Trade Idea Thread

Clip34life · Post #641 » by **Clip34life** » Sat Jul 4, 2009 7:03 am

We would need Kyle Lowry in exchange for Thornton.

ClipperDomination · Post #642 » by **ClipperDomination** » Sat Jul 4, 2009 7:51 am

If they want Thornton, we should change Hayes to Landry.

BoomFizzle · Post #643 » by **BoomFizzle** » Sat Jul 4, 2009 9:13 am

When we had Z-bo I wanted Battier but I don't think he would be of much use anymore. We don't have any efficient scorers and Battier doesn't do much scoring.

jgustav1 · Post #644 » by **jgustav1** » Sat Jul 4, 2009 2:31 pm

SportsFan215 wrote:What do you guys think about this deal?

Kaman/Thornton for Green/Watson/Wilkins

Then trade either Watson or Wilkins for a backup big man.

This would give us an upgrade at SF, and a big 3 for the future in Gordon, Green, and Griffin. It also frees up even more cap room next offseason.

OKC fans said they would probably do this deal if they sign either David Lee or Millsap to be their PF.

I'd rather make it Kaman/Thornton for Green/Krstic/Wilkins but I doubt the Thunder would be willing to give up Jeff Green for such a package. They would have to be big Kaman fans to do it. Krstic played pretty well last year for OKC, he is worth his contract.

It_Was_Typed · Post #645 » by **It_Was_Typed** » Sat Jul 4, 2009 3:37 pm

BoomFizzle wrote:When we had Z-bo I wanted Battier but I don't think he would be of much use anymore. We don't have any efficient scorers and Battier doesn't do much scoring.

But Battier would "balance" out the starting line up. He would defend the other team's best wing player and knock down open shots. He also brings playoff experience, poise and leadership.

BoomFizzle · Post #646 » by **BoomFizzle** » Sat Jul 4, 2009 4:13 pm

Dont get me wrong I would love to have Battier. I just think the team is lacking scorers now. Last year we really struggled to score. This year I see us struggling even more unless a move is made.

If there was any way to get Prince or Deng I would prefer them to Battier as they could contribute on offence a lot more and still play solid defence and be team players.

It_Was_Typed · Post #647 » by **It_Was_Typed** » Sat Jul 4, 2009 8:22 pm

Really?

I'm a bit surprised. As long as Dumbleavy loosens the reigns on Baron and injuries are kept to a minimum (hard to ask on both accounts), I think the team should be fine offensively in this scenario.

PlinkingPanda · Post #648 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Sat Jul 4, 2009 8:31 pm

It's not so much that we lack scorers, it's the lack of good shot opportunities. Most of our possessions we had to work hard just to get a decent shot. I think it's due to Dunleavy calling a lot of ISO plays. Either Thornton to the left side of the court, facing up and taking a tough jumpshot after overthinking, or Z-Bo getting a pass from the right side and banging in for a crazy shot that somehow manages to go in. Then the rest of the guys just stand there and watch.

Injuries played a big role too cause we did miss a lot of our best players for a fair amount of time. Players were out for weeks only to come back and having to rework to get the rust out, then to see someone else go down and watch from the side lines for a couple weeks.. etc etc..

I think Battier still works fine for us. We don't have a lot of good shooters other than Novak and Gordon.

Hoops23 · Post #649 » by **Hoops23** » Sun Jul 5, 2009 1:01 am

How about a trade of J O'Neal for Camby & Kaman?

PlinkingPanda · Post #650 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Sun Jul 5, 2009 1:09 am

Hoops23 wrote:How about a trade of J O'Neal for Camby & Kaman?

Definitely not.. That might be nice if we were in total rebuild mode since he's an expiring, but Kaman is still pretty young(26 I believe?) and doing so this would make our front court have very little depth.

DaDragicShow · Post #651 » by **DaDragicShow** » Sun Jul 5, 2009 4:19 am

Amare/Nash for Griffin/Davis straight up. What do you guys think?

Post #652 » by **loflin3hree5ive** » Sun Jul 5, 2009 2:51 pm

^ No thanks.

Hooch20 · Post #653 » by **Hooch20** » Sun Jul 5, 2009 3:03 pm

How about Q-Rich and Ricky for Boozer.

Then our TPE for either Korver or Harpring.

Sure we get the better out of this deal, but this deal helps the Jazz stay away from luxury tax hell and makes it much easier for them to sign Milsap to a long term deal. The Jazz are already at 73 million and that with Milsap scheduled to make 1 million this year. Trading our TPE for Korver would save them 5.15 million and 10.3 million with the luxury tax. Harpring makes 6.5 million and that would be 13 million with the luxury tax.

This deal for us gives us a damn good post player in a contract year so I'm sure he would be busting his butt. This would take a lot of pressure off of Griffin and would give him one year to get his feet wet in the league.

Both of these deal are also 2010 cap friendly.

Det the Threat · Post #654 » by **Det the Threat** » Sun Jul 5, 2009 3:56 pm

There's no need to trade for Boozer.

We just gave away a 20/10 guy at this position for almost nothing, cause we needed more minutes for Blake Griffin.

Trading for either Harpring or Korver would be something to look at, but only if they gave us something extra(draft pick), because we're helping them gain financial flexiblity.

BTW: How about that TPE for Martell Webster?
Of course, only if he's cleared to be 100% again. If he's cleared by the doctors, then we'd get a solid 2/3 who can shoot the deep jumper and is still very young.

jgustav1 · Post #655 » by **jgustav1** » Sun Jul 5, 2009 4:04 pm

Hooch20 wrote:How about Q-Rich and Ricky for Boozer.

Then our TPE for either Korver or Harpring.

Sure we get the better out of this deal, but this deal helps the Jazz stay away from luxury tax hell and makes it much easier for them to sign Milsap to a long term deal. The Jazz are already at 73 million and that with Milsap scheduled to make 1 million this year. Trading our TPE for Korver would save them 5.15 million and 10.3 million with the luxury tax. Harpring makes 6.5 million and that would be 13 million with the luxury tax.

I'd want two future #1s Jazz picks back for adding all this salary in 2010 and providing them with the flexibility to sign Millsap without going over the cap.

Hooch20 · Post #656 » by **Hooch20** » Sun Jul 5, 2009 4:11 pm

Randolph leaving has more to do with his possible attitude problems and him having two years left on his contract. Boozer is in the final year of his contract and would make us much better while waiting to take a shot in 2010. I also don't see a reason why Boozer and Griffin couldn't play together. There aren't too many teams in the league that have centers that can truly hurt us. Getting Boozer would allow Griffin one year to get his feet wet and would take pressure off of him.

We could also just do the TPE and Harpring if the Jazz would give up the Knicks pick. The Knicks pick has a chance to be great, but is it $13 million great for the Jazz.

PlinkingPanda · Post #657 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Sun Jul 5, 2009 6:03 pm

Except you're forgetting we already have 3 big men in Kaman, Camby, and Griffin.. Adding a 4th only makes it a big mess that we had before the Z-Bo trade. Unless Griffin is willing to take a small role in his rookie season, one or perhaps 2 of these guys will be very unhappy with their minutes.

Nagging unhappy players would be just as bad as a "Portland Z-Bo". They'll create locker room issues and disrupt team chemistry. There's no reason to get a 4th starting big man on the team. I don't even see why Utah would even do this.. Both Q-Rich and Ricky expire at the end of the season.. and Boozer's contract does as well. What do they benefit out of this trade?

Only the TPE for Korver/Harpring would help them out.

Hooch20 · Post #658 » by **Hooch20** » Sun Jul 5, 2009 6:20 pm

Fishy~McFish wrote:What do they benefit out of this trade?

Only the TPE for Korver/Harpring would help them out.

You have to give something to get something. There's no need for us to do this deal unless we get something really nice in return. Should we just help out the for the hell of it? No we would have to get something.

Acquiring Boozer would help us win now more than Kaman or Boozer. Acquiring Boozer would still allow us to shop Kaman or Camby. Not to mention our centers are really injury prone. This basically amounts to who you'd rather have on your team. Ricky and Q or Boozer. I'd take Boozer every day of the week.

Marc · Post #659 » by **Marc** » Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:45 am

Marcus Camby $7,650,000 (expiring) + Ricky Davis $2,484,000 (expiring) + Mardy Collins $1,801,029 (expiring) + $7,014,971 TE for Ben Wallace $14,000,000 (expiring) + Aleksandar Pavlovic $4,950,000 + Earl Clark's rights + Taylor Griffin's rights

I am thinking that the Suns could accept because they are always looking to cut salaries for the upcoming season and they would improve their team for this season.

It_Was_Typed · Post #660 » by **It_Was_Typed** » Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:14 pm

The Suns are cheap and stupid, but they ain't cheap and stupid enough to give away Earl Clark and even Taylor Griffin yet.