Wiz trade 5th pick to Minnesota

[McGeeNArenas]

LMAO...so Butler is a throw in in trades now?

God, I thank the basketball gos that some of you are NOT the Wizards GM. Seriously.


When you're talking about Amare, yes he is.

yeah be happy that some of us who have balls on this board are not the GM. You pussys love this mediocre, playing it safe team and look where its gotten us.

Its this pansy attitude that you people have that EG shares and because of it, we're guard heavy, head for an early playoff exit and don't have the services of the most offensively dominating big man in basketball.

Cool dude. Why don't you go root for the Suns then? I mean honestly, how can a team with one of the most dominating big man in basketball not win a championship, let alone not make the playoffs?

Oh wait...

how could a team with Caron FREAKIN Butler, who is too valuable to trade for a young dominating big man, win 19 wins out of 82, not win a championship or even get into the playoffs?

This is a team game, one man can't change everything by himself. But Amare on this team rather than Butler would give us a shot to win a title next year and for years to come if Arenas is healthy while the team currently constructed will be slapped silly by the top east teams.

[Cramer]

Go the **** away.

[yungal07]

how could a team with Caron FREAKIN Butler, who is too valuable to trade for a young dominating big man, win 19 wins out of 82, not win a championship or even get into the playoffs?

This is a team game, one man can't change everything by himself. But Amare on this team rather than Butler would give us a shot to win a title next year and for years to come if Arenas is healthy while the team currently constructed will be slapped silly by the top east teams.

LOL way to contradict yourself buddy. Nicely done.

Stoudemire was on a team with Nash, Shaq, Grant Hill, and Jason Richardson, and they got slapped silly by the top 8 teams in the West. So you have absolutely zippo to support your argument. As a a matter of fact, Stoudemire was a big reason the Suns stunk last season with his crappy attitude and defense.

Stoudemire wouldnt put the Wizards over the top, and if you think he does, then I want whatever you're smoking now.

[hands11]

Kind of funny how all the positive vibe just went out the window. The fact of the matter is, the Wizards were unwilling to take a risk. Because of that, they lost out on the opportunity to draft Rubio. Not necessarily to keep him, but to fetch something better than what they got with Minn. And, in the end, if they couldn't, they still could have dealt Rubio to Minnesota for what they got. Like I said before, the problem that I have with this organization is that they always seem to play it safe, instead of swinging for the fence. While I don't think the Wizards are necessarily "content for mediocrity" (I don't want to offend Fish again ), but its the play safe attitude of the Wizards that lead to mediocrity.

That's because to many people on this board change their minds like a women in a clothing store.

As for what your saying, come back and talk to us about mediocrity when we are kicking some mega butt next year.

We made the right move.

1 - we needed to turn 15 players into less, we did a 4 for 2

2 - we long wanted to move Etans contracts, we did and we tossed OP out in the processes. Kid just didn't win anyone over enough to play even a team that was short handed in bigs.

3 - this is a vet team going for it and anyone we drafted would have been a ??? few rookie contribute solid minutes in the playoffs. The players we got, we know will.

Sure I liked Rubio and Curry but when you look at our total situation, we needed to do what we did instead of gambling.

I'll say it again, our draft was getting Flip, and GA and Haywood returning. By adding Foye and Miller, we are now more of a mature team for the remaining rookie to fit into. We will have no rookies but 2 and 3rd year players running with a solid talented vet team. That will only help them get better. McGee now is the biggest question and the one who needs to step up the most. Blatche is right behind him. Then Nick, then Crit, then DMAC who you know what you mostly have.

We should be able to get off to a fast start and keep it going the whole season and into the playoffs.

We just need another center as insurance to McGee's growing pains. But no doubt, the kid has tons of raw talent. 7-1, long and can jump.

[queridiculo]

This is a team game, one man can't change everything by himself. But Amare on this team rather than Butler would give us a shot to win a title next year and for years to come if Arenas is healthy while the team currently constructed will be slapped silly by the top east teams.

Moving Butler for Amare has the net effect of losing two starters.

You can't possibly play him and Jamison together and considering that this deal also would have required us to give up the 5th pick we'd end up with a considerably worse starting five and still wouldn't have the depth to compete over a long 82 game season.

1. Arenas
2. ???
3. ???
4. Amare
5. Haywood

With McGuire, Young and Stevenson to fill out those two spots how would we have been better?

[McGeeNArenas]

how could a team with Caron FREAKIN Butler, who is too valuable to trade for a young dominating big man, win 19 wins out of 82, not win a championship or even get into the playoffs?

This is a team game, one man can't change everything by himself. But Amare on this team rather than Butler would give us a shot to win a title next year and for years to come if Arenas is healthy while the team currently constructed will be slapped silly by the top east teams.

LOL way to contradict yourself buddy. Nicely done.

Stoudemire was on a team with Nash, Shaq, Grant Hill, and Jason Richardson, and they got slapped silly by the top 8 teams in the West. So you have absolutely zippo to support your argument. As a a matter of fact, Stoudemire was a big reason the Suns stunk last season with his crappy attitude and defense.

Stoudemire would put the Wizards over the top, and if you think he does, then I want whatever you're smoking now.

Wow, you're really using the Suns to get your point across? That team was done two years ago. Kerr effectively destroyed that team and its identity by bringing in Shaq.

The inclusion of Shaq changed the complexion of a run and gun team to a team in chaos. They couldn't run with Shaq and they weren't effect in the half court with the other players around him. Not the mention that Shaq could away all of the spacing for Amare and was horrible in defending the pick and roll.

Nice try though

like it or not, Amare would have helped this team 10 fold more than Butler will.

[McGeeNArenas]

This is a team game, one man can't change everything by himself. But Amare on this team rather than Butler would give us a shot to win a title next year and for years to come if Arenas is healthy while the team currently constructed will be slapped silly by the top east teams.

Moving Butler for Amare has the net effect of losing two starters.

You can't possibly play him and Jamison together and considering that this deal also would have required us to give up the 5th pick we'd end up with a considerably worse starting five and still wouldn't have the depth to compete over a long 82 game season.

1. Arenas
2. ???
3. ???
4. Amare
5. Haywood

With McGuire, Young and Stevenson to fill out those two spots how would we have been better?

1. Arenas/Critt
2. Young/D brick
3. Mcguire/AJ or played traded for
4. Amare/AB
5. Haywood/bMcgee

AJ to the bench or preferably moved for a defensive/spot up swingman.......VC was just had for peanuts. Theres bound to be more teams looking for offload players. If we only had one of those smart GM rather than one who's always seemingly on the losing side of things.

[queridiculo]

You're so clueless it hurts.

[yungal07]

Wow, you're really using the Suns to get your point across?

Of course I am numbnuts...what other team has Stoudemire played for?

That team was done two years ago. Kerr effectively destroyed that team and its identity by bringing in Shaq.

They never made the finals before Shaq arrived, so again, you have failed to make a point.

The inclusion of Shaq changed the complexion of a run and gun team to a team in chaos. They couldn't run with Shaq and they weren't effect in the half court with the other players around him. Not the mention that Shaq could away all of the spacing for Amare and was horrible in defending the pick and roll.

I'm sorry, but you're telling me one of the most dominating bigmen in basketball couldn't make due? I'll put this on your plate for you...put Shaq on the Spurs next to Duncan, and Duncan would be just fine. That's because Duncan really is a dominating bigman...

Nice try though

No, you lose.

like it or not, Amare would have helped this team 10 fold more than Butler will.

That's possible. But you don't know that. What we do know is that Amare didn't help his team last year. Well, I take that back...he helped the team get a low lottery pick.

[LyricalRico]

"One man can't change everything by himself"...but Amare can take this team from 19 wins to a title? This guy makes WizNasty look like Socrates.

[Cramer]

You're so clueless it hurts.

+1

[Halcyon]

This is a team game, one man can't change everything by himself. But Amare on this team rather than Butler would give us a shot to win a title next year and for years to come if Arenas is healthy while the team currently constructed will be slapped silly by the top east teams.

Moving Butler for Amare has the net effect of losing two starters.

You can't possibly play him and Jamison together and considering that this deal also would have required us to give up the 5th pick we'd end up with a considerably worse starting five and still wouldn't have the depth to compete over a long 82 game season.

1. Arenas
2. ???
3. ???
4. Amare
5. Haywood

With McGuire, Young and Stevenson to fill out those two spots how would we have been better?

1. Arenas/Critt
2. Young/D brick
3. Mcguire/AJ or played traded for
4. Amare/AB
5. Haywood/bMcgee

AJ to the bench or preferably moved for a defensive/spot up swingman.......VC was just had for peanuts. Theres bound to be more teams looking for offload players. If we only had one of those smart GM rather than one who's always seemingly on the losing side of things.

That's a 40-45-win team max, if both Arenas and Amare are healthy.

[McGeeNArenas]

Wow, you're really using the Suns to get your point across?

Of course I am numbnuts...what other team has Stoudemire played for?

That team was done two years ago. Kerr effectively destroyed that team and its identity by bringing in Shaq.

They never made the finals before Shaq arrived, so again, you have failed to make a point.

The inclusion of Shaq changed the complexion of a run and gun team to a team in chaos. They couldn't run with Shaq and they weren't effect in the half court with the other players around him. Not the mention that Shaq could away all of the spacing for Amare and was horrible in defending the pick and roll.

I'm sorry, but you're telling me one of the most dominating bigmen in basketball couldn't make due? I'll put this on your plate for you...put Shaq on the Spurs next to Duncan, and Duncan would be just fine. That's because Duncan really is a dominating bigman...

Nice try though

No, you lose.

like it or not, Amare would have helped this team 10 fold more than Butler will.

That's possible. But you don't know that. What we do know is that Amare didn't help his team last year. Well, I take that back...he helped the team get a low lottery pick.

you are brain dead?

Before Shaq came, they got screwed against the Spurs when Amare crushed him for 37 in a series and Stern had to suspend players for the Spurs to win. They were always contending. It's not Amares fault that the Suns management did a horrible job by giving aways players like Deng, Rondo, Rudy, Diaw, and try to change their whole identity by trying to fit a squre into a hole.

[McGeeNArenas]

"One man can't change everything by himself"...but Amare can take this team from 19 wins to a title? This guy makes WizNasty look like Socrates.

And you make this other moron look like Einstein

I feel like I'm debating inbreds here

It's not a 19 win team when you have a healthy Arenas, Haywood, and a more mature young corps to help Amare.

[yungal07]

You're so clueless it hurts.

QFT

[Ruzious]

It stings that the Mike Miller trade I called for - about a week ago - was Miller and the 18th pick for the 5th and filler. Well, the 18th pick was exactly the guy I wanted - Lawson. So close to being Nostradamus!

[McGeeNArenas]

That's a 40-45-win team max, if both Arenas and Amare are healthy.

Maybe, but I'd rather take my chances on a team with an dominating big man rather than playing with 4 swingmen every night.

[McGeeNArenas]

You're so clueless it hurts.

You're a pussy, keep following EG to mediocrity.

[McGeeNArenas]

Go the **** away.

sit on the sidelines and keep your mouth shut if you have nothing to add little boy.

[Cramer]

Go the **** away.

sit on the sidelines and keep your mouth shut if you have nothing to add little boy.

Well, he hits the exacta. Not only is he an idiot, he's an internet bad ass. Wow.

You're a clown, dude.