Tomorrow Night: Will we be toasting or roasting Sarver/Kerr?

[funlle]

What confidence do we have that Sarver/Kerr will substantially improve our team through trades and the draft? Considering their track record, I feel we will be woefully disappointed and will be crying and not smiling! I hope I am very, very wrong!

Thoughts?

[-SDU-]

i think kerr is in a lose lose situation right now and there is no trade where amare and shaq go that makes us better IMO

no matter what happens tomorrow, us suns fans will have something to whinge about i reckon

i feel sorry for kerr right now - he is truly stuck between a rock and a hard place - i dont envy the decisions he must make at all

i fully support what he was thinking with the bell diaw marion trades etc - it just didnt work

[NashtyNas]

I think I'm going to be happy if we can get that OKC deal, or just go as it is and draft Clark.

[MaryvalesFinest]

I'm guessing somewhere in the middle...

[funlle]

On some level I feel sorry for Kerr but I also think he has made short term moves that end up hurting us. I probably can't argue with the Shaq for Marion trade as we were trying to win it all while facing a rapidly closing window of opportunity. Trading JRich for Bell and Diaw, I think, ends up hurting us, especially if Amare is traded. I loved Diaw's skills, especially when Amare was out. I would prefer Diaw to JRich any day and twice on Sunday. Kerr is in a no win situation. There isn't a trade out there that makes us a top tier team which is why I will "toast" Sarver/Kerr if we break the team up and build for the future.

[Cash]

Probably roasting. If we trade the pick, we probably won't get much back. If we use the pick, it'll probably be a lot like last year, where Fropez was about as unsexy as possible, but not really a bad pick, given who was on the board. Yes, I know several other bigs drafted later had better rookie years, but first off, how many are actual centers, which was what the Suns wanted, and second, how many would have made sense at the time under Porter?

I'm not saying Fropez was a good pick, necessarily, but I thought most of the draft-night complaining was unjustified. I'm one of the biggest draft/offseason complainers on here, but I didn't bitch much about Fropez, because who else was out there? I don't anticipate bitching too much this year, either, unless:

1.) $arver sells the pick,
2.) The Suns pass on Ty Lawson or maybe Earl Clark, or
3.) The Suns take Chase Budinger or BJ Mullens at #14.

[funlle]

If we draft Budinger, I will feel the same way I did as I am watching the NFL draft and the Cardinals traded their 9th pick for the Saints 15th and 16th pick (plus we gave them another pick). Saints drafted Terrel Suggs and we took Calvin Pace and Bryant Johnson. UGGGH! Bryan Colangelo made things interesting and I always trusted that he could pull off major deals, which he did. Although he made his mistakes as well. It is just hard pointing to anything positive Kerr has done.

[RaisingArizona]

We'll probably have to drink ourselves to sleep.

[chrice]

I'm not saying Fropez was a good pick, necessarily, but I thought most of the draft-night complaining was unjustified. I'm one of the biggest draft/offseason complainers on here, but I didn't bitch much about Fropez, because who else was out there? I don't anticipate bitching too much this year, either, unless:

It was totally justified. Fropez was never supposed to go that high. We drafted a project center when we were trying to contend. If we were going to draft a center, we needed to draft someone more ready to contribute immediately. Fropez was not that guy.

Who else was out there? Speights, Mcgee, Hickson, Hibbert. If we're talking wing guys, we could have grabbed Courtney Lee/Batum. I'm not even speaking from hindsight. No sane person in their right mind had Fropez going that fricking high in the draft.

[collidingNeurons]

name one deal, or one draft that the dynamic duo of sarver/kerr have pulled off that in retrospect you wouldn't take back, the closest thing is the shaq-marion trade and i still think that was a wash at best.

just a few off the top of my my head
The 7th pick ina fairly deep draft for a 20 something pick that we didnt keep either.

Joe Johnson for Diaw and what turned out to be Robin Lopez.. i cant imagine many of you not undoing this if you could... yes Johnson was unhappy, but that was mostly due to them bungling his contract situation the year before, besides so what. lots of players are unhappy if traded not traded and still do their jobs and have a change of heart.. see kobe bryant here

Q Richardson and Nate robinson for Kurt Thomas, ok not huge on Nate but as far as value this is likely lopsided against us too.

Rondo for cash, Rodriquez for cash, Fernandez for cash... umm yeah good moves.
kurt Thomas and TWO first round picks for essentially nothing.

Bell and Diaw for Jason Richardson, who now every suns fan seems to want to give away to anyone that would take him

Shaq for Two players that will likely never wear a Suns uniform and a low second round pick

Yes i know there's spin and justification for each one of these deals in their eyes at the time... but you'd think they'd get lucky once in a while and make a good deal even if they are as clueless as they seem.

To call the Suns management inept is being far too kind. 3-4 years ago this was the up and coming franchise, full of youth, picks, potential and excitement. It didn't matter that the Spurs were better than the Suns at the time because we had time on our side and they were aging, Now the suns are the old team and even though the spurs aren't young, they have a far better future than the Suns, not to mention all the teams that by passed the Suns in that time frame.

The Suns wrecked havoc on a team that should have been good to great for 7-10 years and there's no excuse for it. The deserve all the criticism anyone throws at them and more. Every team plays within the same salary cap situation and other than a few of the really wealthy teams they do it far better on equal or lesser budget than the suns do in most case.

I ambeyond disgusted and every year since sarver and especially since kerr i have gotten just a little closer to ending my 30 year tenure as a Suns fan.

[BurningHeart]

I want to stick a huge metal rod through their bodies and roast them over an open flame like at a Hawaiian Luau.

[NapoleonII]

Steve Kerr should work for Obama.

[BurningHeart]

Steve Kerr should work for Obama.

Steve Kerr could only work for Obama if he has tax evasion issues.