Does Millsap Not Wanna Be Here?

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Re: Does Millsap Not Wanna Be Here? 

Post#21 » by DelaneyRudd » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:55 am

So who here thought it was great when Turkaglu backed out of his Portland deal?
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Re: Does Millsap Not Wanna Be Here? 

Post#22 » by commander_8 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:06 am

c'mon jazz, just sign millsap already!
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Post#23 » by dingclancy » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:17 am

rick333 wrote:Oh yeah I'm sure the uncle agent did his best negotiating with Portland to get that kind of deal. My ass. Portland was trying to put Utah in a tough spot. Let's be honest, we are in a much tougher situation than if we could have gotten Millsap for MLE type money and Portland knew that.

The uncle is a joke and fell into this situation.


So you are saying that Portland signed Millsap to spite the Jazz? If Portland management thinks he is worth the offer sheet then they will do what is best for the Blazers. Do not be mad at the Blazers for that. Utah miscalculated by offering MLE money and they are getting burned now.

The agent's comments are unprofessional and a tad too emotional to be taken seriously but he still did what is best for Millsap. Utah was content in giving MLE money and did the hardball dance. Once Millsap looked elsewhere, the Jazz are dancing to the bank looking for a loan.
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Re: Does Millsap Not Wanna Be Here? 

Post#24 » by whodey » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:28 pm

This whole situation could have been avoided if the Jazz had just offered Millsap a deal right off the bat. They could have offered a traditional contract at about 6 yrs 48-52 million. This contract would have probably started at about 7 million with NO signing bonus. But the Jazz thought he wouldnt get an offer higher than the mid-level and they ended up getting burned. I don't feel sorry for Jazz management one bit.
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Re: Does Millsap Not Wanna Be Here? 

Post#25 » by StocktonShorts » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:35 pm

I'm not criticizing the agent for getting the offer sheet from Portland.. I'm criticizing him for bad PR AFTER the offer sheet was signed and it looks likely Utah will match. At that point it does his client no good to air those statements. After signing the offer sheet he should have said

"The Jazz told us to go out and get the best deal we could and that's what we did."

and left it at that.
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Post#26 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:42 pm

HappyProle wrote:I'm not criticizing the agent for getting the offer sheet from Portland.. I'm criticizing him for bad PR AFTER the offer sheet was signed and it looks likely Utah will match. At that point it does his client no good to air those statements. After signing the offer sheet he should have said

"The Jazz told us to go out and get the best deal we could and that's what we did."

and left it at that.

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Post#27 » by DelaneyRudd » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:46 pm

I think he was saying that they were willing to sign a conventional deal with Utah, but them not offering that amount of money forced them to sign the deal designed by Portland to be very hard to match.
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Post#28 » by Joe Kleazy » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:58 pm

whodey wrote:This whole situation could have been avoided if the Jazz had just offered Millsap a deal right off the bat. They could have offered a traditional contract at about 6 yrs 48-52 million. This contract would have probably started at about 7 million with NO signing bonus. But the Jazz thought he wouldnt get an offer higher than the mid-level and they ended up getting burned. I don't feel sorry for Jazz management one bit.





BINGO!!!!
Sometimes when these things come up its about the principles, regardless of the way it sounds when it comes out. I'm sure that his uncle / agent could have worded things differnently but MAYBE millsap feels this way and was HURT that the team he busts his azz for didn't show him the love he felt he shows his team / city. He was gonna get paid regardless, just so happens Utah screwed themselves out of a possible discount and hurt feelings in the process while portland was there for the one night stand rebound sex. It was only a plus that paul fits a need for them.



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Post#29 » by kamazilla » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:29 pm

As KOC stated, the Jazz had entertained all scenarios, including those offers featuring the highest allowable signing bonus and upfront salary. In the long run, signing Millsap to those term will be a net positive as his trade value will continue to be very high throughout the length of his contract. The terms are also serving as impetus to make another personnel move in trading Boozer which they wanted to do anyway. Greg Miller's father took enough calculated risks in business, much bigger than this will be, that I really don't think the Jazz are sweating this as much as is being portrayed. And they knew damn well Millsap was going to receive an offer MUCH bigger than the mid-level exception.
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Re: Does Millsap Not Wanna Be Here? 

Post#30 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:41 pm

I know I would be much more comfortable if Larry was still around...he always made things seem like they were going to be ok. Miss him much I do.
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Post#31 » by Bradford » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:18 pm

This just proves Millsap is as money-hungry as Boozer...And, I'm sorry, but whatever Millsap's uncle says is EXACTLY what Millsap himself is thinking and saying...
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Post#32 » by Awoooga » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:02 pm

Money Hungry is the wrong way to describe it, I think you mean sane minded or rational. Anyone in his position would do the same thing. You need to realize that his is a business. Millsap has been underpaid for years and now is his chance to get paid so he can provide for his family. If I were in his position you bet I would do the same thing. And so would you.
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Post#33 » by kamazilla » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:23 pm

I don't see Millsap capable of doing what Boozer did to Cleveland. And do you really believe what an agent says actually has consistent, direct correlation with what a client is thinking? Their role is to go get their clients the contracts; players retain their services so that they DON'T have to mess with business end of things.
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Post#34 » by Bradford » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:29 pm

Awoooga wrote:Money Hungry is the wrong way to describe it, I think you mean sane minded or rational. Anyone in his position would do the same thing. You need to realize that his is a business. Millsap has been underpaid for years and now is his chance to get paid so he can provide for his family. If I were in his position you bet I would do the same thing. And so would you.
My point was people need to lay off Boozer for wanting to "get paid" when Millsap and everyone else in sports is the same way...

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