ALL RUBIO TALK HERE

KWSN-Men · Post #201 » by **KWSN-Men** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:07 pm

Genjuro wrote:Please show me a link where it says that they have to pay half that amount to a lawyer and an accountant. I don't believe a word. Crap as usual.

Then another link for the 38.5% new federal rate. It's pretty amazing that I can't find anything on the web.

As for city taxes, they are very limited and they are deductible as well. Fact is they don't have to pay the very expensive Minnesota taxes for their full salary.

You know what? Gen, I am putting you on ignore again.

Genjuro · Post #202 » by **Genjuro** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:08 pm

KWSN-Men wrote:
tvwolves7 wrote:This website states otherwise on their salaries.

http://www.ballineurope.com/european-ba ... in-europe/

that is a fan website and is just totally made up. The budget was $70 million.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/sport ... owner.html

"Olympiacos, with a $70 million operating budget"

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But you are going to go with a fan's personal blog and fan website? Give me a break.

As if what an American newspaper said about European basketball was trustworthy at all...

tvwolves7 · Post #203 » by **tvwolves7** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:10 pm

KWSN-Men wrote:
tvwolves7 wrote:Hey you offered a link

You should just completely ignore what genjuro is telling you. trust me. Notice the other European fan was saying things totally different than he is? Also ballineurope.com and inthegame.org are FAN sites/FAN blogs. They are not official and have no information at all about things like club budgets. They are completely made up and don't know anything.

No you were on these forums when we had post about Pekovic. You stated that he had an extension offer for 7+ million a year and I asked if you had a link to a local spanish paper that had it in there and you would state, take my word and never gave anything to back your claim up with.

You offered a link for your $70,000,000 budget statement that is a good source. I can not argue that at all, just throwing in a jab that its the first I have seen. But you do realize that the highest spending euro team you claims entire budget is the NBA's salary cap.

Genjuro · Post #204 » by **Genjuro** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:11 pm

KWSN-Men wrote:
Genjuro wrote:Please show me a link where it says that they have to pay half that amount to a lawyer and an accountant. I don't believe a word. Crap as usual.

Then another link for the 38.5% new federal rate. It's pretty amazing that I can't find anything on the web.

As for city taxes, they are very limited and they are deductible as well. Fact is they don't have to pay the very expensive Minnesota taxes for their full salary.

You know what? Gen, I am putting you on ignore again.

Ha, ha, ha.

You're the man, dude.

Then again doing your best Houdini impersonation when it comes to prove stuff.

How much time will you have me in your ignore list this time? 5 seconds?

KWSN-Men · Post #205 » by **KWSN-Men** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:16 pm

tvwolves7 wrote:But you do realize that the highest spending euro team you claims entire budget is the NBA's salary cap.

No it's not. NBA salary cap is way lower than that. Check Larry Coon. Olympiacos would have paid luxury tax in the NBA.

tvwolves7 · Post #206 » by **tvwolves7** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:20 pm

KWSN-Men wrote:
tvwolves7 wrote:But you do realize that the highest spending euro team you claims entire budget is the NBA's salary cap.

No it's not. NBA salary cap is way lower than that. Check Larry Coon. Olympiacos would have paid luxury tax in the NBA.

My apologies I was thinking the the luxury tax

. The luxury tax is estimated at $70,000,000.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11713

casey · Post #207 » by **casey** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:21 pm

KWSN-Men wrote:Trust me.

Ya, trust this guy. He's got an IQ of 197.

dunkonu21 · Post #208 » by **dunkonu21** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:27 pm

omg you two are so annoying. Go argue somewhere else.

tvwolves7 · Post #209 » by **tvwolves7** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:31 pm

dunkonu21 wrote:omg you two are so annoying. Go argue somewhere else.

Did not intend to go on a tangent there.

dunkonu21 · Post #210 » by **dunkonu21** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:06 pm

Twolves I did not mean you. You're allowed to be annoying here. The other two are the ones acting like children.

shrink · Post #211 » by **shrink** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:24 pm

tvwolves7 posted this in another thread, and I thought it should go here to discourage all the lowball offers:

As proof, Kahn said three NBA executives called Friday to inquire about Rubio's availability. One, according to Kahn, named a player on his team who was untouchable and told Kahn to pick any other two players on the roster in exchange for Rubio's rights.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolve ... page=2&c=y

tvwolves7 · Post #212 » by **tvwolves7** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:27 pm

shrink wrote:tvwolves7 posted this in another thread, and I thought it should go here to discourage all the lowball offers:

As proof, Kahn said three NBA executives called Friday to inquire about Rubio's availability. One, according to Kahn, named a player on his team who was untouchable and told Kahn to pick any other two players on the roster in exchange for Rubio's rights.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolve ... page=2&c=y

Ah thanks Shrink, I should have posted it here as well.

shrink · Post #213 » by **shrink** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:33 pm

Hey - I appreciate the find! I hadn't read that yet! Thanks!

Tirion · Post #214 » by **Tirion** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:39 pm

Anyone wanna bet that that team was Knicks, the untouchable player was Gallinari and the Wolves said: "no, thanks"?

tvwolves7 · Post #215 » by **tvwolves7** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:56 pm

Tirion wrote:Anyone wanna bet that that team was Knicks, the untouchable player was Gallinari and the Wolves said: "no, thanks"?

Probably is the Knicks, but it shows that a player such as Barbosa alone is too low. Either way, let's be patient just like our FO is doing and see where this goes.

Personally, I think Kahn is being very smart in saying he can wait for another season or two. Kahn is doing Fegan/Rubio a favor in saying he can wait because that gives them a bargaining chip in negotiations with the spanish government to get paid. As linked below his buyout is the property of the spanish government. Their government can either negotiate to get some large sum of money or not negotiate and allow millions to slip through their fingers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4246467

Krapinsky · Post #216 » by **Krapinsky** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:00 pm

Tirion wrote:Anyone wanna bet that that team was Knicks, the untouchable player was Gallinari and the Wolves said: "no, thanks"?

I'll take that bet.

The only team that can be rules out is the Knicks. Kahn said so himself. Plus, this story broke before the "Walsh to call Timberwolves about Rubio" story (if you call that a story)

On a sidenote: How annoying is it that anything at all that has NY in the title becomes headline news. If it was "Bird to call Wolves about Rubio," there would be no story. Problem is, in the internet age, whatever gets the most hits goes to the top. Anything with NY in it gets a lot of hits. Someone should be in charge of weeding out all the NY b.s. so as to prevent all the hysteria we had to deal with yesterday for no reason.

Vega06 · Post #217 » by **Vega06** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:01 pm

Am I the only one that doesn't mind trading Rubio for a good wing and roll with Flynn as our stud PG?

MagnusPinus · Post #218 » by **MagnusPinus** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:04 pm

Vega06 wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't mind trading Rubio for a good wing and roll with Flynn as our stud PG?

Exactly the point.. It is pointless to keep both. Wilson is that good wing :lol:

Krapinsky · Post #219 » by **Krapinsky** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:05 pm

Vega06 wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't mind trading Rubio for a good wing and roll with Flynn as our stud PG?

Rubio has too much value. He's too unique. We haven't had the opportunity to draft a player like him for 14 years (KG). I'm not waiting another 14 years. I will be very, very displeased if we trade him for anything short of Lebron, Wade, Howard, or Paul.

tvwolves7 · Post #220 » by **tvwolves7** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:06 pm

MagnusPinus wrote:
Vega06 wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't mind trading Rubio for a good wing and roll with Flynn as our stud PG?

Exactly the point.. It is pointless to keep both. Wilson is that good wing

Vega06 I would rather not trade him but would not be apposed if there was an offer that made sense. As of right now majority of offers that people are throwing out there are laughable.