Boozer's not going anywhere for anyone good

DubaLakers · Post #1 » by **DubaLakers** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:57 pm

only thing you are going to get for boozer is expiring contracts maybe a 2nd rounder or two.

boozer cant jump, he cant play d, hes always injured and he's a head case as far as thinking he deserves top dollar and is always looking to move never settled

this year he finally realized his market that the jazz could pay him the most cash cuz he's past his prime because of injuries he said i wannna go, not wait i wanna stay, that was hilarious to an outsider but im sure you guys were pissed

detroit turned down prince for boozer, no shi*!

utah mgmt is making bad deciions they still think boozer has a market for quality back.

also 10m a year for a 3 point shooting center? dont like it. no one is paying their players outside of superstars dic*, yet the jazz are passing out money like we aren;t in a recession.

the jazz need to blow up the team, top three pg, top 3 coach...boozer and milsap aren't priorities to me either is okur, the jazz need to start over to me....boozer and milsap are very good players but they are undersized and not defenders they can board, it's important cuz your center is running back and forth at the 3 point line

korver is a waste but will do until you can get a shooter outside of dwill in there. i like brewer but he's got no shot....

i like the jazz i want jsloan to win, but i just dont like the team dynamic outside of brewer, ak, d will, maynor (great talent)

give us maynor and well send you some shooters

stevebozell · Post #2 » by **stevebozell** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:59 pm

DubaLakers wrote:only thing you are going to get for boozer is expiring contracts maybe a 2nd rounder or two.

Boozers already an expiring.....dumbass

DubaLakers · Post #3 » by **DubaLakers** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:00 pm

i see tough guy, no one is going to give uth shi* for boozer was the point.

Post #4 » by **StocktonShorts** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:02 pm

DubaLakers wrote:i see tough guy, no one is going to give uth shi* for boozer was the point.

If someone with cap space wanted to trade the Jazz a paper bag full of shi* for Boozer, the Jazz would gladly accept it.

stevebozell · Post #5 » by **stevebozell** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:04 pm

DubaLakers wrote:i see tough guy, no one is going to give uth shi* for boozer was the point.

And youre an idiotic troll was my point.

DubaLakers · Post #6 » by **DubaLakers** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:11 pm

HappyProle wrote:
DubaLakers wrote:i see tough guy, no one is going to give uth shi* for boozer was the point.

If someone with cap space wanted to trade the Jazz a paper bag full of shi* for Boozer, the Jazz would gladly accept it.

True.

seejaydeja · Post #7 » by **seejaydeja** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:12 pm

Do we really need a new thread for this? Mods cant we get a Boozer trade thread going to stop all the unecesarry new posts?

erudite23 · Post #8 » by **erudite23** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:18 pm

IBTL

And this clown should recieve--at minimum--a warning for this crap. I got suspended for far less than this during the playoffs two years ago.

DubaLakers · Post #9 » by **DubaLakers** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:29 pm

so angry...it's simple im an nba fan, I'd like to see the jazz succeed, with a top three pg and a top 3 coach...what is mgmt doing with two scoring/rebounding pfs that can't play d and one is oft injured...then you have a center that now makes 10M plus to run around the three point line must be nice for okur...then you have outside of dwill only korver to bust shots, he's a stop-gap...emaynor was a great addition and i like ak47...it just seems that the gm is making bad decisions to me, do you guys not agree? i just don't see anything coming back for booze, they are trying to move boozer to match milsaps contract that ptown offered which would be a good start if it works.

rick333 · Post #10 » by **rick333** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:49 pm

Steve, I understand the hatred for Duba because he is a Laker fan, but at least he makes some solid points and gives credit where credit is due. Let's be honest in that KOC probably didn't see this scenario coming. I think everything will pan out, but it should be an interesting process. Unfortunately I think decisions made this year will have lingering affects for many years. Could be a scary thought for Jazz fans.

DaveMustaine · Post #11 » by **DaveMustaine** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:51 pm

Don't you have a rapist, a guy who attacks fans, a drug addict, a child molester, and a guy that used his 2 year old daughter's eye cancer to get out of a contract on your team, and you're talking to us about someone on our team not having character? Wow...Go back to your board and maybe watch a few commercials with your rapist star as a puppet to cheer you up, and leave us the hell alone.

seejaydeja · Post #12 » by **seejaydeja** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:18 am

DaveMustaine wrote:Don't you have a rapist, a guy who attacks fans, a drug addict, a child molester, and a guy that used his 2 year old daughter's eye cancer to get out of a contract on your team, and you're talking to us about someone on our team not having character? Wow...Go back to your board and maybe watch a few commercials with your rapist star as a puppet to cheer you up, and leave us the hell alone.

THIS is why everybody hates Jazz fans. Pot kettle...

Post #13 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:36 am

Who cares if Laker fans hate us.

Any who, the idea that this guy on the internet knows more about the value of an NBA player than an NBA GM is laughable. This shows where the Jazz value Boozer, and clearly Detroit considered the offer, but didn't value him to Prince's level. A step below Prince is about what I would have wanted for Boozer and that's what the Jazz will get. It may be in the form of trade exception, but in the convoluded world of the NBA CBA some things that aren't shiny to a fan is gold to a GM.

Post #14 » by **StocktonShorts** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:59 am

DaveMustaine wrote:Don't you have a rapist, a guy who attacks fans, a drug addict, a child molester, and a guy that used his 2 year old daughter's eye cancer to get out of a contract on your team, and you're talking to us about someone on our team not having character? Wow...Go back to your board and maybe watch a few commercials with your rapist star as a puppet to cheer you up, and leave us the hell alone.

I'm at a loss.

Mods?

schneiderjazz · Post #15 » by **schneiderjazz** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:16 am

DubaLakers wrote:only thing you are going to get for boozer is expiring contracts maybe a 2nd rounder or two.

boozer cant jump, he cant play d, hes always injured and he's a head case as far as thinking he deserves top dollar and is always looking to move never settled

It's amazing how a guy who can't jump, can't play d and is always injured can put up 20/10 for 2 straight seasons and be a 2 time all-star.

this year he finally realized his market that the jazz could pay him the most cash cuz he's past his prime because of injuries he said i wannna go, not wait i wanna stay, that was hilarious to an outsider but im sure you guys were pissed

Just a little. He kinda screwed us because of the luxury tax thing, but he's still a pretty good player.

detroit turned down prince for boozer, no shi*!

No ****. They just signed Villanueva to a big contract. Why on earth would they create a whole at SF to and a logjam at PF?

utah mgmt is making bad deciions they still think boozer has a market for quality back.

So what should they do? Trade him for nothing? That sounds like a much better idea.

also 10m a year for a 3 point shooting center? dont like it. no one is paying their players outside of superstars dic*, yet the jazz are passing out money like we aren;t in a recession.

I agree that they paid a little too much for Memo, but we couldn't risk having Memo and Boozer leaving next year. BTW, don't be surprised if Boozer leaves and Memo starts averaging something like 20 and 9.

the jazz need to blow up the team, top three pg, top 3 coach...boozer and milsap aren't priorities to me either is okur, the jazz need to start over to me....boozer and milsap are very good players but they are undersized and not defenders they can board, it's important cuz your center is running back and forth at the 3 point line

If we blow up the team, Deron might wanna leave. Bad, bad idea. We have the Knicks 1st next year and AK's 17 million expiring. We could add some valuable pieces without blowing up the team.

korver is a waste but will do until you can get a shooter outside of dwill in there. i like brewer but he's got no shot....
Korver is expiring, and Brewer, although not a great shooter, is a great player and has vastly improved since he got here.

i like the jazz i want jsloan to win, but i just dont like the team dynamic outside of brewer, ak, d will, maynor (great talent)

give us maynor and well send you some shooters
No, thanks. BTW, are you a Laker fan? Which shooter are you gonna send us? Vujacic? :lol:

Smills91 · Post #16 » by **Smills91** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:17 am

While the OP was DEFINITELY trolling IMO, he did bring up a good point. Boozer being dealt for substantial worth is unlikely. He's viewed as a rental by most teams. And the teams where he's not, would rather just wait a year to gain his services.

I really think Utah's best bet is to look to Sacramento and get 4-5 million dollars in cap space along with Kenny Thomas' expiring deal. Sure it sucks value-wise for the Jazz, but ultimately it makes matching Millsap a lot more viable financially speaking.

Kings deal:
Kenny Thomas 8.5 million
2010 unprotected 2nd round

Jazz deal:
Carlos Boozer 12.3
Kryrlo Fesenko(added financial savings now.)

That's the type of trade the Jazz could probably get. That'd save them 4.5 million dollars and gets rid of Boozer without taking on any long term $$$.

I know from a basketball standpoint that deal sucks. But from a financial standpoint, it's probably one of the best options out there(if the Kings are even willing to take on that salary).

SportsBoy · Post #17 » by **SportsBoy** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:24 am

Solution:

Cavs get Boozer.

Okla gets upgrade.

Utah dumps salary, gets young big.

Cavs send Boobie(4 Mil) to Okla for Atkins, livingston Unguaranteed contracts (4.4 Mil)

Cavs send Okla unguaranteed contract plus their own unguaranteed contracts

(Kinsey,jackson,williams) 2.1 Mil to Utah.

Cavs add JJ Hickson (1.4 Mil) and Wally in a S&T to balance the trade.

Utah NET:

6.5 - Unguaranteed contracts, Young big (JJ), Wally at 4mil for 1 year.

schneiderjazz · Post #18 » by **schneiderjazz** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:30 am

Smills91 wrote:While the OP was DEFINITELY trolling IMO, he did bring up a good point. Boozer being dealt for substantial worth is unlikely. He's viewed as a rental by most teams. And the teams where he's not, would rather just wait a year to gain his services.

I really think Utah's best bet is to look to Sacramento and get 4-5 million dollars in cap space along with Kenny Thomas' expiring deal. Sure it sucks value-wise for the Jazz, but ultimately it makes matching Millsap a lot more viable financially speaking.

Kings deal:
Kenny Thomas 8.5 million
2010 unprotected 2nd round

Jazz deal:
Carlos Boozer 12.3
Kryrlo Fesenko(added financial savings now.)

That's the type of trade the Jazz could probably get. That'd save them 4.5 million dollars and gets rid of Boozer without taking on any long term $$$.

I know from a basketball standpoint that deal sucks. But from a financial standpoint, it's probably one of the best options out there(if the Kings are even willing to take on that salary).

We know we are not gonna get anything great for Boozer. But it seems there are 5 or 6 teams interested in him. Whoever offers the Jazz more will get him. The deal you proposed seems to me like any of those 5 or 6 teams could also offer. We don't save that much and we don't get any talent back. I'd look for other offers.

holyboy2009 · Post #19 » by **holyboy2009** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:47 am

where do you think he's going? I think he'd like to go to Chicago, but I'm not so sure Chicago will be willing to offer Utah a great deal.

Post #20 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:50 am

Smills91 wrote:While the OP was DEFINITELY trolling IMO, he did bring up a good point. Boozer being dealt for substantial worth is unlikely. He's viewed as a rental by most teams. And the teams where he's not, would rather just wait a year to gain his services.

I really think Utah's best bet is to look to Sacramento and get 4-5 million dollars in cap space along with Kenny Thomas' expiring deal. Sure it sucks value-wise for the Jazz, but ultimately it makes matching Millsap a lot more viable financially speaking.

Kings deal:
Kenny Thomas 8.5 million
2010 unprotected 2nd round

Jazz deal:
Carlos Boozer 12.3
Kryrlo Fesenko(added financial savings now.)

That's the type of trade the Jazz could probably get. That'd save them 4.5 million dollars and gets rid of Boozer without taking on any long term $$$.

I know from a basketball standpoint that deal sucks. But from a financial standpoint, it's probably one of the best options out there(if the Kings are even willing to take on that salary).

How does adding a minimum contract player help? Still have to replace him on the roster.