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OT - Other teams moves 

Post#1 » by evildallas » Fri Jul 3, 2009 9:21 pm

I already had a thread venting on the Detroit moves, but I've decided to open up a thread for all other moves.

Lakers sign Artest - I like this move because Artest can normally be kept in check if you have a bigger star on the team. It's not expensive and it's as substantial as any other signing so far. Lakers still have work to do but are looking like a serious repeat contender.

Rockets sign Ariza - 5yrs/35M, I think this one will backfire as Ariza looked good in a different system with different talent. Will he be successful when as a #2 option (or even a #3)? I'm seeing a rough scrappy season for the Rockets. The other reason I don't really like it is that the move puts the Rockets near the luxury tax ($39M in injured stars) for a season that is likely to have little upside. I'm expecting some trades. Supposedly they wouldn't pay Gortat the full MLE, but then they turn around and pay it to Ariza?

Blazers sign Hedo - I've no problem with the Hedo signing. I assume that the Blazers other big move is the rumored sign and trade for Andre Miller. That would upgrade their 2 weakest spots to compete now. The only concern is the potential disruption of team chemistry. I think Rudy will ultimately cope with being the 6th man. The length of deal is a little questionable, but necessary to close the deal. If they can manage the egos they improved their standing in the West.

Mavericks sign Gortat and resign Kidd - Gortat is a calculated risk, but the Mavericks have bad luck with acquiring bigs. He could still be matched as the Magic change their public story daily. The Kidd signing is reportedly for 3yrs/27M. That seems crazy to me and likely affects our Bibby negotiations. The most anyone else was going to offer Kidd was 3yrs/18M although I doubt many wanted to offer a full 3 years. Why so generous? It's not like the trade was a smashing success. Supposedly they are shopping Dampier's expiring contract which could bring back a useful piece or two, but the moves so far strike me as just treading water in the middle of the Western conference.

Cavaliers flirt but haven't closed the deal. Supposed the Cavs were going to land Charlie V, then it was Ron-Ron, or Ariza and even Jason Kidd was mentioned. So far they've signed no one. Signing a SF didn't make sense unless they were thinking of playing them as SG or playing Lebron there. They did turn spare parts into Shaq, but they still could use a PF with more range (especially on D), but not sure who that might be.

That's all the signings that I currently know of. At this point Rasheed and AI are still rumors. I'll weigh in on more if they become firm. Please post your comments on all of the free agent action. Got to pass the time until we get some Hawks news.
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Re: OT - Other teams moves 

Post#2 » by deeps6x » Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:32 pm

If the Raptors really have made a deal with Marion, it means Marvin isn't going anywhere for more than the MLE or QO. I'm sure he will take the QO and try his luck in 2010. At least he will be playing his a$$ off every game this year.
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Post#3 » by HMFFL » Sat Jul 4, 2009 1:27 am

I expect Turk to sign with Toronto now that he rejected Portland. Marion wants 50 million and Toronto is only offering around 35 million. Time for the Raps to pass on Marion and sign Turk.
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Post#4 » by JoshB914 » Sat Jul 4, 2009 3:03 am

The Raptors have no idea what they're doing. If they are trying to convince Bosh to stay by signing Turkoglu to $11M/year then they might as well go ahead and pack his bags for him.
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Post#5 » by evildallas » Sat Jul 4, 2009 3:52 am

I like Turkoglu over Marion, but I'm not really feeling the Toronto roster overall in either case. I wonder what Portland's plan B is.
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Post#6 » by JoshB914 » Sat Jul 4, 2009 5:36 am

^^^ Do they have to even have a plan b? Turkoglu would have been a solid addition, but what they really need is a backcourt mate for B Roy. Give him that and I think they will be title contenders in a couple of seasons.
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Post#7 » by HMFFL » Mon Jul 6, 2009 12:54 am

Rasheed Wallace commits to Celtics

An NBA source said tonight that Detroit free agent forward Rasheed Wallace has committed to sign with the Celtics on July 8 when free agents are able to sign. Wallace is expected to get a two-year deal using the mid-level exception (expected to be about $5.6 million to $5.8 million). Celtics All-Star trio of Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, owner Wyc Grousbeck, coach Doc Rivers and president Danny Ainge met with Wallace last week. Wallace turned down overtures from Orlando and San Antonio to commit to Boston.
The Celtics also have interest in Suns free agent forward Grant Hill. Despite a Fanhouse report that Rivers was to meet with Hill today in Orlando, its uncertain if he did and Rivers declined comment. All Boston can offer is the $1.9 million bi-annual exception. Link
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Post#8 » by ATL DirtyBird » Mon Jul 6, 2009 2:52 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4307834
So basically this means another Eastern Conference Power is gettnig stronger. The Hawks got Jamal Crawford. If the Hawks dont make another considerable splash, were gonna get raped in the second round, hell maybe even the first round with the improvement of the Wizards.
Is it to much to ask for a team that plays hard and cares? Seems so.
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Post#9 » by evildallas » Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:01 am

If KG's intensity can light a fire under Sheed it will be a great move. If he's not that motivated it is merely a good move. I don't see a downside at those prices. Before anyone says that we should have gone after Rasheed please note that we didn't have the ability to go higher and until we get a step or two further in the playoffs we aren't going to be a valued destination for bargain vets.
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Post#10 » by killbuckner » Mon Jul 6, 2009 1:43 pm

I think that one of the most important "moves" is the lack of interest in marvin williams. No rumors over Toronto throwing a big offer his way. No rumors of the blazers cutting him a check to see if the Hawks will match. He just isn't on anyone's radar screen that I can tell.
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Post#11 » by HMFFL » Mon Jul 6, 2009 2:33 pm

Grant Hill possibly signing with Boston.

Glen Davis is most likely signing with San Antonio.

It is also my belief that Grant Hill will sign with Boston after meeting face-to-face with Doc Rivers by the end of the week. Glen Davis could be gone to San Antonio, as they are prepared to offer their mid-level slot, which it is my understanding that Boston will not match. Davis is a restricted free-agent and any offer he receives can be matched by the Celtics within 7 days. Link
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Post#12 » by killbuckner » Mon Jul 6, 2009 2:59 pm

Signing Glen Davis to a full MLE contract does not seem like the kind of move the Spurs would make.
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Post#13 » by theatlfan » Mon Jul 6, 2009 3:50 pm

killbuckner wrote:Signing Glen Davis to a full MLE contract does not seem like the kind of move the Spurs would make.
On the surface, no, but SAS doesn't have a lot of depth in the front court. After Duncan, they have everyone's favorite 2nd rounder - DeJuan Blair, and Matt Bonner. I'm sure there could be some low cost vets that could favor them (Oberto was cut from DET... right?), but Big Baby might be the best on the market right now...
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Post#14 » by lunarblues » Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:04 pm

killbuckner wrote:I think that one of the most important "moves" is the lack of interest in marvin williams. No rumors over Toronto throwing a big offer his way. No rumors of the blazers cutting him a check to see if the Hawks will match. He just isn't on anyone's radar screen that I can tell.


it could be one of two reasons (maybe even both):

1) teams don't want to tie their cap money up in a guy that stands a very good chance of being resigned. RFA's usually don't get looked at until after the good UFA's are already gone. it took josh smith until mid august for a team to actually offer him a sheet.

2) marvin isn't a top tier free agent. it's pretty obvious that david lee is looked at as a more attainable free agent. marvin's not gonna be looked at until david is off the board.
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Post#15 » by HMFFL » Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:04 pm

theatlfan wrote:
killbuckner wrote:Signing Glen Davis to a full MLE contract does not seem like the kind of move the Spurs would make.
On the surface, no, but SAS doesn't have a lot of depth in the front court. After Duncan, they have everyone's favorite 2nd rounder - DeJuan Blair, and Matt Bonner. I'm sure there could be some low cost vets that could favor them (Oberto was cut from DET... right?), but Big Baby might be the best on the market right now...


They signed Marcus Haislip. He put up good numbers overseas and is very athletic.

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Compared to Al Horford: 31.0/35.5

Another option for them is Tiago Splitter.
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Post#16 » by lunarblues » Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:08 pm

tiago is still in the middle of that big contract over in europe. i don't think he is coming over this year. i hope marcus does good this time around. he didn't have the mental part of the game down when he was last in the NBA. hopefully he is a better player now.
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Post#17 » by evildallas » Mon Jul 6, 2009 7:44 pm

San Antonio is a franchise that gets the benefit of the doubt on every move they make (deservedly so). I don't see them throwing the full MLE for Glen Davis. They might contact him to see if there is a bargain price they could attain him for given Boston signing of Wallace. Overpaying because a guy stepped up for a couple weeks doesn't seem like something they'd do, but the big guy supply is dwindling so I could be wrong. I'd much rather they (San Antonio) pursue Davis than turn to Zaza.
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Post#18 » by HMFFL » Tue Jul 7, 2009 3:40 am

Dallas, if the Spurs really want Glen Davis they must offer him the full MLE, because I believe Boston matches any other offer. I just hope the Spurs end up signing him because ZaZa could be next on the list.
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Post#19 » by evildallas » Tue Jul 7, 2009 5:10 am

HMFFL wrote:Dallas, if the Spurs really want Glen Davis they must offer him the full MLE, because I believe Boston matches any other offer. I just hope the Spurs end up signing him because ZaZa could be next on the list.


You are probably right. I just see warning signs of Glen Davis being a flop signing and San Antonio hasn't had many of those. I too would love for the Spurs to be out of contention for Zaza. I don't feel he's as easily replaced as some have posted. There aren't that many Centers available.
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Post#20 » by evildallas » Tue Jul 7, 2009 5:12 am

Can't wait for the signing period to begin so that the number of silly rumors gets reduced a little.
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