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COULD A.I. HELP THE LAKERS?

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Re: COULD A.I. HELP THE LAKERS? 

Post#21 » by joe.linnen » Wed Jul 1, 2009 2:26 pm

lakersfanatic wrote:he's bad apple, a baby... Look what he did in detroit. He literally gave up on the team. That's just emo to me. ridiculous... anyways if he does a gary payton or a karl malone where he'll take a vets contact that sure why not.. But i doubt he would do that...



OMG he didn't give up in Detroit. He was up set at the fact that he couldn't give 100% when he was hurt. Everybody is always thinking thta he just gave up on the team he was upset at himself really for not being healthy, that is all.
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Re: COULD A.I. HELP THE LAKERS? 

Post#22 » by lakersfanatic » Wed Jul 1, 2009 2:41 pm

joe.linnen wrote:
lakersfanatic wrote:he's bad apple, a baby... Look what he did in detroit. He literally gave up on the team. That's just emo to me. ridiculous... anyways if he does a gary payton or a karl malone where he'll take a vets contact that sure why not.. But i doubt he would do that...



OMG he didn't give up in Detroit. He was up set at the fact that he couldn't give 100% when he was hurt. Everybody is always thinking thta he just gave up on the team he was upset at himself really for not being healthy, that is all.


Ok, i respect your standpoint in all of this but all of a sudden they pulled him out and then he's back in and then out for the whole season.... something doesn't seem right.. right there. Maybe im just being too harsh but usually season ending injuries are major injuries.. I'm not sure if there's an injury update on him yet. But from the way detroit is heading right now (rebuilding) im pretty sure that if AI has the chance he would go to another team.
Don't get me wrong, he is a good player.. a franchise player... just in recent years it hasn't gone his way and i think it has affected him... affected his play...
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Re: COULD A.I. HELP THE LAKERS? 

Post#23 » by pdub15 » Thu Jul 2, 2009 1:54 am

Depends if it is the Iverson that sacrificed and lead the Sixers to the finals. Not saying still that talented but the sacrifices he made that year as far as being in a team mind set would be a nice addition after resigning Ariza & Odom.
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Re: COULD A.I. HELP THE LAKERS? 

Post#24 » by RamonSessions7 » Thu Jul 2, 2009 2:13 am

To answer the thread. No. He didn't want come off the bench in Detroit. Not a team player.
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Re: COULD A.I. HELP THE LAKERS? 

Post#25 » by Error Afflalo » Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:54 am

17 24 16 wrote:To answer the thread. No. He didn't want come off the bench in Detroit. Not a team player.


I think AI's problem had more to do with his minutes than with his role off the bench. He was playing 18 minutes a game, getting less run than Will Bynum. Rip was getting 28-30 when he was coming off the bench, so AI probably expected something similar. What put him over the edge was getting benched in the fourth against Cleveland, a game with huge playoff implications in which he led the team back from a sizable deficit. Dude gets yanked with 7 minutes left and never sees the floor again, and the pistons proceed to lose in horrible fashion. Add that to all the politicking going on after their Billups got traded and you had a toxic situation.


The Lakers have more pressing concerns, like getting their own free agents locked up. But you can't tell me AI terrorizing opposing teams' second units off the bench for 25 minutes a game doesn't help this team. The team's structure is set, you already have the best player/coach in basketball. It may not be worth the risk unless some other things shake out first, but if it were to happen, he would definitely help this team. There's a big difference between backing up Kobe and some beta male nobody like Rip Hamilton. If he really wants to win and add to his legacy, he makes this sort of move, as opposed to going to Charlotte or Toronto. Whether the Lakers give him the platform to do so is another issue. But one thing is certain, he would be fun to watch in purple and gold. He'd be the best sixth man in the league.
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Re: COULD A.I. HELP THE LAKERS? 

Post#26 » by VIPER8382 » Thu Jul 2, 2009 11:42 am

Where on earth are you guys getting the idea that Iverson would be a bench player in LA? Who are we going to start over him at PG? Fisher, Farmar, Brown? Iverson would be our starting PG, play 34-37 minutes a game, and average 15-20 points and 7-8 assists per game. I will take him over Kidd every single time. Kidd isn't the defender he used to be, and with us using the triangle a lethal scorer with very underrated distribution skills is 10 times more dangerous than what Kidd brings. I say Artest for MLE (if we let Ariza go), Iverson for LLE and we are set for an easy 3 peat.

Iverson / Farmar / Brown / Fisher
Bryant / Iverson / Brown / Vujacic
Artest (or preferably Ariza) / Bryant / Walton
Gasol / Odom / Powell
Bynum / Gasol / Mbenga
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Post#27 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Jul 2, 2009 8:55 pm

iverson without even blinking would be the lone individual who would have no problem of looking off kobe and shooting with no regrets. is that helpful enough?
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Re: COULD A.I. HELP THE LAKERS? 

Post#28 » by The Skyhook » Thu Jul 2, 2009 10:27 pm

VIPER8382 wrote:Where on earth are you guys getting the idea that Iverson would be a bench player in LA? Who are we going to start over him at PG? Fisher, Farmar, Brown? Iverson would be our starting PG, play 34-37 minutes a game, and average 15-20 points and 7-8 assists per game. I will take him over Kidd every single time. Kidd isn't the defender he used to be, and with us using the triangle a lethal scorer with very underrated distribution skills is 10 times more dangerous than what Kidd brings. I say Artest for MLE (if we let Ariza go), Iverson for LLE and we are set for an easy 3 peat.

Iverson / Farmar / Brown / Fisher
Bryant / Iverson / Brown / Vujacic
Artest (or preferably Ariza) / Bryant / Walton
Gasol / Odom / Powell
Bynum / Gasol / Mbenga

I can already imagine what people will say if this is our lineup for 2009 - 2010. This could be one of the most problematic teams ever. Everyone on the GB is already saying they prefer Ariza over Artest because Artest is a nut case. Everyone is saying Ai is not a team player. Yea that stuff is probably true but if Artest is calm and AI plays with the minutes he desires, this could be a pretty damn good team.
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Re: COULD A.I. HELP THE LAKERS? 

Post#29 » by CITYOFANGELSX3 » Fri Jul 3, 2009 1:27 am

j-far wrote:Iverson can help us by signing elsewhere.


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