Boneman2 wrote:^^^ That's what I'm saying Scoot. Murphy is a double- double factory. Most contenders will give up something for that kind of production. Would you really want to throw in Hansbrough or a first when you don't have to? I certainly wouldn't. To a team like the Cavs Murphy would offer a solution to their frontcourt woes with minimal risk involved.
Ford can also be moved for expirings, plus incentive.
Foster can be moved for exprings, plus incentive too.
If a deal comes along, and the Simons wan't to avoid the tax, they'll deal at their discretion. My guess is the brothers like the mental makeup of our team and won't mind adding Jack to the bottomline. They'll pay whatever this year and enter next season with numerous options all over the roster. I wouldn't throw away the future by doing double-negative trades to avoid a few million.
I think we're getting confused here.
In theory, in a normal year, with normal luxury tax increases, etc. we could trade Ford, Murphy, and Foster for expirings most likely, and possibly a bit of incentive.
However, in this case, if we're operating under the assumption that the luxury tax is going to go down around $7-10 million in the 2010-11 season, when Foster, Ford, and Murphy would all still be on the books, there's no way we're going to get a team to pay the luxury tax for Foster, Ford, and Murphy, AND give us value, or take on the luxury tax of those 3 guys without us giving up value.
That's the issue. And, while I respect osiris, he's one Cav's fan. I highly doubt management has ANY intention to trade Ilgauskas in a normal year, a guy that's been with that franchise for a decade. A more talented Jeff Foster, if you will; let alone trade Ilgauskas for Murphy, when doing so means they would pay almost $22 million extra in salary and luxury tax payments in 2010/11 without expecting some major incentive to do so.
Once again, if the luxury tax rises, or at least stays level, we're looking at a COMPLETELY different economy and set of trade values for ALL of our players not named Danny Granger than if the luxury tax level drops DRAMATICALLY, as the league is warning. At that point, you're looking at 20-25 NBA teams over the luxury tax, and almost no possible way to get expirings or get under the luxury tax before then, as those expirings in the summer of 2010 will have infinite value not for getting a LeBron or Wade, but rather for getting a team under the drastically lower luxury tax.
