Cheap bargain power forwards to sign ahead of Davis

campybatman · Post #1 » by **campybatman** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 4:21 am

Rob Kurz, Golden State Warriors

A sweet shooting face-up four man, Kurz made Golden State's roster as a complete surprise last season, and played limited minutes in only 40 games, averaging 3.9 points. However, what should get the attention of bargain shoppers is this: Kurz played more than 30 minutes in just two games this season, and when he got those minutes, he produced – scoring 20 against Denver and 21 against Utah, going 7-11 from the field and 3-3 from three against the Nuggets and 8-14 from the field against the Jazz while hitting 4 out of 7 threes. That's 15-25 from the floor and 7-10 from three in the only two games where he got significant minutes – and those games were four months apart. He's a guy who not only is waiting for his chance, but has proved to be ready when it comes. If you need a four who can stretch the defense and create space for others, Kurz is a bargain.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13160

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVMf8MEQkiM&feature=fvst

Joana · Post #2 » by **Joana** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 4:23 am

Kurz isn't a 1/10 of the defender Scalabrine is (and Scalabrine is only good when guarding face-up, jump-shooting 4s, slow 3s and tweeners). Why do you need a replacement for Scalabrine anyway?

campybatman · Post #3 » by **campybatman** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 4:36 am

Ainge will likely look to move Scalabrine's expiring contract before the deadline next season. As the article implies, Kruz could be a bargain or a hidden gem. There's nothing wrong with adding a young and highly motivated player with some semblance of upside who's looking for an opportunity. He'll probably catch on with a team's summer league.

campybatman · Post #4 » by **campybatman** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 5:52 pm

I still would've an interest in either Bass or Kleiza.

Cyclical · Post #5 » by **Cyclical** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 5:55 pm

I'll take Davis thank you.

cfan79 · Post #6 » by **cfan79** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:18 pm

I wouldn't mind having Mcdyess on the team. He would probably be more willing to take cheap money then Baby. I don't blame Baby though, he hasn't had his big payday yet. Whereas Mcdyess has and just wants a title now.

celticsfanforlife · Post #7 » by **celticsfanforlife** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:22 pm

To be honest, Scal needs to never see the court again. EVER. He is the worst player in the league and the fact that he gets minutes on a championship team is disgusting. The biggest loss we had via the Garnett injury was that Scal got more minutes. He is a disgrace. Don't let two three pointers in a row every once in a while confuse you.

cfan79 · Post #8 » by **cfan79** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:27 pm

celticsfanforlife wrote:To be honest, Scal needs to never see the court again. EVER. He is the worst player in the league and the fact that he gets minutes on a championship team is disgusting. The biggest loss we had via the Garnett injury was that Scal got more minutes. He is a disgrace. Don't let two three pointers in a row every once in a while confuse you.

Our bench was so awful this past season that I prayed for Scala to get well soon after his concussion. Scala isn't bad for a 12th man, but he shouldn't be the 2nd or 3rd player off the bench.

Cyclical · Post #9 » by **Cyclical** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:27 pm

celticsfanforlife wrote:To be honest, Scal needs to never see the court again. EVER. He is the worst player in the league and the fact that he gets minutes on a championship team is disgusting. The biggest loss we had via the Garnett injury was that Scal got more minutes. He is a disgrace. Don't let two three pointers in a row every once in a while confuse you.

????

How the hell is he the worst player in the league? He is definitely an ABOVE average defender in the league. Just that fact alone makes him of value to many teams' benches. Please, enough with this "worst player in the league" crap every time his name comes up. Don't let some missed three pointers confuse you.

cfan79 · Post #10 » by **cfan79** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:29 pm

Scala definitely isn't the worst player in the league. I'd take him over many players whose name's are so unimportant I can't remember them.

celticsfanforlife · Post #11 » by **celticsfanforlife** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:32 pm

Cyclical wrote:
celticsfanforlife wrote:To be honest, Scal needs to never see the court again. EVER. He is the worst player in the league and the fact that he gets minutes on a championship team is disgusting. The biggest loss we had via the Garnett injury was that Scal got more minutes. He is a disgrace. Don't let two three pointers in a row every once in a while confuse you.

????

How the hell is he the worst player in the league? He is definitely an ABOVE average defender in the league. Just that fact alone makes him of value to many teams' benches. Please, enough with this "worst player in the league" crap every time his name comes up. Don't let some missed three pointers confuse you.

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I wont; Thats why I still think Marbury is good...

Every time Scal comes in...the opposing team goes DIRECTLY at him. Almost every time. Thats all you need to know...So they go at him 5 times, and he gets two stops...but gives up 6-7 points the other three possessions then hes a good defender? Let me ask you this. Who can he lock down?

campybatman · Post #12 » by **campybatman** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:33 pm

I'll say it again, Scalabrine is now a liability with his proneness for concussions. Powe is gone... The bench needs toughness and someone with a penchant for rebounding. I would've a serious interest in the players I'd named... Especially, if the interest around the league is low. Bass is the only name I'd mentioned that I believe is drawing enough interest from other teams that he probably won't be a realistic option.

celticsfanforlife · Post #13 » by **celticsfanforlife** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:35 pm

Bass would be a great pickup...I liked him in the draft and still do...and good point there too on Scal...we need more toughness and more athleticism off the bench asap.

Cyclical · Post #14 » by **Cyclical** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:44 pm

celticsfanforlife wrote:
Cyclical wrote:
celticsfanforlife wrote:To be honest, Scal needs to never see the court again. EVER. He is the worst player in the league and the fact that he gets minutes on a championship team is disgusting. The biggest loss we had via the Garnett injury was that Scal got more minutes. He is a disgrace. Don't let two three pointers in a row every once in a while confuse you.

????

How the hell is he the worst player in the league? He is definitely an ABOVE average defender in the league. Just that fact alone makes him of value to many teams' benches. Please, enough with this "worst player in the league" crap every time his name comes up. Don't let some missed three pointers confuse you.

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I wont; Thats why I still think Marbury is good...

Every time Scal comes in...the opposing team goes DIRECTLY at him. Almost every time. Thats all you need to know...So they go at him 5 times, and he gets two stops...but gives up 6-7 points the other three possessions then hes a good defender? Let me ask you this. Who can he lock down?

Have you seen the playoffs? It was an immediate improvement in team D when he came back. He's much better than Big Baby on the wings. Much (though not so strong in the post. He knows how to switch, when to go over and under screens and how to help his teammates on D. No one will ever call him a lock-down defender but calling him the worst player in the league is ludicrous. He's sub-par offensively and above par defensively which makes him just about average. The worst, really? Also, what does that have to do with Marbury or anyone else? He's simply a 10th rotation kind of a player. No more, no less. A nice guy to have when people get injured.

celticsfanforlife · Post #15 » by **celticsfanforlife** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:55 pm

Because you told me not to be confused by MISSED THREE POINTERS. I was drawing the parallel to the, in my opinion, unfair criticism of Marbury...

Yes I did watch the playoffs. The fact that he knows how to switch is elementary. I think we can find more suitable NBA defenders who also know how to switch and move properly on defense..the fact that we're commending him on switching should be enough as it is. Also, I dont think it is valid to compare him to Big Baby and say we got better. Scal may have been better for that role than Big Baby, but we shouldn't be playing either on the wings. We had faulty personnel. I really don't think Scal is an above average defender at all...Its true he does have pretty good basketball IQ..but we all know about his physical tools. Listen, I commend his effort and intelligence, but he just can't hang in the NBA anymore, and Id be floored if anyone offered him a contract past this one.

wigglestrue · Post #16 » by **wigglestrue** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:58 pm

Shavlik Randolph for the minimum interests me, but not ahead of Davis.

GreenGrizz · Post #17 » by **GreenGrizz** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:58 pm

I want BBD. He can guard Shaq. The case's closed.

celticsfanforlife · Post #18 » by **celticsfanforlife** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 7:08 pm

Id like Linas Kleiza for the LLE..he's only 24 and showed some great polish on Denver..

Cyclical · Post #19 » by **Cyclical** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 7:35 pm

OK celticsfanforlife, I agree with half of what you said. Yes, we can probably find someone better. I'm just a little tired of this "worst in the nba" comment I've heard a few times - Go through the list of 450 players in the NBA and you'll find at least 100 worst. Let's start with our very own Mikki Moore, not to mention POB... Scal will most definitely get a new NBA contract after this one expires - for much less money, but a deal nevertheless.

But I do agree we do need someone better!

Rocky5000 · Post #20 » by **Rocky5000** » Fri Jul 3, 2009 8:44 pm

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