ALL RUBIO TALK HERE

[Tirion]

Real madrid is the same franchise that payed 68 million euros for Kakà, and 93 million for Cristiano Ronaldo...

and this has nothing to do with basketball club Real Madrid. Their entire budget was around 35 million $ this year, they ain't paying almost half of that for one player.

[KWSN-Men]

Just so you guys know the reason this is coming up is because Real Madrid made him a huge offer. They would pay his entire buyout and then pay him $17 million over the next 2 seasons. Then after that he would go to the NBA. This is not in the least bit impossible as Real Madrid is the richest sports club in the world.

you're full of ****. let's see: rubio's buyout = 4.7 million euro that's about 6.5 million $. so you're sayin that Real will pay 17+6.5=23.5 million $ for two-year rental of Rubio? That's 8.5 million euro for a year! Nobody in Europe is geting that kind of money:

08/09 Salaries Top 5

Josh Childress - Olympiacos - 4.500.000
Theodoros Papaloukas - Olympiacos - 3.500.000
Sarunas Jasikevicius - Panathinaikos - 3.500.000
Bostjan Nachbar - Dynamo Moscow - 3.200.000*
Jorge Garbajosa - Khimki Moscow - 3.000.000

http://www.in-the-game.org/?page_id=1322

take your **** somewhere else.

Learn something and stop being ignorant. 6 million euros net is what they offered him. That = a $17-$18 million NBA contract. And you just earned an ignore.

[KWSN-Men]

as for Real Madrid paying astronomical sums to Rubio for two years, who cares? I hope they do, then the following will happen:

1) Ricky will be under tremendous pressure to perform and we will see how he handles it;
2) If he is the real deal, he will increase his value;
3) As others have said, the Wolves are not in a position to compete for a title any time soon, so they can wait patiently for Ricky to come over and realize his dream to play in the NBA;
4) Flynn will sink or swim on his own and if he is as good as Kahn and the organization believes, the Wolves will be enhancing a team on the rise with the addition of Ricky.

And #5 he would play for the genius Messina. The best coach possibly in the world to develop him.

[Genjuro]

Real madrid is the same franchise that payed 68 million euros for Kakà, and 93 million for Cristiano Ronaldo...

They could easily pay for Rubio if they want.. The society is the same for many sports including basketball and football.. President Florentino Perez thinks is god, and has apparently illimited funds..

Real Madrid is mainly a soccer team. They can pay $130 million for a soccer player because the soccer team generates over $400 million per year.

The thing is, their basketball budget last season has been something like $25 million, and they could only generate something like a third part of that amount.

So, yes, they have the money, and they could pay all that money for Rubio, just as they could give $50 million to the first dude the team president finds in the street. But it won't happen.

Real Madrid could make an investment and pay the buyout, given that Rubio is a highly marketeable guy, but his salary would be moderate. I'm guessing something like $1-1.5 million net.

[Tirion]

and economical situation in Spain (and Europe in general) is really bad right now, why do you think Joventut sold Rubio's rights to IRS in the first place? nobody is going to spent major cash in Europe this summer. Olympiacos, CSKA, Barcelona and other big time european clubs are in cutting costs mode right now.

[FairDinkum]

The only way I can see the Rubio pick backfiring is if he demands a trade and there has been no indication that he will do such a thing

Even if he does he still has tremendous value right now and would most definitely bring back a number of assets

[MagnusPinus]

Real madrid is the same franchise that payed 68 million euros for Kakà, and 93 million for Cristiano Ronaldo...

and this has nothing to do with basketball club Real Madrid. Their entire budget was around 35 million $ this year, they ain't paying almost half of that for one player.

Real MAdrid as Barcelona are vert particular clubs... they are larger clubs that include more sports with the same ownership. So Perez is also president of the basketball department of the club.. He has already taken Messina as coach, and Velickovic(outstanding young europeane player).. He has all the money he wants-

[Genjuro]

Learn something and stop being ignorant. 6 million euros net is what they offered him. That = a $17-$18 million NBA contract. And you just earned an ignore.

Firstable, there's not such offer. You live in an imaginary world. Hey, I would love that you shared your experiences with us. Is it made of chocolate?

And second, the euro is not worth 1.6 dollars at this moment.

[KWSN-Men]

Real madrid is the same franchise that payed 68 million euros for Kakà, and 93 million for Cristiano Ronaldo...

They could easily pay for Rubio if they want.. The society is the same for many sports including basketball and football.. President Florentino Perez thinks is god, and has apparently illimited funds..

Real Madrid is mainly a soccer team. They can pay $130 million for a soccer player because the soccer team generates over $400 million per year.

The thing is, their basketball budget last season has been something like $25 million, and they could only generate something like a third part of that amount.

So, yes, they have the money, and they could pay all that money for Rubio, just as they could give $50 million to the first dude the team president finds in the street. But it won't happen.

Real Madrid could make an investment and pay the buyout, given that Rubio is a highly marketeable guy, but his salary would be moderate. I'm guessing something like $1-1.5 million net.

Well your guess is a guess. The rumored offer was 3 a year. Still, 1.5 a year would be = to $4.2 million a year in the NBA and you act like it's nothing. It's actually quite a bit more than his NBA contract would pay him. Also, if you actually followed Spanish basketball you would know that Real's budget for this year has been significantly increased.

I am NOT saying he is going to Real Madrid at all. I am just saying it's where the comments from his dad came from that he might go back to Spain.

[KWSN-Men]

Learn something and stop being ignorant. 6 million euros net is what they offered him. That = a $17-$18 million NBA contract. And you just earned an ignore.

Firstable, there's not such offer. You live in an imaginary world. Hey, I would love that you shared your experiences with us. Is it made of chocolate?

And second, the euro is not worth 1.6 dollars at this moment.

You fail at math. In Europe it is net. In the NBA your taxes and agent fees come out of the contract. State taxes, plus federal taxes, plus agent fees, plus exchange rate. That means that offer is worth the same as a $17-$18 million NBA contract. If you actually were from Spain you would know that.

[tvwolves7]

Real madrid is the same franchise that payed 68 million euros for Kakà, and 93 million for Cristiano Ronaldo...

and this has nothing to do with basketball club Real Madrid. Their entire budget was around 35 million $ this year, they ain't paying almost half of that for one player.

Real MAdrid as Barcelona are vert particular clubs... they are larger clubs that include more sports with the same ownership. So Perez is also president of the basketball department of the club.. He has already taken Messina as coach, and Velickovic(outstanding young europeane player).. He has all the money he wants-

I will be brutally honest that I know of Real Madrid and their Yankee spending for soccer players, but you have to realize that they are also a business. These people did not get where they are at by spending more then what comes in.

As a business, no company would make an investment where they are spending nearly half of their revenue on 1/12 of their team, not including coaching cost, stadium cost, travel, etc.

But in the end, stranger things have happened but rationally the amount of cash that is being thrown out there is reaching.

[Genjuro]

Real madrid is the same franchise that payed 68 million euros for Kakà, and 93 million for Cristiano Ronaldo...

They could easily pay for Rubio if they want.. The society is the same for many sports including basketball and football.. President Florentino Perez thinks is god, and has apparently illimited funds..

Real Madrid is mainly a soccer team. They can pay $130 million for a soccer player because the soccer team generates over $400 million per year.

The thing is, their basketball budget last season has been something like $25 million, and they could only generate something like a third part of that amount.

So, yes, they have the money, and they could pay all that money for Rubio, just as they could give $50 million to the first dude the team president finds in the street. But it won't happen.

Real Madrid could make an investment and pay the buyout, given that Rubio is a highly marketeable guy, but his salary would be moderate. I'm guessing something like $1-1.5 million net.

Well your guess is a guess. The rumored offer was 3 a year. Still 1.5 a year would be = to $4.2 million a year in the NBA and you act like it's nothing. It's actually quite a bit more than his NBA contract would pay him. Also, if you actually followed Spanish basketball you would know that there budget for this year has been significantly increased.

I am NOT saying he is going to Real Madrid at all. I am just saying it's where the comments from his dad came from that he might go back to Spain.

Wow, I didn't know you have to pay 65% in taxes in the USA. And anyway, it's half the amount you posted earlier. Hilarious as usual.

P.S.: I thought I was in your ignore list. Glad to see you around.

[KWSN-Men]

I will be brutally honest that I know of Real Madrid and their Yankee spending for soccer players, but you have to realize that they are also a business. These people did not get where they are at by spending more then what comes in.

As a business, no company would make an investment where they are spending nearly half of their revenue on 1/12 of their team, not including coaching cost, stadium cost, travel, etc.

But in the end, stranger things have happened but rationally the amount of cash that is being thrown out there is reaching.

Apparently you know absolutely nothing about European basketball.

[KWSN-Men]

Wow, I didn't know you have to pay 65% in taxes in the USA. And anyway, it's half the amount you posted earlier. Hilarious as usual.

P.S.: I thought I was in your ignore list. Glad to see you around.

You clearly FAIL at math, BADLY.

[tvwolves7]

I will be brutally honest that I know of Real Madrid and their Yankee spending for soccer players, but you have to realize that they are also a business. These people did not get where they are at by spending more then what comes in.

As a business, no company would make an investment where they are spending nearly half of their revenue on 1/12 of their team, not including coaching cost, stadium cost, travel, etc.

But in the end, stranger things have happened but rationally the amount of cash that is being thrown out there is reaching.

Apparently you know absolutely nothing about European basketball.

I know something about business and economics which obviously you do not.

Lastly I stated its not impossible to happen that they pay him a large sum, but if you look at each individual team as its own business it makes very little sense. As an example, you have a large company such as GE who own tons of small sub companies they do not take funds from one company and overspend in another. Each company must take their own revenue and work within their own P&L sheets. If Real Madrid wants to go outside of that business plan, so be it, but it is not a great business practice.

[Tirion]

Just so you guys know the reason this is coming up is because Real Madrid made him a huge offer. They would pay his entire buyout and then pay him $17 million over the next 2 seasons. Then after that he would go to the NBA. This is not in the least bit impossible as Real Madrid is the richest sports club in the world.

you're full of ****. let's see: rubio's buyout = 4.7 million euro that's about 6.5 million $. so you're sayin that Real will pay 17+6.5=23.5 million $ for two-year rental of Rubio? That's 8.5 million euro for a year! Nobody in Europe is geting that kind of money:

08/09 Salaries Top 5

Josh Childress - Olympiacos - 4.500.000
Theodoros Papaloukas - Olympiacos - 3.500.000
Sarunas Jasikevicius - Panathinaikos - 3.500.000
Bostjan Nachbar - Dynamo Moscow - 3.200.000*
Jorge Garbajosa - Khimki Moscow - 3.000.000

http://www.in-the-game.org/?page_id=1322

take your **** somewhere else.

Learn something and stop being ignorant. 6 million euros net is what they offered him. That = a $17-$18 million NBA contract. And you just earned an ignore.

Provide a link to your outrageous offer or GTFO.

[Genjuro]

Learn something and stop being ignorant. 6 million euros net is what they offered him. That = a $17-$18 million NBA contract. And you just earned an ignore.

Firstable, there's not such offer. You live in an imaginary world. Hey, I would love that you shared your experiences with us. Is it made of chocolate?

And second, the euro is not worth 1.6 dollars at this moment.

You fail at math. In Europe it is net. In the NBA your taxes and agent fees come out of the contract. State taxes, plus federal taxes, plus agent fees, plus exchange rate. That means that offer is worth the same as a $17-$18 million NBA contract. If you actually were from Spain you would know that.

Agent fees are 4% and the average tax (including state taxes) is around 40%.

I'm gonna take your lower amount, 17 millon. It translates in 7 million euro net with current exchange rate. With the old 1.6 exchange rate is around 6 million.

Sorry dude. My math is ok. You shoud take a look at yours.

[Krapinsky]

On a non-annoying note:

I'm going to Barcelona next month. I wonder if I can track down Ricky or catch a basketball game? Any tips Spaniards?

[Genjuro]

Wow, I didn't know you have to pay 65% in taxes in the USA. And anyway, it's half the amount you posted earlier. Hilarious as usual.

P.S.: I thought I was in your ignore list. Glad to see you around.

You clearly FAIL at math, BADLY.

Learn to read. My 1.5 estimated salary was already in dollars.

[Zeitgeister]

Wow, I didn't know you have to pay 65% in taxes in the USA. And anyway, it's half the amount you posted earlier. Hilarious as usual.

P.S.: I thought I was in your ignore list. Glad to see you around.

You clearly FAIL at math, BADLY.

Learn to read. My 1.5 estimated salary was already in dollars.

Look at my sig. Is that really a guy you want to be arguing with?