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Re: Rockets and Bobcats 

Post#21 » by Walt Cronkite » Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:41 pm

haha, what's rgm's reputation elsewhere?
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Post#22 » by SWedd523 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:39 pm

Not necessarily the board itself, but I know guys like Slam, spectre, fat, and you are over here so I figured I had to check the place out :D
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Re: Rockets and Bobcats 

Post#23 » by dmutombo321 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:02 pm

fatlever wrote:how about a massive salary dump

Incoming Players
Brian Cook
6-9 PF from Illinois
3.0 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 6.9 minutes
Tracy McGrady
6-8 SG / SF from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS)
15.6 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 5.0 apg in 33.8 minutes

Outgoing Players
Vladimir Radmanovic
6-10 PF / SF from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
5.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.8 apg in 16.8 minutes
Nazr Mohammed
6-10 C from Kentucky
2.6 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.2 apg in 8.5 minutes
Emeka Okafor
6-10 PF / C from Connecticut
13.2 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 0.7 apg in 32.8 minutes


Ok. How about bringing Memphis into the mix and making it a three way..

Houston gets:
Okafor
Nazr
Radman

Memphis gets:
Carl Landry

Charlotte gets:
Tmac’s cadaver (and 22 million expiring contract)
Marc Gasol
James White


Why for Houston?
Yao’s career may be over and he’s out for all of next season at the very least. Houston is in desperate need of a center. They now have zero on their entire active roster.

With Yao gone, Mutombo retired and no big men, if Houston doesn’t make a trade, they may well miss the playoffs.

This deal nets them 2 centers: a 14, 11 and 2 guy in Okafor who can anchor down the middle along with a very competent backup in Nazr. Radman can back up Battier at the three and give them valuable minutes off the bench. They lose Yao’s offense but wont skip a beat in the rebounding, post defense department.

They take on a lot of salary for the next two years but the only player of any consequence they are giving up is Landry. This allows them to remain competitive in Yao’s absence.

Okafor / Nazr / Dorsey
Scola / hayes / Cook
Battier / Radman
Ariza / Budinger / Barry
Brooks / Lowery


Why for Charlotte
Tmac’s career is likely over. He’s had chronic back problems and missed significant time the past few seasons and a 4 months ago, we learned that he was having micro-fracture sx. We would be trading for Tmac the expiring contract, not Tmac the player.

Charlotte would rid itself of its two worst contractual obligations in Nazr and Radman and replace Okafor with a younger, cheaper, quality center in Gasol. James White is under contract for the next two years for practically nothing. Charlotte made a mistake not calling him up from the D-league when they had the chance last year. He has the potential to be a real D-league success story long term and could contribute off the bench immediately playing multiple positions.

From a business standpoint, Bob’s trying to sell and clearing all the bad contracts off the books would make the team more appealing to prospective buyers. From a basketball perspective, you’ve freed up a TON of money to facilitate a trade and/or sign a big time free agent next off season (joe Johnson, etc).

Gasol / Diop / Ajinca
Diaw / Ajinca (May?)
Wallace / UPS / White
Bell / Henderson / White
Felton / DJ / White


Why for Memphis?
The Zach Randolph Trade still hasn’t been officially completed and wont be finalized for another week. They can still walk away if they choose to do so. Landry had some monster games off the bench behind Scola in the playoffs last year and would give them a power forward who could start and give similar production for a fraction of Randolph’s absurdly expensive contract, saving them in excess of 15 million. He’s younger too

Gasol was a solid center for them but he cant play the 4. Memphis just invested the second overall pick on Thabeet to be the future of the franchise at the 5 spot. They have their Iranian project center sitting the bench also. Parlaying Gasol, who was likely to be a 20min/night bench guy behind Thabeet into a 35 min/per night starting caliber power forward makes sense. Everything Memphis hopes Darrell Arthur will eventually evolve into, Carl Landry already is.

Thabeet / Haddadi
Landry / Arthur
Gay / Sam Young
Mayo / Richardson
Conley / Jaric
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Re: Rockets and Bobcats 

Post#24 » by fatlever » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:48 pm

i would definitely do that trade d321
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Post#25 » by SWedd523 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:57 pm

I love three ways.


Oh wait....... ye-yeah good, uh.. good trade idea.... ;)
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Re: Rockets and Bobcats 

Post#26 » by fatlever » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:08 pm

one thing about that trade.... diaw would have to make more of an effort on the boards, not just boxing out for others, but getting in there and boarding like a madman.

i hope diaw comes in to training camp is great shape. he could be tremendous if he lost some weight, added some quickness and muscle.
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Re: Rockets and Bobcats 

Post#27 » by Walt Cronkite » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:21 pm

I'm terrified we'll see Fat Boris in October or September, whenever training camp starts. As for the trade, I like it as a salary dump.
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Post#28 » by Pointguard#1 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:38 pm

I wanted to say that Memphis would never give Marc away like that, but heck! They just gave away his brother.
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Re: Rockets and Bobcats 

Post#29 » by fatlever » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:49 pm

Walt Cronkite wrote:I'm terrified we'll see Fat Boris in October or September, whenever training camp starts. As for the trade, I like it as a salary dump.


i am afraid you are so right. we get fat diaw, out of shape wallace, okafor coming off a 2 month stint in africa, felton not under contract so not training with team, hendo getting NO PT in summer league, ajinca getting NO PT in france, bell spending 3 months in island paradise, vlad spending the summer wakeboarding and diop being diop. all that equals another slow start.
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Re: Rockets and Bobcats 

Post#30 » by Rich4114 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:09 am

I really don't wanna get rid of Okafor. When he does well, we win more than we lose. We all would've freaked out if we lost him to FA last year so why is everyone ready to ditch him now? It's only worth it if we're getting a better player in return and I think T-Mac the contract is the most valuable piece of that trade for us.

If you told me we could land Chris Bosh or Boozer by having the cap room then fine.
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Re: Rockets and Bobcats 

Post#31 » by nugentrk » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:24 am

What is the logic behind trading Okafor to upgrade our starting PF? It makes hell of a lot more sense to trade Diaw.
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