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Re: Small Por-MN 

Post#21 » by mefromthefuture » Sat Jul 4, 2009 4:51 am

ChazzleDazzle wrote:What about Telfair, Songaila, Brown for Blake, Webster. Blazers trim the 3 year deal without going straight to expirings. We add a PG with size to back up Flynn this year and take a flyer on Webster.

Throw in a 2nd rounder if necessary.


I don't think Portland would take back Telfair.
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Post#22 » by B Calrissian » Sat Jul 4, 2009 5:20 am

mefromthefuture wrote:
ChazzleDazzle wrote:What about Telfair, Songaila, Brown for Blake, Webster. Blazers trim the 3 year deal without going straight to expirings. We add a PG with size to back up Flynn this year and take a flyer on Webster.

Throw in a 2nd rounder if necessary.


I don't think Portland would take back Telfair.


I don't think any team that has had him would take him back. Portland, Boston, and hopefully MN soon enough.
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Post#23 » by mefromthefuture » Sat Jul 4, 2009 5:22 am

B Calrissian wrote:
mefromthefuture wrote:
ChazzleDazzle wrote:What about Telfair, Songaila, Brown for Blake, Webster. Blazers trim the 3 year deal without going straight to expirings. We add a PG with size to back up Flynn this year and take a flyer on Webster.

Throw in a 2nd rounder if necessary.


I don't think Portland would take back Telfair.


I don't think any team that has had him would take him back. Portland, Boston, and hopefully MN soon enough.


I agree he hasn't been bad here or Boston but I believe there was problems in Portland.
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Post#24 » by B Calrissian » Sat Jul 4, 2009 5:29 am

Wasn't he playing for Boston when he got caught with "his girlfriends gun"? I don't want to give the Telfair name any hits on yahoo so I am not going to look it up. Regardless of that I think his play on court is enough for teams to not want him back.
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Post#25 » by cpfsf » Sat Jul 4, 2009 1:35 pm

I like Telfair a lot, but I hate his contract. I wouldn't mind trading him for someone who's contract doesn't last in 2010.
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Re: Small Por-MN 

Post#26 » by prefuse73 » Sat Jul 4, 2009 3:35 pm

Outlaw for Smith and a 2nd makes the most sense for both teams.

Smith gives them toughness (which they say they want) and would work extremely with both Pryzbilla and Oden. They are said to be after david lee now which makes no sense...thats high priced back up.

Outlaw would be very low risk and possibly high reward. He fills a needed role and if he doesn't work out... so what.
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Post#27 » by Krapinsky » Sat Jul 4, 2009 5:20 pm

This is moot if Hedo is going to Toronto
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Post#28 » by LOBO 7 » Sat Jul 4, 2009 5:54 pm

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:This is moot if Hedo is going to Toronto


Yeah, this sucks. I really wanted Fernandez and Outlaw to be on the block.
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Post#29 » by GopherIt! » Sat Jul 4, 2009 8:23 pm

I just don't see Webster as something worthwhile to invest in. I'd rather save that money and wait until next year and see what we can come up with.

Also, now that we added Songalia's guaranteed salary & the #5 pick our 2010 cap room is a going to be a bit leaner. Taking into account Al. Love, Brew, Song, Flynn, Ellington plus possibly Gomes, Bassy & Rubio we already have about 40M in 2010 salary on the books plus the capholds for potentially three first round picks next year. Assuming everything works out with Rubio we will hopefully be able to move Bassy and his 2.7M salary. With the picks, we'll probably only see our own next year but if we get into the top three that's another ~4-6M on the books. That leaves us between 41-43M in committed salary for 2010. The cap was about 58.68M in 2008-09. It is expected to go down a bit but even If it were to remain the same that would leave us with somewhere between 15.5-17.5M to make trades and go after FA's.

Those are just my rough estimates but I think you get the idea. It may be a long shot but I hope we leave enough room to at least be able to offer someone a max deal. Without trading Gomes or another player (in addition to Bassy), Webster's 4M might affect our ablility to make that offer.
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Post#30 » by shrink » Mon Jul 6, 2009 6:56 pm

One of the things I tease POR posters about is that they never are willing to offer any of their best 3 (and sometimes 4 and 5) best guys -- they are "off limits," but they want other team's #2 and sometimes #1 guys by piling up their bench players.

Truthfully though, they have bench players with some promise, if they had more opportunity. Now, they think every one is a potential star (I can't believe all the hype I heard about Sergio Rodriguez when Prichard got him in a POR uniform), but guys like Outlaw, and maybe even Webster, can play. This has to be frustrating to them too to be on such a crowded team with a few chosen ones, and a lot of youth that need minutes to develop.

I'd swap for Outlaw, but I wouldn't risk the cap space on Webster (not a Prichard pick). Dr K is right, that there is a lot of buy-low/sell-high potential there, but his small deal:

4,319,654 4,773,218 5,226,782

,, is just too much risk to me, since I feel we could get a better return trading raw cap space in 2010.

I guess we need to wait and see anyway. When the thread was being discussed, Turkoglu was all the rage, and now they are talking to David Lee, which would kill interest in Craig Smith.

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