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Re: And our future is.... 

Post#21 » by rsavaj » Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:11 am

Cash wrote:
rsavaj wrote:if this deal goes through and we get the "good" package(Curry, Beans, Wright, Beli) then we have a bright future imo.

Ordered by age:

PG: Goran(23), Curry(21)
SG: Barbosa(26), Beli(23)
SF: Tucker(25), Dudley(23), Clark(21)
PF: Amundson(26), Griffin(23), Wright(21)
C: Beans(23), Lopez(21)

Nash/Hill don't count as "the future", and i'd prefer not to see J-Rich on the roster :lol:


No offense, but seeing it in black and white like that is very depressing. Out of all those dudes, exactly 2 are proven NBA starters, and that's counting Barbosa. I like Dudley & Amundsen, but they're backups at best. Dragic, Tucker, and Lopez haven't shown for sure that they can even be quality backups. It's not too late for Wright, but he looks like a bust so far, and Bellinelli pretty much is a confirmed bust. Then that leaves the rookies, none of whom are sure things. Yikes. If that's what goes down, we'd better hope Curry develops into a star, because he's the only guy you could build around.


i think Dude can be a starter in this league. i think Tragic and Lopez can be quality backups. Beli's shown some great signs and he's quite young yet so i wouldn't call him a bust; same goes w/ Wright
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Re: And our future is.... 

Post#22 » by delsol650 » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:14 am

Beans is the key component in any trade with the dubs.

In the last couple months Belli was playing the BEST D of any warrior player. That speaks loudy in a Don Nelson coached team. He was also backing up at PG when Tay was resting, during the Crawford fiasco etc.

Wright still needs time to develop. Nelson never gave him the time of day.
Azu, good defender, 2nd in 3pt pct, good rebounder but can be a blackhole IMO. but should play SG not moslty SF/PF in nelson's system.

We can give you speedy's injury contract which is 80% covered by insurance, I doubt he's playing anymore. We can also trade Acie Law whom we picked up in the crawford trade.
We have CJ watson for cheap to offer.
We can also offer Mags and or Jax.

You can forget about any trade getting Curry and especially Randolph.
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Re: And our future is.... 

Post#23 » by Cash » Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:26 pm

[quote="delsol650"]Beans is the key component in any trade with the dubs.

In the last couple months Belli was playing the BEST D of any warrior player. That speaks loudy in a Don Nelson coached team. He was also backing up at PG when Tay was resting, during the Crawford fiasco etc./quote]

So basically he was the tallest man at the midget convention?
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Re: And our future is.... 

Post#24 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:28 pm

Cash wrote:
delsol650 wrote:Beans is the key component in any trade with the dubs.

In the last couple months Belli was playing the BEST D of any warrior player. That speaks loudy in a Don Nelson coached team. He was also backing up at PG when Tay was resting, during the Crawford fiasco etc.


So basically he was the tallest man at the midget convention?


lol... That guy is reaching - really hard.
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Re: And our future is.... 

Post#25 » by Cash » Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:48 pm

rsavaj wrote:i think Dude can be a starter in this league. i think Tragic and Lopez can be quality backups. Beli's shown some great signs and he's quite young yet so i wouldn't call him a bust; same goes w/ Wright


I liked Dudley's play a lot last year, but he's really not a starter. Maybe he could be the 5th starter on a good team, but that's about it. Point is, he & Amundsen are role players and nothing more. Dragic and Lopez could become quality backups, or they could become solid starters, or they could become abject busts. Based on their 1 year in the league, we can't say what they'll become with any certainty. It looks like neither will ever be a star, but that's about it. NellieBelly is a role player at best, and while Wright still has some potential, he hasn't realized it yet. There's no one in that mix that you can build around. If I were Steve Nash, there's no way I'd consider signing an extension at this point. If he wants to be surrounded by nothing but stiffs and role players, why not just sign with the Knicks?
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Re: And our future is.... 

Post#26 » by Cash » Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:03 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
Cash wrote:
delsol650 wrote:Beans is the key component in any trade with the dubs.

In the last couple months Belli was playing the BEST D of any warrior player. That speaks loudy in a Don Nelson coached team. He was also backing up at PG when Tay was resting, during the Crawford fiasco etc.


So basically he was the tallest man at the midget convention?


lol... That guy is reaching - really hard.


And there's no need for it. The Warriors are trying to completely rip off the Suns in this trade. And why shouldn't they? Every team should try to get as much as they possibly can in any trade, while giving as little as possible. And the Suns have shown repeatedly that they can be taken advantage of. There's no need to sugarcoat it. Based on recent history, I think that ultimately, the Warriors will hold their ground, and the Suns will wind up just taking what the Warriors have left on the table. Maybe they'll ask for a conditional 2nd round pick to be thrown in or something.
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