3 Big Trades Leaves 2 Big Free Agents

pdub15 · Post #1 » by **pdub15** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:17 am

Vince to The Magic. Shaq to the Cavs. R Jeff to the Spurs. Those three trades really kicked off the offseason. But it also is a big affect on to free agents. Rasheed Wallace & Hedo T.

Rasheed Wallace

You best believe the Cavs and Spurs will be bidding for his services. For the Cavs he is the perfect type of PF to play next to Shaq because he can stretch out and shoot the jumper. For the Spurs a starting line up of Parker, Manu, R Jeff, Wallace, & Duncan is straight scary for any team to match up against.

Hedo T

Personally I think the Magic front office would be giving up way too much to do a S&T and let Hedo walk. A healthy Jameer, Vince, Hedo, Lewis, & Howard is something fierce. Magic front office needs to realize they made some revenue from home playoff and final games that will cover a good chunk of the luxury tax. What good is getting Vince in a trade but losing Hedo, Lee, Battie, Alston, and Gorat. Where else could Hedo fit with the economy? Detroit has the $$$. Hornets and Portland would be a nice fit but would those two teams be able to play his price tag and pull off a S&T.

If I'm Mitch and the Lakers I'm looking at this closely. My first choice is to keep Rasheed away from the Cavs and Spurs. Remember Morrison/ Farmar/ & Future 1st equals just under 9million with Morrison & Farmar basically being EC since they are restricted free agents after next season. That is something to dangle in a S&T

larry14r · Post #2 » by **larry14r** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:21 am

pdub15 wrote:Vince to The Magic. Shaq to the Cavs. R Jeff to the Spurs. Those three trades really kicked off the offseason. But it also is a big affect on to free agents. Rasheed Wallace & Hedo T.

Rasheed Wallace

You best believe the Cavs and Spurs will be bidding for his services. For the Cavs he is the perfect type of PF to play next to Shaq because he can stretch out and shoot the jumper. For the Spurs a starting line up of Parker, Manu, R Jeff, Wallace, & Duncan is straight scary for any team to match up against.

Hedo T

Personally I think the Magic front office would be giving up way too much to do a S&T and let Hedo walk. A healthy Jameer, Vince, Hedo, Lewis, & Howard is something fierce. Magic front office needs to realize they made some revenue from home playoff and final games that will cover a good chunk of the luxury tax. What good is getting Vince in a trade but losing Hedo, Lee, Battie, Alston, and Gorat. Where else could Hedo fit with the economy? Detroit has the $$$. Hornets and Portland would be a nice fit but would those two teams be able to play his price tag and pull off a S&T.

If I'm Mitch and the Lakers I'm looking at this closely. My first choice is to keep Rasheed away from the Cavs and Spurs. Remember Morrison/ Farmar/ & Future 1st equals just under 9million with Morrison & Farmar basically being EC since they are restricted free agents after next season. That is something to dangle in a S&T

The only sign and trade we are going to do is for a PG like Jarrett Jack for example not that idiot in Wallace.

DubaLakers · Post #3 » by **DubaLakers** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:23 am

Sheed made 13.7 last year.

Hedo is looking for his big contract, he's not gettable. He's 30 I think this is it for him. Ptown is said to have the inside track.

I don't see the LAL signing either.

pdub15 · Post #4 » by **pdub15** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:34 am

Jarrett Jack has done nothing to prove himself in this league. He is close to becoming a bust. Rasheed has played in 2 NBA Finals, Plays D, and Can play the 4 or 5 position on both sides of the court.

Plus Jack is a restricted free agent. Once the Pacers put a qualifying offer to place the restricted free agency tag in place we can't do a S&T on a restricted free agent.

pdub15 · Post #5 » by **pdub15** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:38 am

DubaLakers wrote:Sheed made 13.7 last year.

Hedo is looking for his big contract, he's not gettable. He's 30 I think this is it for him. Ptown is said to have the inside track.

I don't see the LAL signing either.

Rasheed, Allen Iverson, & Jason Kidd are players that made big money last year but won't see anything more than the MLE at 1 or 2 years offered to them this summer. Iverson and Rasheed may not think that now but come July 1st they will see it and either have to come to grips with it or retire.

Post #6 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:41 am

what about Iverson to the Lakers for cheap?

Tommy Trojan · Post #7 » by **Tommy Trojan** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:51 am

Smush Parker anyone?

larry14r · Post #8 » by **larry14r** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:59 am

pdub15 wrote:Jarrett Jack has done nothing to prove himself in this league. He is close to becoming a bust. Rasheed has played in 2 NBA Finals, Plays D, and Can play the 4 or 5 position on both sides of the court.

Plus Jack is a restricted free agent. Once the Pacers put a qualifying offer to place the restricted free agency tag in place we can't do a S&T on a restricted free agent.

Still doesn't excuse him for being a jackasre, and you know know now we are better off not doing anything else other than resignning our own players because frankly you all ruined everything with your stupid ideas.

pdub15 · Post #9 » by **pdub15** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:38 pm

larry14r wrote:
pdub15 wrote:Jarrett Jack has done nothing to prove himself in this league. He is close to becoming a bust. Rasheed has played in 2 NBA Finals, Plays D, and Can play the 4 or 5 position on both sides of the court.

Plus Jack is a restricted free agent. Once the Pacers put a qualifying offer to place the restricted free agency tag in place we can't do a S&T on a restricted free agent.

Still doesn't excuse him for being a jackasre, and you know know now we are better off not doing anything else other than resignning our own players because frankly you all ruined everything with your stupid ideas.

Repeating as champions takes more than just resigning your players. You have to add pieces to improve your team. Jack is not an improvement to the team. Rasheed, Brandon Bass, Mike Bibby, Jason Kidd! Now those Are players that become improvements to the team.

pdub15 · Post #10 » by **pdub15** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:43 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:what about Iverson to the Lakers for cheap?

He is still a risk. I'm not going to put Detroit on him. That was a bad trade because Detroit gave up their leader. Our team is played extremely well by sharing the ball wonderfully. Can Iverson handle only getting 15ppg and limited shots in the triangle? Getting him cheap is nice but it all goes back to does he help improve the team. He and Kobe do have a high level of respect for each others game so that is a plus.

idf469 · Post #11 » by **idf469** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:34 pm

Iverson for the MLE would be great. Im sure Iverson would be interested in getting a ring, as he has done just about everything except for winning the title. As far as him being able to share the ball, he will always be known for being a great scorer, but he is a career 6+ assist man on teams that he was the only all star.

I know hes defense isnt great, but the sole fact that it takes so much energy just to defend him including getting opposing players in foul trouble is better than what we have in Fisher.

Pros
Great competitor
Wants to win (needs to win)
Great ball handler
Will improve our passing, as fisher doesnt share the ball at all.
Great scorer (can explode for 35 at any time)
Gets to the free throw line
Can carry the team on his back (when kobe is resting)
Clutch
Will take so much pressure out of kobe.
Respects Kobe

Negatives
Hes a little crazy in the locker room (when the team is losing)
Hes getting up there in age (but still a star)

My opinion, Medium risk:High reward.

larry14r · Post #12 » by **larry14r** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:44 am

idf469 wrote:Iverson for the MLE would be great. Im sure Iverson would be interested in getting a ring, as he has done just about everything except for winning the title. As far as him being able to share the ball, he will always be known for being a great scorer, but he is a career 6+ assist man on teams that he was the only all star.

I know hes defense isnt great, but the sole fact that it takes so much energy just to defend him including getting opposing players in foul trouble is better than what we have in Fisher.

Pros
Great competitor
Wants to win (needs to win)
Great ball handler
Will improve our passing, as fisher doesnt share the ball at all.
Great scorer (can explode for 35 at any time)
Gets to the free throw line
Can carry the team on his back (when kobe is resting)
Clutch
Will take so much pressure out of kobe.
Respects Kobe

Negatives
Hes a little crazy in the locker room (when the team is losing)
Hes getting up there in age (but still a star)

My opinion, Medium risk:High reward.

You know the rules no cancers allowed.

larry14r · Post #13 » by **larry14r** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:46 am

pdub15 wrote:
larry14r wrote:
pdub15 wrote:Jarrett Jack has done nothing to prove himself in this league. He is close to becoming a bust. Rasheed has played in 2 NBA Finals, Plays D, and Can play the 4 or 5 position on both sides of the court.

Plus Jack is a restricted free agent. Once the Pacers put a qualifying offer to place the restricted free agency tag in place we can't do a S&T on a restricted free agent.

Still doesn't excuse him for being a jackasre, and you know know now we are better off not doing anything else other than resignning our own players because frankly you all ruined everything with your stupid ideas.

Repeating as champions takes more than just resigning your players. You have to add pieces to improve your team. Jack is not an improvement to the team. Rasheed, Brandon Bass, Mike Bibby, Jason Kidd! Now those Are players that become improvements to the team.

Expect that I hate Sheed and Bibby, and Kidd is old, and Bass will not get any minutes on this team anyways.

pdub15 · Post #14 » by **pdub15** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:05 pm

Many Lakers fans hated Karl Malone too. Don't let Kidd's season with the Mavs fool you. He still can play and be a solid role player. Bass rebounds, plays hard, and can earn minutes on any team in the league.

Busboys4me · Post #15 » by **Busboys4me** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:33 am

Adding Wallace to San Antonio is not going to happen just because he does not fit the team's chemistry. His antics would be in direct conflict to what Pop believes in. San Antonio is a "team first" organization. Their floor leader is Duncan. He is soft spoken and bringing Wallace in would be akin to the Dallas Cowboys experiment with T.O. Though it made them better on paper, it didn't make them a better team. There was dissension.

Sheed more than likely still wants to be a starter, so unfortunately, he could not be a Laker. We would not sit Pau. Sheed playing back-up center for the Lakers would give the second team everything they need. The Bench Mob with Sheed, Odom, Farmar, Brown, and Walton (if we can't find a taker for him) would be the best second team in the NBA. But would Sheed be happy with 20 to 25 minutes a night? The second problem would be whether the Lakers use the Mid-level exception on one player or do they use it to resign Odom, Ariza, and Brown. If they do, forget any free agents. If they don't, look for them to add Sheed, Kidd, or Marion. Marion is actually the 3rd big free agent. He is not so far fetched for the Lakers because the market for him is not going to be as great because he has shown that he is not the same without Nash. We could use him on the bench to take Walton's spot. That would also give us an ace in the hole for people like Jefferson and Carter if they get Trevor in foul trouble.

As far as Hedo is concerned, he will get his money somewhere. Orlando should give him the 10 million for two or three years so that they can make the ultimate run for the gold. They are similar to the 2008 Lakers in that they made the big dance, but came with two left feet. They were not ready to finish the game. Next year they will be stronger.