LAC/MIN

SportsFan215 · Post #1 » by **SportsFan215** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:06 am

Would you guys do this deal?

Kaman/Thornton for Love/Cardinal/Madsen

This gives the Wolves a real center so Al can be a full-time PF, and they get a young, scoring wing on a rookie contract.

dunkonu21 · Post #2 » by **dunkonu21** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:09 am

NOOOOOOOO

jade_hippo · Post #3 » by **jade_hippo** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:25 am

Thornton doesn't really do anything for me. Kaman has a really really bloated contract.

I'm not even sure the clippers do this. they'd still have a logjam in their frontcourt with Camby/Griffin/Jordan, it'd just get worse with another young guy wanting PT.

Esohny · Post #4 » by **Esohny** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:38 am

There is no reason for this for either team.

Post #5 » by **The J Rocka** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:40 am

Clippers had their chance to dump Kaman here

jade_hippo · Post #6 » by **jade_hippo** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 6:10 am

the only way i'd take Kaman on is if we got Gordon in the deal.

Foye · Post #7 » by **Foye** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 7:28 am

No. Kaman is hurt in about half the games of the season.

jgustav1 · Post #8 » by **jgustav1** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 8:08 am

SportsFan215 wrote:Would you guys do this deal?

Kaman/Thornton for Love/Cardinal/Madsen

This gives the Wolves a real center so Al can be a full-time PF, and they get a young, scoring wing on a rookie contract.

The Clippers aren't going to give up two starters for expirings and Love, who would end up being Blake Griffin's backup. They wouldn't offer it to Minnesota in the first place.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #9 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 1:11 pm

Love would be starting with Griffin you quasi-noob. Most importantly, when your team is absolute suck all, being a starter is not quite as relevant as 2 starters from the Lakers.

Let me give you an example: "yea, sorry man, gonna have to reject that Ryan Gomes and Sebastian Telfair for Eric Gordon trade because holy ****, that's 2 starters! We can't break up that sweet chemistry we got going. "
See, it doesn't make sense.

shrink · Post #10 » by **shrink** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 1:58 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:Love would be starting with Griffin you quasi-noob. Most importantly, when your team is absolute suck all, being a starter is not quite as relevant as 2 starters from the Lakers.

Let me give you an example: "yea, sorry man, gonna have to reject that Ryan Gomes and Sebastian Telfair for Eric Gordon trade because holy ****, that's 2 starters! We can't break up that sweet chemistry we got going. "
See, it doesn't make sense.

Made me laugh.

I don't think the LAC offer has close to enough value for Kevin Love. Kaman's contract is too dangerous and we can do better by waiting a year, keeping Love, and trading the raw 2010 cap space. Thorton does nothing for me -- even as a starter on the Clippers.

funkatron101 · Post #11 » by **funkatron101** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:09 pm

Makes no sense for either team.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #12 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:40 pm

except the Clippers who get a great deal

jgustav1 · Post #13 » by **jgustav1** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:41 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:Love would be starting with Griffin you quasi-noob. Most importantly, when your team is absolute suck all, being a starter is not quite as relevant as 2 starters from the Lakers.

Let me give you an example: "yea, sorry man, gonna have to reject that Ryan Gomes and Sebastian Telfair for Eric Gordon trade because holy ****, that's 2 starters! We can't break up that sweet chemistry we got going. "
See, it doesn't make sense.

No, Devilzsidewalk you are wrong. Love would backup both Camby at C and Griffin at PF, maybe Griffin is quick enough to play some SF at times so in theory Love could get 30+ minutes but it would be as a backup. This trade won't go down anyway so it is pointless to debate it.

jgustav1 · Post #14 » by **jgustav1** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:45 pm

shrink wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:Love would be starting with Griffin you quasi-noob. Most importantly, when your team is absolute suck all, being a starter is not quite as relevant as 2 starters from the Lakers.

Let me give you an example: "yea, sorry man, gonna have to reject that Ryan Gomes and Sebastian Telfair for Eric Gordon trade because holy ****, that's 2 starters! We can't break up that sweet chemistry we got going. "
See, it doesn't make sense.

Made me laugh.

I don't think the LAC offer has close to enough value for Kevin Love. Kaman's contract is too dangerous and we can do better by waiting a year, keeping Love, and trading the raw 2010 cap space. Thorton does nothing for me -- even as a starter on the Clippers.

Laughable how people overrate their own players, he should be a starting PF but doesn't block shots and doesn't have the explosiveness to play ahead of Blake Griffin.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #15 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:53 pm

C Love
PF Griffin

fin

jgustav1 · Post #16 » by **jgustav1** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:15 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:C Love
PF Griffin

fin

No shot blocking.

dunkonu21 · Post #17 » by **dunkonu21** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:32 pm

Devilz is right this would be a steal for the Clippers.

Although he's wrong about what the line-up would be if they stole Love from us in this deal.

It'd be:

SF: Griffin

PF: Love
C: Camby/Jordan

Fin!

mandurugo · Post #18 » by **mandurugo** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:32 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:C Love
PF Griffin

fin

Love is a small power forward, he can't play center. That combo is almost as bad as Love/Jefferson - it's fine for the regular season but it ain't going nowhere in the playoffs... if it ever gets there.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #19 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:57 pm

no, I'm right. Love has an advantage against centers by taking them out of the paint with his jumper and using his quickness on the glass to get position and he has enough strength to defend them. Against PFs they're going to be in his grill the whole way on offense D'ing him up and can kill him offensively with their speed advantage.

john2jer · Post #20 » by **john2jer** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:00 pm

Kaman has proven he can't play with a PF the caliber of Elton Brand, how would he play with Jefferson? Um, no thanks. Big Al would be all "WTF, mate?"

Thornton is ok, but he's not that much of an upgrade over Ryan Gomes.