Trevor Ariza

[MasterRyu]

Yeah, no way is Ariza going to fit in the power forward position. He's not big enough. He's already having trouble guarding some of the tougher small forwards in the league (Lebron, Pierce)

[SportsBoy]

Why do I get the feeling that Ariza is just playing Danny for a Fool by using his "so called" interest in the Cavs as a bargining chip with the Lakers?

Extend him the FULL MLE....if he wont commit......SEE YA !

Trade AV and Boobie for Artest.

[NetsForce]

Just curious, if Ariza's reasoning for leaving LA is get himself a bigger contract, why would he accept the MLE from Cleveland?

It's simple. He saw the Lakers' offer as disrespectful. This actually happened with us and AV, where he for less with another team than what we were offering to start. Luckily, he was a RFA so we were able to match.

I'd prefer Artest to Ariza, as one will probably end up in LA and one here, but if Artest re-signs with Houston, I would be extremely happy with Ariza.

No offense but this is the same poor logic that was thrown about with the Bynum negotiations last year.

[AmusingFiddle]

Just curious, if Ariza's reasoning for leaving LA is get himself a bigger contract, why would he accept the MLE from Cleveland?

It's simple. He saw the Lakers' offer as disrespectful. This actually happened with us and AV, where he for less with another team than what we were offering to start. Luckily, he was a RFA so we were able to match.

I'd prefer Artest to Ariza, as one will probably end up in LA and one here, but if Artest re-signs with Houston, I would be extremely happy with Ariza.

News Flash: If AV was a RFA and signed for less money with another team wouldn't he know being a RFA that Cle would pick him up for that amount? Duh.... As such, Cle was probably offering less than what they matched (probably waiting on another deal that didn't happen). We will never know.

[gflem]

According to news reports the Cavs offer was indeed higher, but the agent was telling Andy that he was worth, and going to get more so they turned the Cavs down. When it became apparent that they werent going to get anything close to 10 mil, it became a waiting game. The agent didnt want to look like the fool that he was so he instructed Andy to wait on a better offer that never came, and convinced him the Cavs offer was insulting.
They also thought the Cavs would cave after Andy held out, but when that didnt happen they decided to take the Bobcats offer rather than eat crow and admit they were wrong and look like fools. Now the reports may have been wrong, but they were never refuted by Andy or his agent to my knowledge.

[JDaWg1000]

Rockets are expected to offer Ariza a contract

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... offer_mle/

i hope we do the same as well, since both teams would offer then same amount, if i were trevor id want to play for the Cavs. seeing as Yao's future is in jepordy whereas teh Cavs have LBJ, Shaq, Mo,

[dingclancy]

Ariza signs with Houston for the MLE. Cleveland could have gotten him.

Tell LBJ to start recruiting.

[Gordon Bombay]

Ariza signs with Houston for the MLE. Cleveland could have gotten him.

Tell LBJ to start recruiting.

not for the money or years that he got from houston

[AmusingFiddle]

According to news reports the Cavs offer was indeed higher, but the agent was telling Andy that he was worth, and going to get more so they turned the Cavs down. When it became apparent that they werent going to get anything close to 10 mil, it became a waiting game. The agent didnt want to look like the fool that he was so he instructed Andy to wait on a better offer that never came, and convinced him the Cavs offer was insulting.
They also thought the Cavs would cave after Andy held out, but when that didnt happen they decided to take the Bobcats offer rather than eat crow and admit they were wrong and look like fools. Now the reports may have been wrong, but they were never refuted by Andy or his agent to my knowledge.

If so, AV should truly be grateful that he didn't face any negativity upon his return.

[Gordon Bombay]

According to news reports the Cavs offer was indeed higher, but the agent was telling Andy that he was worth, and going to get more so they turned the Cavs down. When it became apparent that they werent going to get anything close to 10 mil, it became a waiting game. The agent didnt want to look like the fool that he was so he instructed Andy to wait on a better offer that never came, and convinced him the Cavs offer was insulting.
They also thought the Cavs would cave after Andy held out, but when that didnt happen they decided to take the Bobcats offer rather than eat crow and admit they were wrong and look like fools. Now the reports may have been wrong, but they were never refuted by Andy or his agent to my knowledge.

If so, AV should truly be grateful that he didn't face any negativity upon his return.

av's pretty much an all-around jackass

[triplet1984]

Ariza signs with Houston for the MLE. Cleveland could have gotten him.

Tell LBJ to start recruiting.

how is Lebron supposed to recruit when the other person is probably thinking 'dude, you're gonna be GONE after next year'. I'm not saying that's whats going to happen but what the guys could be thinking.

[Benedict_Boozer]

Ariza also got the MLE for 5 years. CLE wasn't going to pay that.

[Gordon Bombay]

Ariza signs with Houston for the MLE. Cleveland could have gotten him.

Tell LBJ to start recruiting.

how is Lebron supposed to recruit when the other person is probably thinking 'dude, you're gonna be GONE after next year'. I'm not saying that's whats going to happen but what the guys could be thinking.

definitely a valid point...lebron wants it both ways and it just doesnt work like that

[Pula_86]

I could not blame LBJ if he left Cleveland. The roster has been terribly managed from the time he became a Cav. A few of the bad contracts: Larry Hughes, Donyell Marshall, Big Z, Ira Newble, Drew Gooden, and Varejao. The Cavs are the only team that would pay these guys this much. It is almost comical if it wasn't so sad.

[dingclancy]

Ariza also got the MLE for 5 years. CLE wasn't going to pay that.

So I guess there was no offer. If I were a betting man, I'd think that only Houston actually offered something to Ariza.

But then if Cavs were not willing to offer that money to Ariza, I wonder who they think they can get for less than MLE. Reports say Sheed is not considering Cleveland.

[prekazi]

We can say good bye to LeBron. I won't even watch the NBA next year.

[Rise Against]

We can say good bye to LeBron. I won't even watch the NBA next year.

Quit overreacting. We are still one of the top teams in the NBA.