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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#21 » by Kerrsed » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:28 pm

TXSun wrote:keeping Amare is only 1/4 of what we need to achieve this off season.

1. keep Amare
2. extend Nash
3. resign Hill
4. trade Wallace for Dalembert


Fixed it for you!

I just dont like what is going on. I cant stand watching Nash get humiliated on D for another 3 years. Grant Hill was one of my favorite players in the 90's ( i had like 3 pairs of his shoes! Do you remember these...
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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#22 » by BobbieL » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:07 pm

TXSun wrote:GREAT FIND!

looks like we are 3/4 done. Now we just need Chandler.

they are buying out Wallace - that deal is not happening

i am guessing, its been discussed, and if the suns buyout wallace - no chandler, no dalembert, nobody is coming
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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#23 » by JohnVancouver » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:19 pm

[quote="Sun Scorched"

It sounds to me more and more that Nash is guiding the offseason a bit. The contract negotiations, waiting to "see" the direction of the team, calling Grant with the PHX sales pitch, etc.

If I was Nash, I would say I want 14 million, then come down off of it and say okay, but with the extra money you sign player x or players x & y. You know, with the money you're saving on me give me some tools to work with this next year.[/quote]

----- Good point, but now that we're hearing there's an agreement at 3x$11mil, I wonder if that $2mil the team saved on his deal this year is going to be used? I'm honestly surprised he is coming back. I think it's more than loyalty to the town and team, omething else is going on and he has reason to believe we'll actually try to put a competitive team out there this year.

Wouldn't that be nice?
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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#24 » by GoSunsGo » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:24 pm

maaaaaaaaaaaaan!

Not surprised in the least. I was HOPING they would re-evaluate their options, and maybe take another look at Chandler since he's deemed to be damaged goods. I would love to see Camby here. That'd be sweet. But I dont see that happening. I think the Suns are just gonna run with what they have. Who knows, maybe they'll surprise us and sign someone else.
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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#25 » by JohnVancouver » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:45 pm

aa86 wrote:maaaaaaaaaaaaan!

Not surprised in the least. I was HOPING they would re-evaluate their options, and maybe take another look at Chandler since he's deemed to be damaged goods. I would love to see Camby here. That'd be sweet. But I dont see that happening. I think the Suns are just gonna run with what they have. Who knows, maybe they'll surprise us and sign someone else.


maybe we keep Stro at the min and he gets one last chance to do something in this league.
I'd love to see that happen but I don't expect it
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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#26 » by BobbieL » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:52 pm

JohnVancouver wrote:[quote="Sun Scorched"

It sounds to me more and more that Nash is guiding the offseason a bit. The contract negotiations, waiting to "see" the direction of the team, calling Grant with the PHX sales pitch, etc.

If I was Nash, I would say I want 14 million, then come down off of it and say okay, but with the extra money you sign player x or players x & y. You know, with the money you're saving on me give me some tools to work with this next year.


----- Good point, but now that we're hearing there's an agreement at 3x$11mil, I wonder if that $2mil the team saved on his deal this year is going to be used? I'm honestly surprised he is coming back. I think it's more than loyalty to the town and team, omething else is going on and he has reason to believe we'll actually try to put a competitive team out there this year.

Wouldn't that be nice?[/quote]

There is no savings on Nash - he makes $13m this year and then the next two years total $20m. His salary does not drop to $11, $11, $11 - the two years is just an extension of current.
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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#27 » by realsunsfan » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:01 pm

BobbieL wrote:
JohnVancouver wrote:[quote="Sun Scorched"

It sounds to me more and more that Nash is guiding the offseason a bit. The contract negotiations, waiting to "see" the direction of the team, calling Grant with the PHX sales pitch, etc.

If I was Nash, I would say I want 14 million, then come down off of it and say okay, but with the extra money you sign player x or players x & y. You know, with the money you're saving on me give me some tools to work with this next year.


----- Good point, but now that we're hearing there's an agreement at 3x$11mil, I wonder if that $2mil the team saved on his deal this year is going to be used? I'm honestly surprised he is coming back. I think it's more than loyalty to the town and team, omething else is going on and he has reason to believe we'll actually try to put a competitive team out there this year.

Wouldn't that be nice?


There is no savings on Nash - he makes $13m this year and then the next two years total $20m. His salary does not drop to $11, $11, $11 - the two years is just an extension of current.[/quote]

Actually after this year, as you say he makes 13 mil right ?, then the next two yrs it drops to 10 mil a yr, so isn't that 3 mil a yr off the payroll total ??
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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#28 » by thamadkant » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:14 pm

I dont mind the Nash signing if it happens nor the Hill one..

Partial rebuild then it seems...


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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#29 » by BobbieL » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:14 pm

Correct - after this year his salary per year drops. But I was just stating the his 2009-2010 salary will be the $13m.
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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#30 » by JohnVancouver » Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:41 am

BobbieL wrote:Correct - after this year his salary per year drops. But I was just stating the his 2009-2010 salary will be the $13m.


first reports were confusing. I thought he had a signed a new 3-yr deal that superseded the old one, as some players have done.
Anyway, I think that's in line with what most fo us thought we should pay, though Gob knows why he wants to stay here given the way things are going
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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#31 » by The Diesel » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:13 am

The very latest on Nash:

Friday's re-signing of Grant Hill and Steve Nash's subsequent congratulatory messages via Twitter are the latest signals that the Phoenix Suns will achieve their No. 1 priority this offseason by securing Nash's signature on a contract extension.

Nash, though, is still weighing his options.

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Sources with knowledge of the negotiations told ESPN.com that the sides are still working out the terms of a two-year contract extension and that the two-time NBA Most Valuable Player -- who wanted to see what sort of roster maneuvering Phoenix accomplished before committing to finishing his career in the desert -- has not ruled out playing out the final year of his contract next season to become an unrestricted free agent in July 2010.

Suns owner Robert Sarver said via e-mail Friday that he awaits the response to the team's latest formal presentation to agent Bill Duffy made earlier this week. The Suns' two-year extension offer is believed to be worth in the region of $20 million.

Sarver said further negotiations are scheduled for next week when Suns officials and Duffy are in Las Vegas for the NBA's annual summer league here.

"I am hopeful," Sarver said. "[Nash] likes Phoenix and we like him."

The expectation remains that the sides will eventually reach an extension agreement. Via his Twitter account Friday, Nash appeared to drop a couple hints by welcoming the signings of Hill and Channing Frye and sending birthday wishes to Suns swingman Jared Dudley.

Yet it's also believed that Nash still has questions about the Suns' ability to reload roster-wise in the next year or two to make a return to the Western Conference elite within the three years an extension would span.

As for Hill, knowing that he'll definitely be playing alongside Nash next season -- along with the Suns' beefed-up offer -- was enough to convince him to stay in Phoenix instead of signing with the New York Knicks or Boston Celtics.

The Suns certainly could move Nash this summer if they wanted, but they've made it known to anyone calling with trade interest -- most notably Portland -- that they will not part with Nash even if he insists on playing out his current contract to have the right to shop himself in the summer of 2010.

In the event Nash did choose to take that route, Hill's new two-year, $6.2 million contract contains an opt-out provision that will enable him to return to free agency next summer as well.

"It's important for Grant that Steve be there next year," Hill's agent, Lon Babby, told reporters during a conference call Friday. "I know they have had conversations, so I think he's quite confident that the team that's coming back next year is going to be a highly, highly competitive team, and obviously that would include Steve Nash. But you need to get those [extension] specifics from the Suns."

Nash's public comments on the subject, such as his Friday tweets, have generally given Phoenix hope that he is preparing to spend the next three seasons in the desert -- which would take him to age 38 -- in spite of the Suns' recent slide in the West. During the opening of another Steve Nash Sports Club in his native Canada last week, Nash said: "I still believe in everybody there and still think we can build a winner."

But Nash also made mention during that news conference in Vancouver of the "financial constraints" that prompted the Suns to trade Shaquille O'Neal to Cleveland for two expiring contracts (Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic) after O'Neal's first and only full season as a Sun resulted in a 46-36 record that featured the midseason firing of coach Terry Porter and a failure to make the playoffs.

"We maybe don't have the deep pockets of some of the other teams," Nash said.

Since the O'Neal trade, Phoenix has drafted Earl Clark with the 14th overall pick and made two relatively cap-friendly signings Friday in Hill and Frye. They've also flirted with trading Amare Stoudemire, but NBA front-office sources said that the Suns were already strongly leaning toward taking Stoudemire completely off the trade market before Stoudemire's disclosure via Twitter on Friday afternoon that he was undergoing another eye surgery.

The Suns later announced that it was a minor outpatient procedure stemming from his Feb. 20 surgery to repair a detached retina in his right eye and that Stoudemire will be able to resume workouts in 10 days.

"It was a routine drainage of a small amount of residual fluid that was simply the next step," team ophthalmologist Jay Schwartz said in a statement.

The Suns explored trading Stoudemire in February and again recently in conjunction with the draft but had begun to tell other teams that they were inclined to keep him for another season to play in the up-tempo system that has been restored under new coach Alvin Gentry.

"They were in that mode," one rival executive said of the Suns' stance, which was reached even though Stoudemire is likewise eligible to be a free agent in July 2010 and has been openly disappointed about the Suns' reluctance to sign him to a contract extension.


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Re: Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash 

Post#32 » by WTFsunsFTW » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:27 am

dont post the same thing in every topic, we all read the top threads...

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