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Denver after Hill, Suns will revisit Amare talks, Chandler 

Post#1 » by rsavaj » Wed Jul 1, 2009 4:50 pm

No less interesting than Kidd's foray into free agency is the case of Suns swingman Grant Hill. During his participation in Steve Nash's annual Showdown in Chinatown charity soccer game in New York last week, Hill said he is determined to listen to every proposal he gets, figuring that this could be his last real chance, at 36, to be widely courted.

Fresh off a trip to the Western Conference finals, Denver keeps coming up as a team hot for Hill, who earned less than $4 million over the past two seasons with the Suns. He just played in all 82 games for the first time in his career, averaging 12.0 points and 4.9 rebounds and shooting a robust 52.3 percent from the field. Boston is another team that has Hill on its radar, and more are sure to emerge.

The Suns, meanwhile, certainly should have a shot to hang onto Hill, given his close ties to Suns guard Steve Nash -- assuming Nash eventually accepts the contract extension Phoenix is offering -- and Hill's affinity for the athletic training staff that has resuscitated his career after some six years of injury misery. Yet if Hill receives a full midlevel offer from a contender he likes, Phoenix won't try to match, given its well-chronicled desire to keep moving away from the luxury-tax line.


Talks have undeniably cooled for the Suns and Warriors on the Amare Stoudemire trade front, but I was told against Tuesday that (A) it is a virtual lock that the concept will be revisited since the teams have been exchanging Amare proposals since February and (B) Phoenix has not abandoned the idea of dealing Ben Wallace to New Orleans for center Tyson Chandler.

The biggest obstacle with Amare remains Golden State's unwillingness to even consider including No. 7 overall pick Stephen Curry in the deal and the Suns' lack of interest in a deal without Curry. The other main obstacles haven't changed, either, with Golden State needing assurances about Stoudemire's health (knee and eye) and willingness to sign a contract extension (up for debate) before going ahead with such a swap.

As for Chandler, Phoenix continues to be intrigued by the idea of gambling on a big man who, when healthy, has the qualities Nash been lobbying for: Chandler's athleticism, defensive presence and mobility. But Phoenix also fears that bringing him in will drag the Suns right back into the sort of financial straits that motivated them to dump Shaquille O'Neal's contract to Cleveland for two players (Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic) who have no future in the desert.


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Post#2 » by WTFsunsFTW » Wed Jul 1, 2009 5:09 pm

Nash/Dragic
JRich/Barbs
Hill/Dudley
Amare/Amundson
Chandler/Lopez


That's a playoff team under the tax line. I really dont see why you would want to blow it up when such a potent lineup is in your grasp for a good price.
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Post#3 » by rsavaj » Wed Jul 1, 2009 5:12 pm

That's a beautiful 10 man rotation...Clark+whatever vet FA we sign is a bonus.
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Post#4 » by Stix » Wed Jul 1, 2009 5:28 pm

^ agreed. Nice find rs.

ughh... they dont want T-Chad because of finances? We have a wonderful training staff, this makes no sense... or cents (in Sarvers case)
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Post#5 » by TASTIC » Wed Jul 1, 2009 5:36 pm

Chandler seems like easily the best fit and best option out there. Unless they're going to get a lottery pick next year, then playing hard and going for the playoffs is their best bet. Chandler does everything they need and his contract of $11,850,000 this year and player option $12,750,000 isn't THAT bad...

Go after some cheap vet bench help like Keith Bogans/Quinton Ross/Fred Jones and Stro/MRuffin/Pops and then you've got a deep team with interchangeable pieces

I'm sure if they could find an immediate taker for JRich this Chandler deal would be done
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Post#6 » by azballer53 » Wed Jul 1, 2009 5:39 pm

TASTIC wrote:Chandler seems like easily the best fit and best option out there. Unless they're going to get a lottery pick next year, then playing hard and going for the playoffs is their best bet. Chandler does everything they need and his contract of $11,850,000 this year and player option $12,750,000 isn't THAT bad...

Go after some cheap vet bench help like Keith Bogans/Quinton Ross/Fred Jones and Stro/MRuffin/Pops and then you've got a deep team with interchangeable pieces

I'm sure if they could find an immediate taker for JRich this Chandler deal would be done

we need a cheap vet point back up like Marburry Bobby Jackson etc.
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Post#7 » by Austin » Wed Jul 1, 2009 5:58 pm

I would love to have the 10 man rotation in the 2nd post along with clark and a vet FA... It would be a very solid team, and also have some good building blocks for next year as well in Stat (who needs to be given an extension in any case whether it be for trade value or his future as a Sun), Chandler, and Barbosa. How can our front office be this lame... Chandler as a Sun is the RIGHT call for this team, even with his contract.
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Post#8 » by Austin » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:00 pm

azballer53 wrote:we need a cheap vet point back up like Marburry Bobby Jackson etc.


I love that you want Marburry on this team, but want to trade Nash according to your sig... laughable! :lol:
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Post#9 » by aIvin adams » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:00 pm

STARBURY!!! lol. ive still got love for marbury
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Post#10 » by DirtyDez » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:03 pm

Can we get Chandler before they pull the trade off the table like GS did? I mean what the hell make it happen already before the Spurs get him
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Post#11 » by rsavaj » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:05 pm

lol watch the spurs sign oberto, kurt thomas and bowen again after they're waived and them package them together for a chandler deal

Longoria
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Chandler

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Post#12 » by azballer53 » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:12 pm

Austin wrote:
azballer53 wrote:we need a cheap vet point back up like Marburry Bobby Jackson etc.


I love that you want Marburry on this team, but want to trade Nash according to your sig... laughable! :lol:

im saying if my sig is what i want if we blow it up but if were going to compete i want a backup point like marbury or jackson etc
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Post#13 » by Austin » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:13 pm

in my opinion, marbury would be TERRIBLE for our team chemistry so he can eff off
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Post#14 » by azballer53 » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:17 pm

Austin wrote:in my opinion, marbury would be TERRIBLE for our team chemistry so he can eff off

you like my new sig ha
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Post#15 » by TASTIC » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:22 pm

i hope you have another 40yr window on that sig az haha
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Post#16 » by justinb80 » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:23 pm

That'd be an interesting turn of events if the FO suddenly decided "Eff this rebuilding" then signed Amare long-term, extended Nash, and traded for Chandler. Having Chandler is ultimately better than having Marion, I think, so if that happens, would Kerr be a genius, but just took him a couple years? Obviously kidding about being a genius, but still.
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Post#17 » by Mr. Sun » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:25 pm

I'm leaning for Kaman for no other reason than he makes his free throws.
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Post#18 » by rsavaj » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:27 pm

Kaveman running with this team would be jokes.

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Post#19 » by charley barkles » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:32 pm

Chandler is the obvious fit, but wouldn't rasheed wallace seem to fit well too? He's big, mobile, and can shoot the 3 to open up space for amare. not sure about chemistry though...
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Post#20 » by rsavaj » Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:32 pm

'Sheed would be great but he wants a contender, so LA/BOS/SAS are his main targets imo

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