymore.

[Cuban_KILLS_us]

Mavericks trade:
C. Eric Dampier
SG. Matt Carroll
SF. Josh Howard

Clippers trade
SF Al Thornton
PF. Zach Randolph
C. Chris Kaman

...What do u guys think?

The Mavs would not want Zach R, and there is no resaon to take him. Dampier's 2 year contract is reportedly very friendly. The second year is apparently dependent on Damp hitting levels of play that he hasn't seen in years. He won't hit those numbers with 48 minutes a game. It is apparently, in effect, an ending deal.

I like the idea of acquiring Kaman, but the current offers for him are apparently ending deals and the best offer was Mike freaking Miller. I think he could be WORTH Josh Howard straight up, but making that deal won't make the Mavs better. He is not only our #2 scorer, he is also our best defender.

There are plenty of opportunities for the mavs to add to thier roster without making equal subtractions.

[Cuban_KILLS_us]

I might consider a stackhouse +shawne williams for camby deal, but frankly the odds are the Mavs might get a better, younger player in a stack trade. That is certainly what the ownership seems to think. Stackhouse has a 7 million deal that can be bought out for 2. That gets the clips down where they want to be salarywise. I'd also be willing to trade stack + Carroll for camby if you guys want an outside shooter. I wish for once they'd do a "good enough" deal. I am ready for them to make a deal, but they seem content to wait until all the good deals dry up again.

Still, there are a number of good players who might be dumped for ending deals this off-season. I don't like it, but I understand it.

[Cuban_KILLS_us]

I might consider a stackhouse +shawne williams for camby deal, but frankly the odds are the Mavs might get a better, younger player in a stack trade. That is certainly what the ownership seems to think. Stackhouse has a 7 million deal that can be bought out for 2. That gets the clips down where they want to be salarywise. I'd also be willing to trade stack + Carroll for camby if you guys want an outside shooter. I wish for once they'd do a "good enough" deal. I am ready for them to make a deal, but they seem content to wait until all the good deals dry up again.

Still, there are a number of good players who might be dumped for ending deals this off-season. I don't like it, but I understand it.

[Det the Threat]

I might consider a stackhouse +shawne williams for camby deal, but frankly the odds are the Mavs might get a better, younger player in a stack trade. That is certainly what the ownership seems to think. Stackhouse has a 7 million deal that can be bought out for 2. That gets the clips down where they want to be salarywise. I'd also be willing to trade stack + Carroll for camby if you guys want an outside shooter. I wish for once they'd do a "good enough" deal. I am ready for them to make a deal, but they seem content to wait until all the good deals dry up again.

Still, there are a number of good players who might be dumped for ending deals this off-season. I don't like it, but I understand it.

I'm pretty sure the Clippers would be all over this one.
I mean, Camby's only one of the best rebounders and shot blockers of this league and an expiring as well. So it's understandable that we shouldn't expect anything of value in return.

[BG3eb]

Who is most likely of the two to get dealt for a salary dump?

Camby or Kaman?

[ClipperDomination]

^ Bucher makes it seem that Camby would be the more likely to get dealt for salary dump, but I hope neither is traded for JUST salary dump...

Most Clipps fans would rather keep Camby than Kaman though.

[slick_watts]

what would you guys want from okc in return for chris kaman? i think okc could take a chance on kaman staying healthy and has more than enough financial flexibility to take on his deal.

would lac take back expirings for kaman or are they looking for talent somewhere?

[Liverbird]

Would you consider Camby for Mike James (expiring) and Javaris Crittendon? Both Camby and James expire next year and you have a young PG to backup Davis.