ImageImage

PG Options

Moderators: VCfor3, SD2042

User avatar
SD2042
Senior Mod - Grizzlies
Senior Mod - Grizzlies
Posts: 24,764
And1: 2,500
Joined: Mar 05, 2002
   

PG Options 

Post#1 » by SD2042 » Wed Jul 1, 2009 7:35 am

Right now the Grizz need a backup point guard to current starter Mike Conley. Either the Grizz will look at FA or through trade scenarios. Here's a list of potential PGs for the Grizz to consider.

Mike Bibby
Eddie House
Anthony Carter
Janerro Pargo
Andre Miller
Brevin Knight
Jarrett Jack
Nate Robinson
Steve Blake
jefe
General Manager
Posts: 8,306
And1: 746
Joined: Apr 27, 2005
Location: memphis

Re: PG Options 

Post#2 » by jefe » Wed Jul 1, 2009 12:47 pm

I think the most realistic - considering what the Grizz are looking for - is Brevin Knight, but I'd like to see Jack or Blake (but he might "challenge" Conley for the starting spot, so who knows).
dark-child
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,831
And1: 125
Joined: Nov 08, 2005
     

Re: PG Options 

Post#3 » by dark-child » Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:07 pm

What has been said publicly by the organization regarding the type of backup point guard for Conley is such a huge disservice to the guy. Basically he can't excel unless he doesn't feel threatened. What does it say that Kyle Lowry felt he should be starting over this guy and had to be moved? I would not expect anything too decent and broken down Brevin Knight makes the most sense.

If Conley is going to be a beast and not a mental midget than we could go out and acquire someone that is not a major drop off like Shannon Brown or Marquis Daniels. While both are not true point guards I favor these hybrid type players who can also play off the ball as I don't think we have addressed our backup two guard spot adequately with an unmotivated Quentin Richardson who also has a balky back.
User avatar
GrizzledGrizzFan
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,571
And1: 161
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
Location: Just south of Memphis, as the crow flies...
     

Re: PG Options 

Post#4 » by GrizzledGrizzFan » Wed Jul 1, 2009 2:09 pm

Centers are tough like steel - we must challenge them Marc = Draft Thabeet
Point Guards are dainty flowers - they must shine alone Mike = Trade Lowry

WTF Bizzaro world does the Grizzlies FO work on?
Image
User avatar
It_Was_Typed
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,802
And1: 12
Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Location: Lakewood, CA

Re: PG Options 

Post#5 » by It_Was_Typed » Wed Jul 1, 2009 3:44 pm

Steve Blake would be ideal.

I'd be fine with Jannero Pargo or Brevin Knight though (complete opposites oddly enough).
#JuiceIsFree
User avatar
SD2042
Senior Mod - Grizzlies
Senior Mod - Grizzlies
Posts: 24,764
And1: 2,500
Joined: Mar 05, 2002
   

Re: PG Options 

Post#6 » by SD2042 » Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:27 am

Knight can help the Grizz in the assist department and some vet experience. Plus his fam lives here in Memphis. Steve Blake is a good option to keep in mind. Will Portland be willing to give him up?
User avatar
bobobolas1
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,253
And1: 0
Joined: May 17, 2007
Location: Not Finland anymore

Re: PG Options 

Post#7 » by bobobolas1 » Thu Jul 2, 2009 10:05 am

I dont think blake is leaving portland now that sergio is gone....

Id like fot that team a PG who doesnt need to shot a lot. Andre miller or Brevin knight fit us.
Image
Mumbles
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,377
And1: 223
Joined: Apr 11, 2007
Location: Indianapolis

Re: PG Options 

Post#8 » by Mumbles » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:52 pm

dark-child wrote:What has been said publicly by the organization regarding the type of backup point guard for Conley is such a huge disservice to the guy. Basically he can't excel unless he doesn't feel threatened. What does it say that Kyle Lowry felt he should be starting over this guy and had to be moved? I would not expect anything too decent and broken down Brevin Knight makes the most sense.


With all due respect, that seems to be what you're inferring instead of fact. What has the organization said that 'basically' asserts that Conley is afraid of competition? A young player needs to get into a rhythm to excel. Yes, he improved with the franchise's confidence, and a new coach..that's what usually happens, especially with pgs. He got more comfortable with NBA basketball, he is a better player now, maybe you have seen/heard enough in two short years to assume that he would revert back to stage fright in the event that they bring someone in, but I 'm sure Conley is well aware of NBA competition.
BRIGGS
Analyst
Posts: 3,184
And1: 128
Joined: Sep 21, 2004
Location: darien ct

Re: PG Options 

Post#9 » by BRIGGS » Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:12 pm

You guys signed Marcus Williams to your SL team--don't count him out. he is 6-3 215 and 23 years old. He started his career out pretty good in NJ than got hurt and was traded to GS but not wanted by the coach. I think you might be surprised by him if he comes in solid shape and hes cheap.
Vanilla Ice is the best rap artist of all time
User avatar
GrizzledGrizzFan
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,571
And1: 161
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
Location: Just south of Memphis, as the crow flies...
     

Re: PG Options 

Post#10 » by GrizzledGrizzFan » Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:42 pm

BRIGGS wrote:You guys signed Marcus Williams to your SL team--don't count him out. he is 6-3 215 and 23 years old. He started his career out pretty good in NJ than got hurt and was traded to GS but not wanted by the coach. I think you might be surprised by him if he comes in solid shape and hes cheap.


You have a source on that Briggs? Not that I doubt you at all - Grizz fans have been waiting on the summer league roster and I still haven't seen it anywhere in print yet.
Image
Downtown
Head Coach
Posts: 6,876
And1: 578
Joined: Jun 30, 2001

Re: PG Options 

Post#11 » by Downtown » Thu Jul 2, 2009 7:14 pm

I'm inclined to believe Briggs. He was right on the money early on with his so called inside information that Memphis was drafting Thabeet. I remember back when Williams was drafted. There were some really high hoped for him. I kind of lost track once he went to Golden State and got buried there. Where did he play last year?
sfernald
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,809
And1: 2,433
Joined: Mar 06, 2009

Re: PG Options 

Post#12 » by sfernald » Sat Jul 4, 2009 5:41 am

I think there's a chance you could probably get Steve Blake or Martell Webster from Portland just for cap space, depending on the trades they decide to do. They are looking for a PG and/or SF upgrade right now and will need to weed down soon.
daddyfivestar
Banned User
Posts: 5,215
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 19, 2004
Location: Get to 17 while they are still on 17

Re: PG Options 

Post#13 » by daddyfivestar » Sat Jul 4, 2009 9:54 am

Lakers will trade you Jordan Farmar (6'1/180 ring intact) tomorrow for a 1.95m TPE.

He's very solid, but not a triangle point. He's more of an uptempo and pick n roll type... of which work great except those opportunities in an LA game are about 10%, 90% of which it's Fisher running the break or Kobe the p n r.

Much much cheaper than most of the other options plus two years of finals experience is nice backing up Conley, and he has a QO so you have 3 choices, let it play out as an expiring RFA, extend, or expire.

?
User avatar
pumuki
Sophomore
Posts: 191
And1: 18
Joined: Jun 27, 2008

Re: PG Options 

Post#14 » by pumuki » Sat Jul 4, 2009 12:55 pm

daddyfivestar wrote:Lakers will trade you Jordan Farmar (6'1/180 ring intact) tomorrow for a 1.95m TPE.

He's very solid, but not a triangle point. He's more of an uptempo and pick n roll type... of which work great except those opportunities in an LA game are about 10%, 90% of which it's Fisher running the break or Kobe the p n r.

Much much cheaper than most of the other options plus two years of finals experience is nice backing up Conley, and he has a QO so you have 3 choices, let it play out as an expiring RFA, extend, or expire.

?


I´d do it in a second, Farmar would be ok with playing of the bench and his contract is a plus for us, we can take a gamble for 1 year, or 2 or let him walk if it doesn´t work out.
User avatar
pumuki
Sophomore
Posts: 191
And1: 18
Joined: Jun 27, 2008

Re: PG Options 

Post#15 » by pumuki » Sat Jul 4, 2009 1:00 pm

SD2042 wrote:Right now the Grizz need a backup point guard to current starter Mike Conley. Either the Grizz will look at FA or through trade scenarios. Here's a list of potential PGs for the Grizz to consider.

Mike Bibby
Eddie House
Anthony Carter
Janerro Pargo
Andre Miller
Brevin Knight
Jarrett Jack
Nate Robinson
Steve Blake


I think we need a gunner in the mold of the old Bobby Jackson with size and capable of hitting the 3. My list would be :

Charlie Bell
Steve Blake
Anthony Morrow
Jordan Farmar
Eddie House
daddyfivestar
Banned User
Posts: 5,215
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 19, 2004
Location: Get to 17 while they are still on 17

Re: PG Options 

Post#16 » by daddyfivestar » Sat Jul 4, 2009 4:48 pm

I brought up Farmar because LA is still needing a bit more wiggle room to get Odom signed and that would be a good win-win for both teams I think, space for LA and backup for Memphis.
User avatar
Hallstar
Head Coach
Posts: 6,763
And1: 7,646
Joined: Jul 15, 2008
   

Re: PG Options 

Post#17 » by Hallstar » Sun Jul 5, 2009 1:52 pm

You can get Chris Quinn from Miami for an exception
User avatar
SD2042
Senior Mod - Grizzlies
Senior Mod - Grizzlies
Posts: 24,764
And1: 2,500
Joined: Mar 05, 2002
   

Re: PG Options 

Post#18 » by SD2042 » Sun Jul 5, 2009 6:07 pm

Hallstar wrote:You can get Chris Quinn from Miami for an exception


How reliable is Quinn on the court?
User avatar
Hallstar
Head Coach
Posts: 6,763
And1: 7,646
Joined: Jul 15, 2008
   

Re: PG Options 

Post#19 » by Hallstar » Sun Jul 5, 2009 7:34 pm

will get you in to offense, low turnovers, reliable 3 point shot, subpar defender. Won't really push an established starter for minutes.
User avatar
SD2042
Senior Mod - Grizzlies
Senior Mod - Grizzlies
Posts: 24,764
And1: 2,500
Joined: Mar 05, 2002
   

Re: PG Options 

Post#20 » by SD2042 » Mon Jul 6, 2009 5:16 am

I'm surprised he didn't get into the strting lineup in Miami before Chalmers was drafted last summer if he that good as you put it.

Return to Memphis Grizzlies