Jazz/NYK Rumor

Moderators: Inigo Montoya, FJS

HolyToledo
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,110
And1: 1
Joined: Feb 08, 2006

Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#1 » by HolyToledo » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:16 pm

NYK want Boozer so there is a rumor of a sign and trade of David Lee for Boozer. David Lee would sign for approxamitely 75% of Boozer's contract (like 9 million/year). Jazz can then let Millsap go and not ahve to take out a loan as no toxic portion of the contract would exist. Of course, this means David Lee would want to sign with the Jazz BUT he really has no takers rigth now.

Jazz Lineup:

PG Williams Maynor Kruger (or Price)
SG Brewer Korver
C Memo Kosta Fess Collins
PF Lee Ak-47 Kosta Collins
SF Miles Ak-47 Korver Harpring

Is this team better? I would say about the same. Better defensively but loses low post scoring. I think it wins 50-52 games because Lee hustles more than Boozer. The key to team would be the development of Miles/Brewer.

***Trade makes sense and saves Jazz money. Knicks stay competitive next year still leaving plenty of cap space in 2010 for Wade/Bosh etc. If they resigned David Lee they would not have the cap space for these stars in 2010. Jazz save money and find good replacement for Boozer without luxury tax complications. ONLY PROBLEM IS WILL BOOZER MAKE KNICKS THAT MUCH BETTER AFFECTING PICK IN 2010. Id say no because I really believe overall Lee > Loozer (worst defender in league).
Top 4 seed in the West!!! Guaranteed!!!
hoops4life
General Manager
Posts: 9,121
And1: 31
Joined: May 17, 2005

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#2 » by hoops4life » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:18 pm

Everybody is going to yell at you about not making NY better because of the pick.
User avatar
StocktonShorts
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 13,386
And1: 2,551
Joined: Jun 02, 2009
   

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#3 » by StocktonShorts » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:46 pm

What about an OKC/NYK/Utah three-way deal?

Boozer goes to NY, Lee is signed and traded to OKC, OKC gives Jazz 2010 #1 pick.

I think NY would need to give up something else so their incoming/outgoing salaries are in range, but in principle this deal seems to be more likely than straight up Boozer to NY or Boozer to OKC.

Jazz clear cap space, NY gets an expiring deal, OKC gets a PF they were rumored to be targeting, and the Jazz get another #1 pick in next year's draft (which should ease some of the concerns that Boozer would lessen the value of that NY pick).

What do you think?
Image
User avatar
awesomator
Freshman
Posts: 86
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 17, 2007

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#4 » by awesomator » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:18 pm

Kruger? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
jazzrock
Freshman
Posts: 91
And1: 0
Joined: May 18, 2007

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#5 » by jazzrock » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:20 pm

HolyToledo wrote:NYK want Boozer so there is a rumor of a sign and trade of David Lee for Boozer.


Well, the Jazz want Lebron so there is a rumor of an extension for Lebron and then he gets traded to Utah..........

Just because the New York Postabloid says the Knicks want Boozer doesnt mean there is a trade negotiation out there. Seriously Toledo, where do you come up with this stuff?????? The Jazz have absolutely nothing to gain by giving Boozer away to the Knicks and making them a possible playoff team for 2010. Why on earth would the Jazz even consider trade negotiations with the Knicks this year?

Oh, and David Lee will not make our team better.
hoops4life
General Manager
Posts: 9,121
And1: 31
Joined: May 17, 2005

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#6 » by hoops4life » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:32 pm

awesomator wrote:Kruger? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah


With the team wanting to stay away from the luxury tax it might not be that crazy of an idea.
HouseofBoozer
Junior
Posts: 318
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 20, 2007

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#7 » by HouseofBoozer » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:39 pm

jazzrock wrote:
HolyToledo wrote:NYK want Boozer so there is a rumor of a sign and trade of David Lee for Boozer.


Well, the Jazz want Lebron so there is a rumor of an extension for Lebron and then he gets traded to Utah..........

Just because the New York Postabloid says the Knicks want Boozer doesnt mean there is a trade negotiation out there. Seriously Toledo, where do you come up with this stuff?????? The Jazz have absolutely nothing to gain by giving Boozer away to the Knicks and making them a possible playoff team for 2010. Why on earth would the Jazz even consider trade negotiations with the Knicks this year?

Oh, and David Lee will not make our team better.


He sees these great ideas in his bowl of lucky charms every morning.
Boozer the Loozer.
JazzJuice
Freshman
Posts: 80
And1: 3
Joined: Jun 18, 2009

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#8 » by JazzJuice » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:45 pm

Happy, why wouldn't OKC just sign Lee to an offer sheet, thus not give up anything in return?
User avatar
The Sheik
General Manager
Posts: 8,466
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
Location: Irvine, Ca
         

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#9 » by The Sheik » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:47 pm

Everything this guy writes is a rumor.
User avatar
seejaydeja
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,450
And1: 53
Joined: Nov 03, 2005
Location: provo
         

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#10 » by seejaydeja » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:50 pm

Jazz won't do jack with NYK
Image
erudite23
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,857
And1: 660
Joined: Jun 14, 2004

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#11 » by erudite23 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:51 pm

Or in the turd soup lurking behind the sphincter window he pushes his head through every morning before getting out of bed.



Seriously, why would the Jazz do this? Millsap is just as good as David Lee, so in essence we're offering Boozer to a team who is bound to give us their unprotected #1 pick in order to avoid paying an accellerated signing bonus?

Honestly, Toledo, are you just D2nd or King Everything and you're just testing the limits of the posters here before we find you and tie you to a stop sign somewhere in the deep South with a WHITE POWER t-shirt over your head? At what point does this idiocy get checked by the moderators whose job it is to protect this space from things like this?
majortripps69
Senior
Posts: 678
And1: 2
Joined: Sep 15, 2006
       

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#12 » by majortripps69 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:02 pm

At least I'm not the only one who gets tired of this crap...
Image
HolyToledo
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,110
And1: 1
Joined: Feb 08, 2006

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#13 » by HolyToledo » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:02 pm

I am amazed what you guys think the Jazz can get for Boozer. No team going to give up alot. A David Lee or Maggette type player is the Jazz best case scenario in this financial fiasco.

Jazz keep a disgruntled Boozer then it will be a wasted season.

It is as simple as that.
Top 4 seed in the West!!! Guaranteed!!!
stevebozell
Starter
Posts: 2,285
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Location: Deloris Blazingame's office

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#14 » by stevebozell » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:06 pm

And Im amazed that you think Utah would make NYK get better on the eve of getting their lottery pick.
ColdBlue wrote:I think NJN should go to the cave and whip up a Sloan + NJN + anal lube = Championship sig.
majortripps69
Senior
Posts: 678
And1: 2
Joined: Sep 15, 2006
       

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#15 » by majortripps69 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:07 pm

HolyToledo wrote:I am amazed what you guys think the Jazz can get for Boozer. No team going to give up alot. A David Lee or Maggette type player is the Jazz best case scenario in this financial fiasco.

Jazz keep a disgruntled Boozer then it will be a wasted season.

It is as simple as that.


Disgruntled or not, if we keep him he will play his ass off because he has no choice. If he produces huge numbers, he will be getting the big contract he wants, if he doesn't, he's looking at Millsap money. You think that motivation enough? I do.
Image
majortripps69
Senior
Posts: 678
And1: 2
Joined: Sep 15, 2006
       

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#16 » by majortripps69 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:08 pm

stevebozell wrote:And Im amazed that you think Utah would make NYK get better on the eve of getting their lottery pick.


I do the Lee for Boozer deal in a heartbeat. I'm not investing my future in a pick that could possibly be in the 10-20 range, no way at all. Besides, who looks like a franchise player at this point coming out that makes you so wet for that pick?
Image
User avatar
StocktonShorts
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 13,386
And1: 2,551
Joined: Jun 02, 2009
   

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#17 » by StocktonShorts » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:17 pm

JazzJuice wrote:Happy, why wouldn't OKC just sign Lee to an offer sheet, thus not give up anything in return?


Good point. I guess doing the trade would take the uncertainty out of the RFA business... and maybe they get another piece from New York as part of the trade.
Image
HouseofBoozer
Junior
Posts: 318
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 20, 2007

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#18 » by HouseofBoozer » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:33 am

HolyToledo wrote:I am amazed what you guys think the Jazz can get for Boozer. No team going to give up alot. A David Lee or Maggette type player is the Jazz best case scenario in this financial fiasco.

Jazz keep a disgruntled Boozer then it will be a wasted season.

It is as simple as that.


I'm amazed you think your opinion matters.
Boozer the Loozer.
HouseofBoozer
Junior
Posts: 318
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 20, 2007

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#19 » by HouseofBoozer » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:35 am

majortripps69 wrote:
stevebozell wrote:And Im amazed that you think Utah would make NYK get better on the eve of getting their lottery pick.


I do the Lee for Boozer deal in a heartbeat. I'm not investing my future in a pick that could possibly be in the 10-20 range, no way at all. Besides, who looks like a franchise player at this point coming out that makes you so wet for that pick?


I don't think the point was ever to "invest" in the pick, but it's like the Blazers. They didn't want to help us out with a trade, by investing in their backcourt. If there is direct value to what you are doing, you don't diminish it by making your competitor better.
Boozer the Loozer.
Denizfeital
Starter
Posts: 2,104
And1: 211
Joined: Jul 08, 2004
Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil
Contact:
     

Re: Jazz/NYK Rumor 

Post#20 » by Denizfeital » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:52 am

Its been a while since I stopped reading Holytoledo's posts. They are always the same.

I enjoy reading the reply ones about his posts. They are always cool and funny.

But this time I read his post (after skipping it and reading the replies). Its so absurd. He tell us about a "rumor" that he's the only one knowing it. And at the end (after a long explanation), HE SAYS NO TO HIS OWN RUMOR !!!

Men, I dont know what to say about it :lol: :lol: :lol:

Return to Utah Jazz