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How Will The Cavs Roster Fill Out?

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Post#21 » by Rise Against » Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:27 am

B Mac wrote:I'll go a little off the wall here.

Something Id keep my eye on is what the Rockets do this offseason. Yao looks like hes going to be out for almost all of next season, TMac is always injured and wearing down, and the rest of the team isnt good enough to mean much. With Artest being a FA this offseason I could see the Cavs making a serious run at him. It would probably take a sign and trade of Andy and maybe someone like Boobie or picks, but putting him in the 2 spot sure does make us ridiculously tough on D. Then we sign a PF for the MLE like Villanueva or Rasheed and sign someone like Anthony Parker for the BAE and Joe Smith for the minimum and we are looking all set.

Mo/Delonte
Artest/Parker
LeBron/Green
Villanueva/Joe Smith/Hickson
Shaq/Z/Jackson

That would be championship easily.
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Post#22 » by 1bhcavsfan » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:32 pm

Liking the Sheed idea over CV just a little due to the fact that Shaq/Z can't defend the pick & roll. Other than that I prefer G.Hill but Barnes is fine, don't offer Andy a taxi ride to rhe airport let him walk. Re-tool with the following yr with Bosh & a dark horse maybe {haven't heard this guys name to much Jeff Green} Him and Durant will be FA IN 2010 don't think they can commit to both. Green is going to be a player in this league
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Post#23 » by LeQuitterNotMVP » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:39 pm

1bhcavsfan wrote:Liking the Sheed idea over CV just a little due to the fact that Shaq/Z can't defend the pick & roll. Other than that I prefer G.Hill but Barnes is fine, don't offer Andy a taxi ride to rhe airport let him walk. Re-tool with the following yr with Bosh & a dark horse maybe {haven't heard this guys name to much Jeff Green} Him and Durant will be FA IN 2010 don't think they can commit to both. Green is going to be a player in this league

A) I'm not sure why everyone wants to let Andy walk. He's very valuable off of the bench, and better yet, he's YOUNG!

B) Durant and Green were drafted in 2007, so they will be RFAs in 2011.
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Post#24 » by B Mac » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:37 pm

Charlie V seems like more and more of a lock with each post on his Twitter.
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Post#25 » by 1bhcavsfan » Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:11 am

Your 1/2 right they will be restricted, however I doubled checked & they both are up the same yr as LB & D. West although restricted. So that's what I mean by OKC not being able to give both of them a big payday. Us on the other hand we should have only 5 players under contract not including LB Max and maybe CV if we pick him up. As far as Andy is concern I like Andy maybe I should have been less demeaning but if I have to choose between CV OR Rasheed I have to go with letting Andy walk. Perfect world we could keep Andy
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Post#26 » by LeQuitterNotMVP » Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:18 am

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... hunder.jsp

And West's contract expires in 2011 as well.
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Post#27 » by 1bhcavsfan » Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:07 am

My bad
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Post#28 » by Gordon Bombay » Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:24 am

hopefully villanueva and barnes...and i guess andy
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Post#29 » by Roger Murdock » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:17 am

Danny Green makes the team. We resign Varejao and Smith. We give the MLE to kidd or rasheed. We fill the roster with low cost scrubs. Done.
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Post#30 » by mg » Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:32 pm

I guess I'm the only one who isn't sold on Villanueva. Even the Bucks are hesitant to bring CV back. Yes he can score but is he the answer defensively playing next to Shaq?

I would be just as pleased if the Cavs sign Channing Frye. Yes we know Frye is a big softy but he can fill in at center or PF and does have a nice little mid range jump shot. With so many open roster spots the Cavs could split up the MLE between Frye and a SG like Anthony Parker and still have the BAE to give to a veteran PG or swing player (ie Barnes?) who wants to chase a ring with Shaq and LeBron.
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Post#31 » by starboy1 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:18 am

[b]Paul Harris[b] will show strong defense in the summer league and will get the 11th or 12th spot, at the league minimum and be happy to be a CAV
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Post#32 » by starboy1 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:25 pm

Sorry for that midnight post....now the rational why Paul Harris gets that 11th or 12th roster spot.

The consensus on him is that he does not have an NBA position. He can't handle the ball well enough to play PG, can't shoot the 3 well enough to be a SG, is too short to play forward....which explains both why he was not drafted and will not fill the depth chart 1st or 2nd for any NBA team.

He's a 22 year old junior from Syracuse Univ, only 6'3" but with a 6'11" wingspan and a standing 36" vertical, has a freaky defensive reach...and defensively is an "in your face" defender.

At the 5/26 pre-combine ATTACK Athletics workout according to Draft Express: "Out of all the players here, Paul Harris may have left the best impression on us relative to our expectations going in. Harris is incredibly impressive from a physical standpoint first and foremost, boasting a chiseled frame, strong athleticism and extremely long arms, but he also looked pretty good from a skills standpoint as well.
...but it’s pretty safe to say that no one is going to sign him for what he does on the offensive end of the floor.

Defensively is where Harris really shined, showing absolute lock-down ability on anyone he was asked to guard, and really making his presence felt with his combination of toughness and tenacity. The theme of this year’s NBA playoffs for us probably is just how incredibly physical the games are, and if there was any player that embodied that spirit in this gym, it was Harris. Mike Procopio compares him to the likes of Tony Allen and DeShawn Stevenson, and after seeing him in action in this setting, it wasn’t hard to see why.

It will be interesting to see what the reaction is to Harris once he starts making the rounds for private workouts. It’s not tough to see some NBA coach falling in love with what he could bring to practice day in and day out, and the success of players like Dahntay Jones this season could help Harris out.
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At Syracuse in the 16 team Big East, although only 6'3" he was 12th overall in rebounding over taller players, and most of his boards weren't even close.

Not invited to the combine, but at the NJ Group workout on 6/15...in a group containing Eric Maynor, Jimmy Baron, Chase Budinger, Joe Ingles, A.J. Priceand Paul Harris.......Comments from observers in the gym:

“Paul Harris may have helped himself the most I thought here. He plays so hard. He got in everyone’s face. No one wanted to go against him. On offense and defense. “Chase Budinger...you should have seen his face when he was switched onto Paul Harris. He definitely didn’t want anything to do with him." btw...after that Budinger did zip zero

Some of us thought Budinger would have been a good choice for SG to spread the floor for the Cavs, but after NJ, Budinger disappeared. Harris wasn't drafted, but Cleveland offered him another private workout and he appeared asap playing for the Cavs in summer league.
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So I conjecture Harris gets spot 11 or 12 spot as a crunch time defender, something a playoff team absolutely wants one of on its bench.

btw outside of LeBron the Cavs guards tend I think to be fast and athletic, adding a tough, thick, in your face defender at guard (who can also gaurd forwards) might get "do-it-all" Paul a spot on the roster come opening tip off

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