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The Offseason thread 

Post#1 » by the southern dandy » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:07 pm

As the draft is now over and free agency is about to begin I felt an offseason thread would be a good place to talk about all the possible outcomes and directions which the Spurs can take. Below will be my views of the offseason.

My impressions of the Draft

#37 - Dejuan Blair

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It would be redundant of me to gush about how much of a steal Blair was on draft night. The bottom line is that Blair is a talented big man who should be a rotation player once the season has started. His strong, physical play also adds a much needed dimension to the front court. The drafting of Blair has taken a lot of pressure off the Spurs front office heading into free agency

#51 - Jack McClintion

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The Blair hype that has swept through the Spurs nation has lead to McClinton being overlooked. He's an immensely talented shooter in the mould of Eddie House. I've longed believed that a player like this could help fix the offensive droughts that plague the Spurs. He's energetic and remorseless, and the Spurs FO believe he is a very capable defender. Hopefully McClinton can be a spot player next season.

#53 - Nando De Colo

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He'll be a draft and stash for the forseable future. The Spurs appear to be set at point guard. I think playing with George Hill in the future could help mask some of De Colo's glaring defensive weaknesses. His playmaking and shooting could be very useful down the road.


Current Spurs

Tony Parker

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Tony has the majority of the point guard minutes stitched up. This is a major reason why I don't believe the Spurs need any more point guards on the roster. Hopefully Tony continues to improve as Duncan declines and the team is forced to rely moreso on him. There is almost no chance Tony Parker is traded.

Tim Duncan

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Despite his decline, Tim remains the most valuable player on this Spurs team. If the Spurs continue to make strides towards improving the talent of the roster, I think we'll see a revival in Tim Duncan's play. Last season he was often being called upon to complete the work of two men. Ideally, Duncan's minutes can be managed without the team suffering too badly. I see no circumstance where Duncan is traded.

Manu Ginobili

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The season before last we saw the most athletic and probably the best Manu Ginobili ever. I think it's far too early to write off Manu Ginobili as many ignorant posters have. Hopefully preseason shows us that he has recovered fully. With the addition of Jefferson, it would be advisable for Manu to remain in a Kevin Mchale supersub role. The Spurs will need a healthy Ginobili for the playoffs, so further limitation of his minutes may be necessary. At this point it seems clear that Manu will remain with the Spurs, however if the Spurs underachieve he may be moved.

Richard Jefferson

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On paper it appears that Jefferson is a perfect fit for the Spurs. He provides everything the Spurs have lacked at the small foward position, with the possible exceptions being rebounding and defense. In the past Jefferson has been a strong defender, hopefully with a smaller offensive role and the motivation of playing for a contender he can recapture this. While he has the physical tools, Jefferson has never been a particularly strong rebounder. Right now there is no way Jefferson gets traded, his value is simply too low in the open market.

Roger Mason

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I'm a huge Mason fan and I would like to think there's a significant role for him moving foward. I'm hoping that he's no longer asked to run the point again, because it really messed up his rhythm in the second half of the season. With the potential retirement of many of the team's shooters coupled with Manu's injury worries, the Spurs really need a player of Mason's quality in the rotation. I feel that there's a possibility he may be traded, but I'm hoping the Spurs manage to hold onto him.

George Hill

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I, like many Spurs fans, felt that George didn't receive a fair go of things last year. He played very well in the absence of Parker early in the season. One of the main reasons why I was happy with the Jefferson trade was because we didn't have to give up Hill. Based on the draft and front office statements it appears that the backup point guard role is Hill's to lose next year. Hill will only be traded if there is a chance to significantly improve the roster.

Matt Bonner

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Based on last year's play, it appears that Bonner doesn't have the mindset to be a part of a major championship rotation. Ideally Bonner could be packaged for some sort of front court upgrade. He was a starter last year and after the Jefferson trade the front court is very thin. One would have to believe that Pop would at least want some carry over heading into next year. Bonner's 3 point shooting makes him a useful player in the Spurs system, but his rebounding and defense are just too weak for him to play a major role.

Ian Mahinmi

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Physically Mahinmi appears to be exactly what the Spurs need in the front court. He's athletic and quite strong. Other than his strong all round numbers in D-league not much is known about his game. Mahinmi is the x factor to the Spurs success in the upcoming season. If he can stay healthy and find a way to contribute, the Spurs will be legitimate title contenders. I'm of the belief that this is essentially Mahinmi's last chance with the Spurs.


Future Roster Options

International Draft Prospects

James Gist

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After a strong summerleague performance last year, and a solid season in Italy where he appeared to continue his improvement on the perimeter it appears that Gist is headed to the Spurs. It's hard to fathom whether or not he'll receive a guaranteed roster spot. With the Spurs lack of size on the perimeter, he could be a nice defensive backup. At the very worst he could be an incredibly athletic small ball four with passable three point shooting.

Robertas Javtokas

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Javtokas would be an excellent 5th big in the Spurs rotation. He's known to be an athletic player and a quality defender. His offensive game is poor and he appears to have little interest in signing with the Spurs

Tiago Splitter

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Not much needs to be said here. He's the Spurs ideal centre next to Tim Duncan. Splitter should be decent on offense and very strong defensively. Rebounding remains a slight question mark. He is signed in Europe through to the end of 2010, so barring any miracles he does not appear to be a viable option this summer.

Vicktor Sanikidze

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He was once considered to be an ideal defensive wing for the Spurs. He has all the tools physically and athletically. His one summer league appearance left many Spurs fans eager to see more of him. Sanikidze has largely remained a mystery since being drafted in 2004. His frequent injuries and inability to put on muscle continue to hold him back. If he doesn't appear in summer league this year it will be a clear sign that the Spurs have moved on.

Sergei Karulov

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This wire thin Russian seven footer was drafted as a late second rounder in 2004. He plays in a low level Russian domestic team and has been unimpressive during his summerleague stints with the Spurs. It's safe to say that he has almost no chance to ever make a Spurs team.


Spurs Free Agents

Drew Gooden

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Gooden showed some decent things last year with the Spurs, particularly early in his stint. His offensive reboudning and post scoring could make him very useful with the second unit. He will remain limited by his low bball IQ and defensive inadequacies. The Spurs do need big men, and this will make him an option by default. The Spurs should sign him as a second option after attempting to find a better fit with the MLE. The FO would be wise to let him test his market value before committing any money to him.

Jacque Vaughn

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There should be no reason for the Spurs to sign Jacque Vaughn. He's past his prime and wasn't that talented to begin with. His leadership could be useful, so perhaps bringing him back in a coaching capacity wouldn't be a bad idea.

Ime Udoka

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Ime was pretty horrible for most of the season. He showed some great toughness on the perimeter and was a decent three point shooter. Udoka appeared to slow down last year, and this does not bode well for a defensive specialist, especially one who is as athletically limited as Ime. He also never really seemed to fully grasp the Spurs offense. As a fifth wing Udoka would be decent, but I'd prefer the Spurs to look elsewhere.
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#2 » by DBMethos » Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:27 pm

This is indeed an exciting time for Spurs fans. The Jefferson trade, the great draft, Manu's determination to come back 100% healthy...if we land 'Sheed or 'Dyess, it will probably go down as the best offseason ever (not including the ones where we got David and Tim, of course).
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#3 » by the southern dandy » Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:46 pm

Later on I'm going to write about some of the Spurs free agent options. Below is a quick list of who I'm going to mention:

I'll be starting with unrestricted options.

*Jarron Collins - minimum contract
*Cedric Simmons - minimum contract
*Shavlick Randolph - minimum contract
*Matt Barnes - minimum contract
*Grant Hill - minimum contract/LLE
*Theo Ratlif - minimum contract
*Adonal Foyle - minimum contract
*Robert Swift - minimum contract
*Chris Wilcox - MLE contract
*Jason Collins - minimum contract
*Rodney Carney - minimum contract/ LLE
*Shelden Williams - minimum contract/ LLE
*Jamal Magloire - minimum contract
*Chris Mihm - minimum contract
*Trevor Ariza - MLE contract
*Brian Skinner - minimum contract
*Rasho Nesterovic - LLE contract
*Rasheed Wallace - MLE contract
*Antonio Mcdyess - MLE contract
*Dahntay Jones - LLE/ partial MLE
*Chris Anderson - partial MLE
*Brandon Bass - Partial MLE
*Gerald Green - minimum contract
*Anderson Varejao - MLE contract
*Joe Smith - minimum contract
*Sean May - minimum contract
*Zaza Pachulia - LLE/ partial MLE
*Mikki Moore - minimum contract
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#4 » by bishopospurs » Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:54 pm

Great work guys!! That is a lot of info. Usually I hate the first of the month because of bills and what not, but I am so pumped about Wednesday. I can't wait to see what happens. The thing about last off season is we had everyone guaranteed for two years or so, and we ate poop with some of our guys falling off a season earlier than we thought they would. This season the spurs have holes that need filling. :oops:

I really wish Splitter would come over, it is seriously frustrating to have a guy many people think can contribute and won't come over. Its like Jozy Altidore in American soccer getting an offer to go to Manchester United or Barcelona. Who would turn that down? Ginobli played for 1,325,000 his first year and then 1,543,500 his second. He was champion overseas and I doubt he regrets that decision. Splitter needs to freaking get over himself and prove he deserves to be in the NBA.

I expect Finley to opt in and hang 2.5 mil on the books. Can we trade him? I would rather not see Udoka or Vaughan back either. If I have a choice to see Rasheed or Dice for the MLE or break it up and get two players I almost prefer two players. If we brought in Matt Barnes and Chris Anderson that would be better than one of the other. But I doubt those Matt Barnes will be had at the minimum like the list suggest. Anderson will get offered more than he is worth, though he has some nice game, NBA teams over pay for tall guys who play well in the playoffs right before free agency. This is how the roster would look.

C- Anderson/Bonner/Mahinmi
PF- Duncan/Blair/Mahinmi
SF- Jefferson/Barnes
SG- Mason/Ginobli/MicClinton
PG- Parker/Hill/McClinto
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#5 » by Ballings7 » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:37 pm

I've been out of the loop, just found out we drafted Blair - Yes! I thought he'd be gone for sure, he's the kind of big guy we needed! Well overdue, but finally (Ian not really getting into the swing until this year as well), we have our athletic, sizeable big men.

McClinton I haven't seen, but sounds like a nice role-playing prospect that would be key on a team's bench.

I think this is our best draft in awhile, lol

Quite interested to see what we do the rest of the off-season
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Post#6 » by the southern dandy » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:57 am

Unrestricted Free Agent Options

I will write about each player and state the ideal contract for them. Like every offseason there will be overpaid players. I'm hoping the Spurs stay within these realms contract wise.

*Jarron Collins - minimum contract
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Jarron is the definition of solid but unspectacular. He's known to be a solid defensive player and a reasonably smart player. The problem here is that he completely lacks talent and skill. I wouldn't mind Collins as a deep reserve type player at a minimum contract.

*Cedric Simmons - minimum contract
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Simmons hasn't really done much of anything so far in his NBA career. Unless the Spurs give up on Mahinmi completely there just isn't enough room for another raw, anthletic player.

*Shavlick Randolph - minimum contract
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Randolph was very decent a few years ago for Philly. Unfortunately injuries have been a major problem for him. I'd rather the Spurs look elsewhere, even for roster filler.

*Matt Barnes - minimum contract
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On paper Barnes would appear to be a nice fit for the Spurs. His recent inability to stick with any teams on the long term has got me worried however. I don't think he has the skill and discipline to fit in with SA. If he becomes available for the minimum he would make a solid backup to RJ. The MLE and LLE should be used for bigmen at this point.

*Grant Hill - minimum contract/LLE
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Hill could be a very nice backup for RJ if he came on board for the minimum. I'd avoid spending more money than that because his skills would somewhat redundant on this roster, and I'd rather stay away from ancient players.

*Theo Ratliff - minimum contract
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For an IR big I think Ratliff would be quite decent. Despite his advanced age he still supplies quality shotblocking, which has been a major area of concern for the Spurs. The rest of his game appears to have fallen off however.

*Adonal Foyle - minimum contract
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Foyle would be a nice deep reserve to pick up at the minimum if the Spurs continue to bolster their youth elsewhere. Adonal is a class act, a solid defender and rebounder. His size and defense make him decent, but his footspeed and complete lack of offense are worrying.

*Robert Swift - minimum contract
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With the Spurs going all out to win now it's hard to imagine how Robert Swift could fit in. He's still quite raw and remains very injury prone. He could be a role of the dice roster filler player, but with Mahinmi and Blair being unproven it is hard to see the Spurs going in this direction.

*Chris Wilcox - MLE contract
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He's probably the most physically talented big man available, but he is also the biggest underachiever. His complete lack of drive, offensive polish and basketball IQ are major causes for concern. Unless Wilcox can be had for a bargain I'd rather the Spurs look elsewhere for a starting big.

*Jason Collins - minimum contractImage
He's a slightly worse version of his twin. Once again solid but unspectacular, and probably too unathletic for the Spurs to really consider. If he ends up on the Spurs roster something has gone very wrong.

*Rodney Carney - minimum contract/ LLE
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I like Carney as a backup small foward. He's a great athlete and has improved a bit offensively. His bball IQ is atrocious but he won't be asked to do much. I'd love for the Spurs to find a way to fit him in for a low cost.

*Shelden Williams - minimum contract/ LLE
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Williams could be a nice under the radar way to bolster the front court. His rebounding numbers were fantastic last year and he's still young enough to realise his potential as a defensive stopper. I like him as an LLE option.

*Jamaal Magloire - minimum contract
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The only thing Jamaal offers the Spurs right now is size. He's definitely not on my list of priorities. He's aging, poor defensively and lazy. Hopefully the Spurs avoid Mags.

*Chris Mihm - minimum contract
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Mihm's career has appeared to be completely derailed by injuries. Before this he was actually a solid starting big man with athleticism. He'd be a nice option as big man insurance, provided he's gotten over his injury problems

*Trevor Ariza - MLE contract
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Before the RJ trade Ariza would have been one of my main preferences. He's a great defender and athlete. Ariza also continues to improve offensively. His price would be far too high to simply back up RJ, and the Lakers appear unlikely to let him walk.

*Brian Skinner - minimum contract
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A solid defender and big man. Probably a bit too slow at this point. Appears to be a mediocre option as a 5th or 6th big.

*Rasho Nesterovic - LLE contract
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Rasho would be my ideal second tier big this offseason, if he's attainable for the LLE. He's a good quality defender and shotblocker. He also possesses a great deal of skill offensively. He's too slow at this point to pair with Duncan, but he'd make a good anchor for the second team.

*Rasheed Wallace - MLE contract
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Rasheed is a pretty strong option to fill the starting position in SA. A few years ago this would have really excited me, but his recent play has been underwhelming. Offensively he'd fit nicely next to Duncan with his ability to stretch the floor. While he remains a solid defensive player, his footspeed has fallen off dramatically. Anything more than a season or two is too much for Rasheed.

*Antonio Mcdyess - MLE contract
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Mcdyess is by far the best rebounder available and has a nice midrange game to compliment Duncan. His personality is far less of a concern than Wallace, but he doesn't provide the same size and overall talent. At his age I'd hope the Spurs attempt to keep there offer short on years. Mcdyess would definitely be a solid fit as a starter.

*Dahntay Jones - LLE/ partial MLE
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I really like the intensity Jones brang on defense this season. He was ferocious and athletic. With his limited offensive game, the arrival of RJ and the fact that this has been his only noteable season, I'd be inclined to avoid digging into the MLE for him. If he could be had for the LLE he would be a fantastic addition. There just isn't enough money to go around this offseason, and I can't see how the Spurs could pry Jones away from Denver.

*Chris Anderson - partial MLE
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I'll admit it, I completely fell in love with Anderson's game whilst watching him during the playoffs. His shotblocking and athleticism alone has the potential to vastly boost the Spurs defense. Thinking logically, there are still many question marks regarding his age, offense, consistency and personality. I'd be extremely happy if the Spurs could use a large portion of the MLE on Anderson whilst luring another solid big with the rest. Denver appears to be quite happy with him though.

*Brandon Bass - Partial MLE
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Bass is certainly a solid player, but I really think the Spurs need more size in the frontcourt. With Blair coming on board the front court may be too undersized. Bass would certainly provide athleticism, energy and a solid jumpshot. I'd rather the Spurs look in another direction first, but I'd be happy with Bass as a fall back option as a starting big candidate.

*Gerald Green - minimum contract
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Want athleticism? Gerald Green is the absolute pinacle of it. His game has more holes than swiss cheese, but for a roster filler wing the Spurs could do worse. He addresses a few needs and is still young enough to at least provide us hope of improvement. Anything more than the minimum would be ridiculous.

*Anderson Varejao - MLE contract
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Varejao is probably the best overall defender that we could afford on this list. He's a smart positional defender and he plays with a lot of energy. He was also rumoured to have a solid J when he was drafted. If the Spurs were to sign this young/ defensive minded big man it would signify a return to defensive play, which I would personally welcome.

*Joe Smith - minimum contract
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Solid midrange game and passable defense. A passable option as a 5th or 6th big man, but I'd rather the Spurs went younger here. His lack of shotblocking would limit his usefulness.

*Sean May - minimum contract
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As a roster filler Sean May would be redundant at this point. Not only is he out of shape and constantly injured, but his talents appear to be duplicated by Dejuan Blair. There's absolutely no reason for him to be on the Spurs roster next season.

*Zaza Pachulia - LLE/ partial MLE
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Pachulia is a reasonably mobile big man who can rebound and score in the post a bit. He's also pretty big, which is a considerable plus. His poor defense and limited shooting range are significant redflags. With those weaknesses Id' rather not see him paired with Duncan as a starter. He could be a steal for a portion of the MLE.

*Mikki Moore - minimum contract
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I'd hope the Spurs avoid looking at this guy. He's a marginal deep bench talent at this point and his talents would be somewhat redundant in SA. His midrange J could prove useful. I'd rather have an Adonal Foyle type as veteran big man insurance.

*Charlie Villanueva - MLE contract
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Offensively Charlie V is the most talented player on the list. He can score from all over the floor and has solid range. His lack of intensity and committment on the defensive end of the floor could be problematic. Physically he has some tools to work with in this area and if Pop felt he could work with him I'd be able to get behind this signing. Villanueva is a typical high risk, high reward signing.
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Post#7 » by SMRattler » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:13 am

Rasho FTW!!!!

And McClintion keeps the Spurs from having to pay a penalty for not meeting the league minimum for team tattoos.
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#8 » by NashtyNas » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:54 am

Even though I hate the Spurs, I must commend your FO for the work done ALREADY this offseason. They turned pure sh*t into Jefferson, and they got 2 steals in the draft + stowed away a good pick for the future. I think they will resign Gooden, and go after Rasho/Dyess + sign Grant Hill. That leave's you with an amazing team that would at least get to the WCF pretty easily..

Parker/George Hill/McClinton
Mason/Manu/McClinton
Jefferson/Hill/Finley
Blair/Gooden/Bonner
Duncan/Rasho/Bonner
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Post#9 » by bishopospurs » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:12 pm

Southern Dandy, that is a lot of work, thanks for going through the trouble. Are you leaving off restricted free agents, I noticed a few guys that intrigue me missing from your post. Mehmet Okur, Jamario Moon, and Gortat. Also a few UF's that interest me I didn't see, Channing Frye, Stromile Swift, and maybe even Desmond Mason.

All the guys I am pretty serious about you put on the list. I am really interested in Robert Swift, he is only 23 and has been plagued by injury, but if the front office gives him a contract that would mean they think he is beyond that which could be a steal in this free agency period. I like the youth movement and I don't mind bringing in someone as young as Swift. I would be down for Chris Anderson too, but I think Denver is going to retain him.
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Post#10 » by the southern dandy » Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:41 am

^^^^^
I'm going to do the restricted free agents soon.

In all honesty I haven't seen Swift play a whole lot. I'm basing my opinions based on a lack of production, chances and injury problems.
What are your thoughts on his game bishopospurs?
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Post#11 » by bishopospurs » Wed Jul 1, 2009 4:24 am

I agree with you on swift. He is injury prone, I see him as a younger taller version of chris anderson. Should the spurs sign him that means they think he can contribute now, and that alone would make me really really excited. 23 year old, 7'1 above the rim rebounder. Here are the guys I am most excited about.
PF/C- Sheed, Dice, Swift, Anderson, Shelden Williams, Charlie V
SF- Barnes, Moon, Green
Any combination of those guys would have me really really happy. I would also like to see Finley traded now that he is signed on for the long haul. How about Finley for Adam Morrison? Though I doubt the Lakers would be into it.
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Post#12 » by bishopospurs » Wed Jul 1, 2009 5:35 am

Add walter hermann to my cheap free agent wish list. He can shoot, knows Ginobli, and is a big three and can guard some 4's. Though D isn't his strong suite necessarily.
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Post#13 » by the southern dandy » Wed Jul 1, 2009 7:57 am

Restricted Free Agent Options

Due to the difficulty of attaining restricted free agents this list will be filled with players who could be high priority or largely unwanted by their current teams. Unrealistic options from a financial standpoint will also be left off the list, ie 'Millsap and Lee'.

Pops Mensah Bonsu
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Bonsu was a pretty strong player in his brief stint with the Spurs. He brings a high amount of energy and athleticism. However he isn't big enough or skilled enough to warrant a contract that would prevent Toronto from matching.

Ike Diogu
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Diogu is a good scorer around the hoop and has decent amount of talent. His understanding of the game is in question and his defense is weak. He could probably be pried away from Sacramento for a decent offer, but I'd rather the Spurs look elsewhere unless the Kings renounce his rights.

Marcin Gortat
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I'd be extatic if the Spurs found a way to land Gortat. I watched him play quite a lot during the playoffs and he appears to be exactly what the team needs defensively. Despite being very limited offensively he appears to have quality footspeed and knows his limitations. Orlando has stated that they won't go over 5 million to keep him. If the Spurs choose to take a risk, this is the way I'd like them to go.

Joel Anthony
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He's a strong defender but atrocious offensively. There's no way the Spurs tie up any legitimate money with him as a restricted free agent however. If he's overlooked in the offseason he could make a solid last minute addition.

Jamario Moon
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Moon would be an ideal backup small foward for the Spurs. However, he'd likely get an expanded role elsewhere and Miami is likely to match any reasonable offer for his services. His athleticism is freakish and his defense is solid.

Hakim Warrick
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Warrick could be an option if the Spurs decide to look towards full time small ball. His offensive skills and athleticism would compliment Duncan nicely. His tweener status is a major issue defensively. I personally hope the Spurs decide to go for a more traditional front court partner for Duncan.

Linas Kleiza
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Prior to the RJ trade Kleiza would have been one of my preferred offseason target. He plays with solid toughness, athleticism and overall offensive skill. He'd be an ideal small ball powerfoward. His defense is limited and he cannot protect the rim at a high level. Like Warrick, I'd prefer to look for a bigger solution up front.

Ryan Hollins
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Extremely athletic, decent defensively and incompetent on offense. Hollins has certainly improved and would be a nice addition to the frontcourt. It's hard to see the Spurs tying up money for 7 days in a bench caliber player. It's also doubtful the Mavs would let him go directly to a division rival.

Aaron Gray
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I'm unsure of his status in Chicago but he could be a nice under the radar signing if the Spurs tried to sign multiple players to fill the front court holes. His size and bball smarts could be useful off the bench. Definitely not starter material.

Glen Davis
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Played well during the playoffs and, in doing so, likely played his way out of the Spurs price range. He could potentially be had for the full MLE, but he's just not the player I want starting next to Duncan. He's undersized and an average athlete. May no longer be an option with the drafting of Dejaun Blair.

Leon Powe
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If not for the injury concerns I would rate him abive Glen Davis. His ability to get to the freethrow line alone, would make him a valuable piece for the Spurs. His status as an overachiever combined with the physical concerns (height and injury) are probably enough to keep the Spurs from seriously considering him. The Spurs may look at him if their first few preferences look elsewhere.

Marvin Williams
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Atlanta may be open to letting him go, but he just doesn't make sense for the Spurs. He'd be looking for minutes and the best the Spurs could offer is a backup role. It would be foolish to use the MLE on a small foward when there is a gaping hole in the front court. Williams will definitely be a solid pickup for a team this offseason.
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#14 » by the southern dandy » Wed Jul 1, 2009 8:12 am

bishopospurs wrote:Southern Dandy, that is a lot of work, thanks for going through the trouble. Are you leaving off restricted free agents, I noticed a few guys that intrigue me missing from your post. Mehmet Okur, Jamario Moon, and Gortat. Also a few UF's that interest me I didn't see, Channing Frye, Stromile Swift, and maybe even Desmond Mason.

All the guys I am pretty serious about you put on the list. I am really interested in Robert Swift, he is only 23 and has been plagued by injury, but if the front office gives him a contract that would mean they think he is beyond that which could be a steal in this free agency period. I like the youth movement and I don't mind bringing in someone as young as Swift. I would be down for Chris Anderson too, but I think Denver is going to retain him.


Channing Frye would only really become an option if Bonner was traded. His inability to play physical basketball would likely scare off coach Pop, but I could be entirely wrong.

Stromile Swift is nearly out of the league IMO. His athleticism could be a nice boost if he were to rededicate himself to basketball. I find his basketball IQ to be really troubling.

I'm not 100% sold on Desmond Mason. Admittedly, I haven't seen him play recently but his age and lack of perimeter ability are red flags. If you could give me some info about his recent play it would be greatly appreciated. At this point I'd prefer the 5th wing position go to a young player like Malik Hairston.
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#15 » by the southern dandy » Wed Jul 1, 2009 8:26 am

Updates

The Rockets are interested in Gortat

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... tat_tweet/

The Yao injury has completely changed the outlook of the offseason. I still want the Spurs to pursue Gortat, but the Rockets might be able to offer more financially and on the court.



Celtics, Detroit and Memphis are interested in Glen Davis

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... _big_baby/

This is great news from a Spurs perspective. The rest of the league clearly values Davis moreso than the Spurs, this increases the chances of the Spurs attaining a more desirable target.
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#16 » by Tiga » Wed Jul 1, 2009 10:28 am

great posts !

what about Odom, realistic ?
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#17 » by the southern dandy » Wed Jul 1, 2009 12:25 pm

Tiga wrote:great posts !

what about Odom, realistic ?


Reports indicate that he's after 10 mil a year. I really don't see anyway the Spurs could make that happen. If he settled for the MLE and came to SA I would be stunned, in a good way.
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#18 » by Donald Kaufman » Wed Jul 1, 2009 12:26 pm

I wouldn't of thought so. I think he (and Ariza) stay in LA.
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#19 » by co_laper » Wed Jul 1, 2009 4:07 pm

If all Odom can get on the market is MLE, I'm sure the Lakers will keep him.
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Re: The Offseason thread 

Post#20 » by Tiga » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:07 pm

Oberto was waived...
you guys want to see him back?

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