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Post#21 » by sportsmikegm23 » Wed Jul 8, 2009 9:30 pm

Wow...I wonder if Kroenke is kicking himself for not trying to bring McDyess in? The Spurs now are back to being the front runners. The Lakers are there if they re-sign Odom...or Portland.. We are no better than 3rd and a toss up for 4th in the conference. Looking like a Boston/San Antonio final.

The starting 5 for those teams are almost like an all-star team...
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Post#22 » by MHZ » Wed Jul 8, 2009 11:32 pm

The Nuggets had no shot at McDyess. He wants nothing to do with the franchise after his last stint here, which is pretty tacky. Not to mention, he's making over 5 mil a year for SA, something they couldn't have paid him.
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Post#23 » by sportsmikegm23 » Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:07 am

Come on MHZ... they didn't have to just give up on him...we had his rights...force him to retire, trade him somewhere...the Nuggets didn't have to just let him walk... They never talked to him to come here... never!!! He was quoted after the Pistons game here...didn't know why everyone was booing him... the Nuggets never wanted him here. Kroenke wanted under the cap... more than he even gave McDyess a chance... I am sure McDyess didn't want to be here, but they could have traded his 6 mill to another team for another piece instead of savings and could have helped. The Nuggets owner and FO did not try... now Kroenke will be kicking himself cause Dyess wth Duncan is going to kick ass.
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Post#24 » by sportsmikegm23 » Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:33 am

I think cheapskate Kroenke should trade Melo to Detroit for a few 2nd round picks.... he's so damn worried about his precious bottom line...
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Post#25 » by RINSE » Thu Jul 9, 2009 12:06 pm

The Rebel wrote:Another thing that has somewhat surprised me a little is the Cavs lack of done deals. They have been rumored to be after just about everybody in the league, yet they cannot get a free agent to commit? Something tells me either players do not believe that Lebron is going to be back, or they do not believe that team will win and do not want to be the fall guys for Lebron, as usually happens to his teammates.


I am wondering if someone could explain to me what the hell Toronto is thinking. I understand not resigning Marion, but to sign Turkoglu for just about every penny of their cap space while renouncing Marion, Parker, 2-3 bench players, the LLE, and the MLE is just plain dumb. Especially when you consider they do not even have a decent starting 5, as their projected Sg and just about the only Sg on the roster is the 9th pick from this draft, Their bench is also an assortment of overpaid scrubs and unproven players. Can anybody honestly see this team winning more then 33 games next year?

Calderon/ Ukic/ minimum contract level PG
Derozan/ Quincy Douby/ minimum contract level Sg
Hedo/minimum contract level SF
Bosh/ Reggie Evans/ Kris Humphries
Bargnani/ Jawai/ O'Bryant

Who plays defense, and who is the one or two guys that can actually play that will come off the bench? That has got to be the worst bench in the league, and outside of Derozan they still have nobody that actually can and like to play anywhere close to the paint.


I guess it all makes sense now, doesn't it?

4-team deal which includes Orlando.

So essentially, the Raptors get Turkoglu, Wright, George AND get to keep their MLE & LLE.

Calderon/Ukic
Delfino/DeRozan/Wright
Turkoglu/ Kleiza or Barnes (MLE,speculating) / George
Bosh/Evans
Bargnani/Rasho (LLE)
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Post#26 » by The Rebel » Thu Jul 9, 2009 12:13 pm

A 75-80 million dollar payroll as the Nuggets will have does not shout someone that is worried more about the bottom line, then he is about winning. The fact of the matter is that the Nuggets have their big contracts, and they have 7-8 of their rotation players already under contract. We don't need a bunch of overpaid end of the rotation guys, and we still have plenty of players available that we can use to get the 8-12th men. Right now we are looking to fill out our bench, and after the way the front office filled it out last year I am more the willing to give them some leeway.
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Post#27 » by Teens On Acid » Thu Jul 9, 2009 12:21 pm

The Rebel wrote:A 75-80 million dollar payroll as the Nuggets will have does not shout someone that is worried more about the bottom line, then he is about winning. The fact of the matter is that the Nuggets have their big contracts, and they have 7-8 of their rotation players already under contract. We don't need a bunch of overpaid end of the rotation guys, and we still have plenty of players available that we can use to get the 8-12th men. Right now we are looking to fill out our bench, and after the way the front office filled it out last year I am more the willing to give them some leeway.


i'm with you, there's way to much panic going on around here.
we STILL have JR, Melo, Chauncey, Birdman, Nene, Kenyon, Balk and it looks like Carter and Kleiza too...so we lost DJ..no biggie, we got Ty Lawson!!

no more stars needed...just tough bench players.
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Post#28 » by el loco » Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:30 pm

sportsmikegm23 wrote:Come on MHZ... they didn't have to just give up on him...we had his rights...force him to retire, trade him somewhere...the Nuggets didn't have to just let him walk... They never talked to him to come here... never!!! He was quoted after the Pistons game here...didn't know why everyone was booing him... the Nuggets never wanted him here. Kroenke wanted under the cap... more than he even gave McDyess a chance... I am sure McDyess didn't want to be here, but they could have traded his 6 mill to another team for another piece instead of savings and could have helped. The Nuggets owner and FO did not try... now Kroenke will be kicking himself cause Dyess wth Duncan is going to kick ass.


Both the Nuggets and Mcdyess should have put their differences aside and found a way to make it work. Now the Nuggets are paying him to play for the Spurs. I know the FO has done a lot to redeem itself in some of their more recent moves, but this one comes back to be a slap in the face to them. If Mcdyess had any loyalty or respect to the Nuggets he wouldn't have signed with the Spurs or would he?
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Post#29 » by MidMountain » Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:50 pm

el loco wrote:
Both the Nuggets and Mcdyess should have put their differences aside and found a way to make it work. Now the Nuggets are paying him to play for the Spurs. I know the FO has done a lot to redeem itself in some of their more recent moves, but this one comes back to be a slap in the face to them. If Mcdyess had any loyalty or respect to the Nuggets he wouldn't have signed with the Spurs or would he?

The current FO administration weren't even the ones who wronged McDyess several years ago. I guess Denver just left a bad taste in his mouth.
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Post#30 » by el loco » Thu Jul 9, 2009 4:00 pm

MidMountain wrote:
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Both the Nuggets and Mcdyess should have put their differences aside and found a way to make it work. Now the Nuggets are paying him to play for the Spurs. I know the FO has done a lot to redeem itself in some of their more recent moves, but this one comes back to be a slap in the face to them. If Mcdyess had any loyalty or respect to the Nuggets he wouldn't have signed with the Spurs or would he?

The current FO administration weren't even the ones who wronged McDyess several years ago. I guess Denver just left a bad taste in his mouth.


I don't disagree with that, but it must go both ways.
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Post#31 » by The Rebel » Thu Jul 9, 2009 6:04 pm

**** McDyess, I am so tired of hearing about the guy. He did not want to be in Denver, and Kroenke did not want to pay an additional $12 million in salary and tax for a guy who did no want to be here. That is not the type of guy we need in the lockeroom. Especially since he seems to blame the Nuggets organization for the crappy medical staff of the Knicks.

As for our front office, Bearup and Kroneke were directly involved in his trade to New York. There may be a reason they did not want him here anymore then he wanted to be here. People forget there was a mutiny in the lockerroom back around that time, with McDyess's buddy Van Exel the leader of it. Now I am not saying he was a part, but knowing what a follower McDyess always was, and the way he always cried about being here last time, let him go.
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Post#32 » by MHZ » Thu Jul 9, 2009 6:58 pm

Everybody assumed he was bolting as soon as he was a free agent. They traded him to get something for him, rather than let him walk for nothing.
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Post#33 » by The Rebel » Thu Jul 9, 2009 7:21 pm

MHZ wrote:Everybody assumed he was bolting as soon as he was a free agent. They traded him to get something for him, rather than let him walk for nothing.


that was the 1st time, the 2nd time we had him locked up for another year with a player option on the 2nd year if I remember right. Now that is not to say that is not the excuse the front office used the 2nd time, but with the way he reacted to getting traded to Denver, and the way the front office paid him to go away, I am beginning to believe there is more to the story.
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Post#34 » by el loco » Thu Jul 9, 2009 7:28 pm

The Rebel wrote:
MHZ wrote:Everybody assumed he was bolting as soon as he was a free agent. They traded him to get something for him, rather than let him walk for nothing.


that was the 1st time, the 2nd time we had him locked up for another year with a player option on the 2nd year if I remember right. Now that is not to say that is not the excuse the front office used the 2nd time, but with the way he reacted to getting traded to Denver, and the way the front office paid him to go away, I am beginning to believe there is more to the story.


I thought it was a good trade for the Nuggets then and I still think it was. He was happy to be going to NY at the time and before being traded there, he was telling the organization that he would like to be traded. It isn't there fault that he blew his knee out again his first year with the Knicks. Maybe he really didn't want to be traded in the first place. I also don't know if I buy all of the story with Phoenix and players of that team being left out in the cold when he signed that 2nd contract with the Nuggets.

But, he is a good player, seems to accept his role very well, and the Nuggets are paying him to play for a team that they compete against, which kinda sorta sucks. :lol:
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Post#35 » by UNLVNugsFan » Thu Jul 9, 2009 7:55 pm

With Portland supposedly interested in signing Milsap (strange, I know), I wonder if there is any chance that they would be interested in trading Pryzbilla for our trade exception. I know its always a huge question mark when dealing with division rivals, but I may be willing to help weaken Utah, slightly improve (ugh) Portland and improve us at the same time by making it easier on Portland to sign Milsap.
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Post#36 » by The Rebel » Thu Jul 9, 2009 7:57 pm

I was just reading Hollinger's chat and he seems to think they will keep Pryzbilla just in case Oden goes down again. Seems like a lot of money to spend on a 4th or 5th big, but I can see the reasoning.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/27361
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Post#37 » by The Rebel » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:04 pm

LA pulling Odom's offer, am I missing something? there is no way they can honestly thing that Artest will replace Ariza and Odom is there? I know Odom has his problems but he has long been a key piece to their team.

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