Tom Moore 2.0

Don · Post #501 » by **Don** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:42 am

Right on about the stupid attempts at politicking. STOP Please. I don't come to this site for that. And that ridiculous signature..

before the season starts fans know which teams will be playing for the title. There are always some nice stories and suprise teams but one of the top 3 favorites usually win.

So true, but Denver almost changed that this year, and I was almost so happy to see LA nervous when it got close. I was also glad to see Orlando top Cleveland. I hate the favorite when it's not my team!

Don · Post #502 » by **Don** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:46 am

(copied from reclinerGM):

By the way, tk76, are you ReclinerGM?

STChaser · Post #503 » by **STChaser** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:16 am

tmoore wrote:
Westbrook36 wrote:Tom said that they probably won't even take him for one year though because they simply don't want him. That is a long way away from him being the supposed main offseason priority.

I think this will be a 36- to 44-win season, depending on how well Brand plays. They could be a lottery team in contention for the playoffs until the final week or lose in the first round for the third straight year.

You're probably right. However, anyone else recall the year we went to the finals? I remember many teams in the East were stockpiling talent that summer while we stayed idle. It was our team's chemistry and cohesiveness that propelled us more so than the personnel moves we made during the offseason. The one BIG move we did in fact make was acquiring Mutumbo though, but if I'm correct, that didn't happen during the offseason but happened prior to the trade deadline.

I for one am hoping (and expecting) us to score a lottery pick and get our future 5. But you really never know how your team is going to look until you actually see them play. Many teams out there are paper-tigers. For example, the Vince Carter and Shaq deals were played up big time but VC has looked dreadful and his knees seem to be gone and Shaq may finally be done.

STChaser

radrmd216 · Post #504 » by **radrmd216** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:30 am

Tom at this point what do you think the chances are that Brand is traded at or before the deadline.

The Sixers probably thought Miller and Brand would have worked out a lot better. Do you think Holiday falling to the Sixers makes Ed think playing the young guys now and competing in a few years is the best option. I would thnk one of the teams Brand could go to would be the Mavs since Cubin doesn't care about the tax and the Mavs might need one more good player to help them beat the likes of the Lakers and Spurs.

STChaser · Post #505 » by **STChaser** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:03 am

radrmd216 wrote:Tom at this point what do you think the chances are that Brand is traded at or before the deadline.

The Sixers probably thought Miller and Brand would have worked out a lot better. Do you think Holiday falling to the Sixers makes Ed think playing the young guys now and competing in a few years is the best option. I would thnk one of the teams Brand could go to would be the Mavs since Cubin doesn't care about the tax and the Mavs might need one more good player to help them beat the likes of the Lakers and Spurs.

Good question. I would suppose that Brand's role at this point is no longer essential seeing how it is that we're in full-blown rebuilding phase if Miller walks. Brand was the player who was going to put us over the edge but we've taken some steps backwards if we lose Miller and don't replace the depth we've lost.

STChaser

Post #506 » by **tk76** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:15 am

Don wrote:
(copied from reclinerGM):

By the way, tk76, are you ReclinerGM?

No, Dannie writes most of the hoops coverage there. I post comments there sometimes. As for the other active Sixer blogs, Brian runs Depressedfan and Jordan runs Libertyballers (and Jemagee writes along with 2 others.) Derek runs Phillyarena and lets me put up articles too. There are some good, but less active Sixer blogs such as Sixers4guidos (posted from Italy), Heard in the Cheap seats and Phinast has a new blog. I'm sure there are others.

At some point I'm going to post a new Sixers link list with some commentary on each of the sites. I post mostly here (when the in-fighting is not out of hand) and at Phillyarena and Depressed fan. It is good to get a cross section of opinions by going to different sites. IMO, the mods here and the bloggers are all really a knowledgeable group and an asset for Sixer fans.

I think some other posters bounce around these sights too, but don't always keep the same handle so its harder to keep track.

Don · Post #507 » by **Don** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:49 am

I was only asking because I used to occasionally post there- originally with a different handle- which was already taken here. I also find it nice to check out the other sites to keep track of what others are saying. I have taken to realgm the most at this point. If I'm not posting, I'm at least lurking!

BobbyJones · Post #508 » by **BobbyJones** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:52 am

radrmd216 wrote:Tom at this point what do you think the chances are that Brand is traded at or before the deadline.

Don't you think we could let the guy play more than, what was it, 18 games, before we ship him out? I know it is the prerogative of every fan to be impatient with a team's development, but give the guy at least another 18 games this season before you blow this team up.

STChaser · Post #509 » by **STChaser** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:03 am

I don't think the issue was whether or not Brand would return to form. It's more about where he fits considering the direction this franchise is headed.

radrmd216 · Post #510 » by **radrmd216** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:14 am

Yea STChaser its more like Brand doesn't seem to fit into the plans the Sixers are making now. I wasn't really happy with the brand signing since he was an older guy and the sixers were very young. I'm okay with keeping Brand but I think he could be a much better fit on a contending team. Brand won't be as good as he was when he was injury free and in his physical prime but he could still be a good second option of a championship team, just not this team beucase most of the roster is young and inexperienced.

Coach Clyde · Post #511 » by **Coach Clyde** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:03 am

It's strange to me that some people are getting upset about us not signing Miller when it's pretty clear that no one in the league wants to sign Miller.

Dedicated_76ers_fan · Post #512 » by **Dedicated_76ers_fan** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:24 am

I don't think we're as bad off as we first thought.

The Scrapple showed CRAP. But I thought Jrue Holiday was excellent. He got alot of deflections. Some blocks, and he is an excellent player out on the open floor.

If we get defense and running from our PG. I think we're in significant shape. If we get scoring from Lou Williams, that's going to be very good for this basketball team headed forward.

Indeed, the Jrue and Lou show has a very good shot at being successful. Because of the different intangibles that they bring. Lou may not be a playmaker, but he's a scorer. Jrue brings defense and playmaking to the table.

Iguodala is going to have to be the Glue to hold them together. Iggy's going to have to be the Point Forward of this basketball team. He's going to have to be a much better shooter with Jrue is on the floor. And he's going to have to make plays from time to time. Jrue's not that good of a playmaker in half-court.

Funny thing about it, is that we saw that Jrue has the ability to get inside any-time he wants to. But he has to improve on Finishing W/Contact. It's a problem that Iguodala had as well before this year.

If Jrue Holiday can improve on that aspect of his game. And most definately he'll draw defenses to him with his quickness and strength inside, he'll be able to find open team-mates for easy baskets.

I think we can be a much better team then people are expecting. But Iguodala's gonna have to keep this ship floating in the Right Direction.

Iguodala's the Captain. And he's taken the role with stride. I got hope, how bout u?

LongLiveHinkie · Post #513 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:20 am

Jasner is reporting that sources on the Knicks said they had no contact with Miller and Sixers sources say no Duhon for Miller swap has been discussed.

I think the offseason just might be over.

and that wouldn't bother me at all.

Dedicated_76ers_fan · Post #514 » by **Dedicated_76ers_fan** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:45 am

Westbrook: What do you think. I think if Iggy can help smooth the transition. That Jrue and Lou's intangibles allows that PG position to be quite steady.

bebopdeluxe · Post #515 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:59 am

Before we all get a chubby about Lou and Jrue's "intangibles", a reminder -

Lou Williams and Jrue Holiday - in their COMBINED college and NBA careers - have played a TOTAL of approximately 1000 minutes at the point guard position.

I am not saying that I would not support going with them. However, representing this as anything other than a pi$$ing away of another year of Elton Brand's contract is - even by my relatively rose-colored glasses - ridiculous hopefulness. And if Ed Stefanski is prepared to do this, then WHY THE F*CK did we not approach the last 35-40 games of last season differently in terms of players, minutes and the rotation after Elton Brand went down in February? If is was so freaking important to make the playoffs when Brand was out for the season, why is is NOT important to make the playoffs this season with him back in the lineup?

doctor him · Post #516 » by **doctor him** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:13 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:I don't think we're as bad off as we first thought.

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I think we can be a much better team then people are expecting. But Iguodala's gonna have to keep this ship floating in the Right Direction.

Iguodala's the Captain. And he's taken the role with stride. I got hope, how bout u?

I'm not as hopeful as you for at least this season, but I see your point.

In my head this season is about:

1 - Is Jrue the future at the point and how soon?
2 - Can Thad take the next step to be a CONSISTENT 20 PPG / #1 scoring option?
3 - Can Brand what we expected Brand to be and can he play a good deal of 5?
4 - Can Iguodala take the next step to be the leader on all levels of a good team?

1 - I'm very hopeful about Jrue. Probably irrationally so.
2 - I'm moderately hopeful about Thad though I feel myself coming back to earth about him.
3 - I'm fairly hopeful about Brand. I think last year was a fluke thing and I believe that the year off will ultimately put a little extra mileage on his legs.

4 - Iguodala's development is perhaps the most important and I'm just not sure there.

I've advocated dealing him for a young 2 (Fernandez), but I get why there isn't any enthusiasm to deal him. He is our best player and I don't think the description of "far and away" is too much of a stretch there.

(My impressions - Take with grain of salt): I think he's trying to lead and that's a good thing. I think that he believed he was further along as a player and a leader at the beginning of last season than he was. I think he got a wakeup call and is preparing more dilligently than last season.

And with all that...I'm just not sure he hasn't hit his ceiling and that we haven't seen the best from him.

tmoore · Post #517 » by **tmoore** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:27 pm

The biggest thing Iguodala can do to help the Sixers is improve his jump-shooting. He didn't do much basketball work for most of last summer because he was waiting on a new contract. Hopefully, he'll take a more aggressive approach in 2009. Would like to see him work with Mark Price on his shot, like Thaddeus Young, Lou Williams and others have done.

philly262 · Post #518 » by **philly262** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:46 pm

Iguodala is at the same Mark Price camp as LouWill, Smith and Thad.

Iguodala hasn't been updating as much as Thad, but he last update had him in "LOUWILVILLE" working at Mark Price's camp.

As of an hour ago, Thad is in the gym lifting, and working on ball handling drills.

Phillyboy · Post #519 » by **Phillyboy** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:48 pm

tmoore wrote:The biggest thing Iguodala can do to help the Sixers is improve his jump-shooting. He didn't do much basketball work for most of last summer because he was waiting on a new contract. Hopefully, he'll take a more aggressive approach in 2009. Would like to see him work with Mark Price on his shot, like Thaddeus Young, Lou Williams and others have done.

He's not doing this already? If so then that's great if not then I'd be very disappointed.

Captain of the team (and now he's getting paid) I would hope that he knows that this team is looking to him to be a SG, a guy who can consistantly knock down the spot up jumper particularly out of a low block doubleteam. Igoudala's a slasher and should be a 3 but we'll want to start Thad in this lineup and that only works long term if Igoudala can play the 2 well.

Like all here I hope he's been working on that jumper (shooting for hours a day) somewhere working with someone. What do you hear?

PrimeTime21 · Post #520 » by **PrimeTime21** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:49 pm

Yep, following Andre's twitter and he is working with Mark Price and the others.