Kings new roster '09-'10 (SO FAR) - Now what?

[ALPHA17]

Gortat would awesome...I would love it.

I think Beno is gone. Ya ya he has a terrible contract but bad contracts are almost ALWAYS exaggerated on these boards. I dont think we acquire Rod. if we're keeping Beno...doesnt make sense.

I think we sign Gortat as our third big, and let everyone else expire.

Make a trade to upgrade at SF.

Hawes/Gortat
Thompson/Nocioni/Greene
Nocioni/Greene/Casspi
Martin/Garcia
Evans/Rodriguez

Like I said we need an upgrade at SF but other than that thats a talented team with a lot of upside.

Evans will be a star. BOOK IT!

Still the ingredients of a lottery team in the 09-10 season. Hopefully JT and Hawes polish their game this upcoming season. Evans should be ROY due to having the best situation out of the lottery picks. I would also really like to see the front office assign a great vet to coach/tutor Tyreke. (Just like what Ewing is doing with Dwight) Evans might have the highest ceiling in this draft, but he definitely won't find it on his own.

[cdt3]

Here's what I think so far. The plan is for Evans/Martin/Noc/JT/Hawes start with Beno/Garcia/ Casspi/Greene/Brockman off the bench.

Evans played SG the first half of the season and switched to PG and Memphis only lost 1 game after. Magic and Hedo are 6'9" PGs and you are worried about a 6'5" PG? We need a strong, mentally tough PG, not afraid to take the team on his shoulders in the clutch and we got one. We run the princeton when Bibby was here he avgd 6 asst, Billups a very good PG avgs 6. Evans and Martin now balance each other like JT/Hawes.

Casspi is a young Noc (Kirilenko or Batum type and size) and Noc is 29 now and has about 3 more years of really good play. So Casspi is the defensive lockdown guy to play at the 3 to balance the other offensive guys like Christie did in the old days.

Rodriguez is signed as an 11th man at 800k, maybe Brockman is the 12th guy if we sign Diogu or Simmons or a FA. I think Brockman may play because he will be an enforcer from day 1. I doubt we re-sign Diogu because of all the offensive depth at the 3/4/5. Probably keep Simmons or a FA.

This team got tougher at every weakness inlcuding coach and assistants. These are your 2009/10 Sac Kings. Evans is the PG of the future, except when Beno comes off the bench plays then Martin and Evans will move over to 2/3. Maybe there will be some delay with Beno starting at PG early but expect Evans to finish the year as starter at PG. I expect 17/5 out of Evans, 20/5 out of KMart, JT a 20/10/2, and Hawes a 17/9/2 this year. This is going to be a tough and high scoring team and earning a #8 spot in the playoffs.

[RIPskaterdude]

^^ Err...those numbers are a little high. While I'm a fan of Evans, I don't think he will put up 17/5 next year, but I hope he proves me wrong I would expect something like 14/6/4/2 (ppg/apg/rpg/spg)

[rwheeler]

I didn;t watch Evans in college, but he's ~6'6 strong and long, we have a PG and a SG who are very good shooters, but none of them in excellent ball handler, why not Evans at SF?

i did, and he's absolutely a stud. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the ROY next year.

Man I sure hope so, that would put all the disbelievers to rest. Well, maybe. Everybody will still probably talk about Rubio and say something like he would have won ROY if we drafted him.

[SacKingZZZ]

I LOVE that idea, however, we do need AT LEAST one more 7 footer on the roster for depth purposes. I'd also like to get one more 'PG' and then a swingman to fill out the roster.

I disagree, I think we need a guy that can play PF as well as C. Another 7 footer is kind of stuck at C, that's why I think Diogu needs to come back.

[SacKingZZZ]

^^ Err...those numbers are a little high. While I'm a fan of Evans, I don't think he will put up 17/5 next year, but I hope he proves me wrong I would expect something like 14/6/4/2 (ppg/apg/rpg/spg)

I for one think Evans comes off the bench next year. Beno starts and Evans backs up the 1, 2, and 3. Only problem is where does that leave Cisco?

[_SRV_]

I didn;t watch Evans in college, but he's ~6'6 strong and long, we have a PG and a SG who are very good shooters, but none of them in excellent ball handler, why not Evans at SF?

i did, and he's absolutely a stud. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the ROY next year.

I'm nnot talking about how he will perfor, I'm suggesting playing him at the SF position.

[Draino]

This team got tougher at every weakness inlcuding coach and assistants. These are your 2009/10 Sac Kings. Evans is the PG of the future, except when Beno comes off the bench plays then Martin and Evans will move over to 2/3. Maybe there will be some delay with Beno starting at PG early but expect Evans to finish the year as starter at PG. I expect 17/5 out of Evans, 20/5 out of KMart, JT a 20/10/2, and Hawes a 17/9/2 this year. This is going to be a tough and high scoring team and earning a #8 spot in the playoffs.

lay off the pipe lol are you crazy?? JT 20/10 in his 2nd year?? who do you think he is? chris webber?? not gonna happen, and hawes won't do that either... evans and martin are reasonable, and no this team is not YET ready to "earn" a playoff spot, we need FA additions to do that, they are close, but not yet

[Smills91]

^^ Err...those numbers are a little high. While I'm a fan of Evans, I don't think he will put up 17/5 next year, but I hope he proves me wrong I would expect something like 14/6/4/2 (ppg/apg/rpg/spg)

I see that as good average. I think his basement is 12/4 and his ceiling NEXT year is 20/7
he'll probably be a 16-18/5-7 guy next year.

[Smills91]

I LOVE that idea, however, we do need AT LEAST one more 7 footer on the roster for depth purposes. I'd also like to get one more 'PG' and then a swingman to fill out the roster.

I disagree, I think we need a guy that can play PF as well as C. Another 7 footer is kind of stuck at C, that's why I think Diogu needs to come back.

I'm a fan of Diogu, but I see Jason as the swing guy between the 4/5. I want another legit 7 footer for match-ups, depth and foul purposes.

I think another 4/5 is inevitable, but we REALLY need another 7 footer on the roster.

[SacKingZZZ]

I'm a fan of Diogu, but I see Jason as the swing guy between the 4/5. I want another legit 7 footer for match-ups, depth and foul purposes.

I think another 4/5 is inevitable, but we REALLY need another 7 footer on the roster.

Foul purposes? I'd rather just sent Brockman after 'em in that case! Doesn't matter how tall somebody is, Brock will lay them out. hahaha. Between he and Diogu we are fine in depth/hard foul dept. in fact probably better off than any other team!

As for 7 footers, hmmm....Sun Ming Ming!!!! Or Luke Nevill. Or Aaron Gray. Just bench fodder beef in case we need someone to foul Yao, Shaq, or Oden. To be honest though, Brockman and Diogu would make mincemeat out of any of the 7 footers I think we could target at that level.

[pillwenney]

If we hold on to Brockman, give IKE the QO, and sign someone like an Aaron Gray, I'll be happy. I agree with Smills that we just need another 7 footer. If Spencer were to go down, this team would be absolutely tiny. What I'd rather do is look to move Beno or Noc in a trade. Unfortunately, unless someone like Atlanta, for instance, loses somebody like Bibby to FA, I don't see many Beno for big deals out there. There are some possibilities with Beno going to the Clippers, and I think there a couple of legitimate possibilities for minor salary dumps, but that's it.

Noc is probably more likely, but he only becomes really expendable if Casspi comes over and/or Donte is much more ready next year. I could see real Noc for big deals to places like Minnesota, maybe the Clippers, maybe Miami, New Jersey, maybe Charlotte.

[Smills91]

If we hold on to Brockman, give IKE the QO, and sign someone like an Aaron Gray, I'll be happy. I agree with Smills that we just need another 7 footer. If Spencer were to go down, this team would be absolutely tiny. What I'd rather do is look to move Beno or Noc in a trade. Unfortunately, unless someone like Atlanta, for instance, loses somebody like Bibby to FA, I don't see many Beno for big deals out there. There are some possibilities with Beno going to the Clippers, and I think there a couple of legitimate possibilities for minor salary dumps, but that's it.

Noc is probably more likely, but he only becomes really expendable if Casspi comes over and/or Donte is much more ready next year. I could see real Noc for big deals to places like Minnesota, maybe the Clippers, maybe Miami, New Jersey, maybe Charlotte.

I think I thought of a trade with the Pacers:

Beno + Thomas(EC)

for

Tinsley + Murphy or Foster.

We get an added vet 7 footer, and Tinsley is 1) more talented than Beno(I think), 2) A better fit(as he can be a quick distributor that we need and 3) Expires 2 year earlier.

We lose the EC of THomas, but this makes us players in 2011, which may be a better strategy for the way our team is designed currently. I'd actually prefer Murphy's BIGGER contract, as he's better, but Foster would be a nice tough energy guy off the bench to REALLY shore up our rebounding issues. We may just be the BEST rebouding team in the league after this deal.

The Pacers get a productive player for Tinsley in Beno and then add some near-instant salary relief.

We then move Noc to boston for Scalabrine/Allen

Re-sign IKE

New roster:

C: Hawes, Foster/Murphy, Scalabrine
PF: Thompson, Ike, Brockman
SF: Garcia, Greene, Casspi
SG: Martin, Allen
PG: Evans, Tinsley, Rodriguez

[cuad]

Trade Kenny Thomas (somehow) to the Knicks for Mouhamed Sene. They get cap space for Lebron, we get a guy who's 6'11, is young, cheap, has long arms and can hopefully get a few blocks/play defense and rebound with minutes. I like this guy better than any other free agent big guys.

[SacKingZZZ]

I'm calling it right now people! If JKidd leaves Dallas it's Beno for the contract of Jerry Stackhouse.

[Smills91]

I'm calling it right now people! If JKidd leaves Dallas it's Beno for the contract of Jerry Stackhouse.

That'd be SWEET.

[wd707]

Someone explain why we need to trade good pieces ( thomas expiring) or spend money on other bigs when we got hawes/thompson. Could re-sign ike, and drafted brockman? I seriously dont understand it at ALL.

The last thing we need on this team is shooting guards and power forwards. We could upgrade at
small forward ( nocioni) but I dont understand this whole trade our best piece in thomas for a center/power forward??