Diogu unlikely to resign with Kings

[Bac2Basics]

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... ith_kings/

[quote]
The Kings haven't had any conversations with free-agent forward Ike Diogu since they declined his qualifying offer of $3.9 million.
Diogu told the Sacramento Bee that "about 10 teams" have shown interest in him, including Atlanta, New Orleans, Boston, Dallas, Charlotte, Toronto, Denver and Washington.
Sacramento still has $6 million in cap space and are believed to be looking for a front court player.
"I haven't had any conversations with them (since the offer was declined)," agent Thaddeus Foucher said. "With the way they finished up, I thought we could've got something done really quick, but obviously they went in a different direction and that's their prerogative. (But) if you look at the team and what they need, I think he'd be a perfect fit."
Diogu appears disappointed that the Kings haven't shown any interest in bringing him back.
"I was disappointed (the Kings declined the offer), because I felt that I handled myself extremely well in a very tough situation last year," he said. "I felt I could've helped the team a lot earlier than I was given the chance to, and I felt like they knew what they were getting."
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[Nicky Nix Nook]

I wont shed any tears over it. I like Brockman and Greene at the backup PF, we need a Center now. Diogu is not that.

[KF10]

Don't let SacKingZZZ see this! He will blow a gasket!

[down_el_road]

Oh great. Im officaly starting the Oberto bandwagon yay.

[SacKingZZZ]

Don't let SacKingZZZ see this! He will blow a gasket!

No, don't need to. Just another example in a long list of recent disasters without even knowing by our "great" GM. This is pretty stupid to be honest. Hey lets go after Sean May (who I don't mind) who is coming off microfracture surgery. That guy that put up 30 and 10 and pretty much was the sole reason we jumped our win total to 17, nah, screw him, we don't need him, we have Andres Nocioni to play minutes at PF and C!

[SacKingZZZ]

Oh great. Im officaly starting the Oberto bandwagon yay.

Oh my god. If Geoff goes out there and picks up some useless vet, I may have to switch teams until he's fired. If Petrie isn't going to even think about bringing Diogu back he needs to just let Brockman get the PT. Watch him not sign him either and go out and spend 5 mil on Oberto. Hahaha.

[KF10]

A long list of recent disasters?

I don't know. The players he either waived, traded as filler, and not extended never materialized as solid players. Such as:

Loren Woods
Maurice Taylor
Justin Williams
Ronnie Price
Quincy Douby
Bobby Brown (Probably only half bad move from Petrie)
Sean Singletary
Anthony Johnson
Lorezen Wright
and now Ike Diogu

+others mediocre players

Knowing Petrie, he didn't show interest in a player like Ike probably reasons that we never will know.

Bobby Brown on the other hand, seemed like a solid player to us.

[SacKingZZZ]

A long list of recent disasters?

I don't know. The players he either waived, traded as filler, and not extended never materialized as solid players. Such as:

Loren Woods
Maurice Taylor
Justin Williams
Ronnie Price
Quincy Douby
Bobby Brown (Probably only half bad move from Petrie)
Sean Singletary
Anthony Johnson
Lorezen Wright
and now Ike Diogu

+others mediocre players

Knowing Petrie, he didn't show interest in a player like Ike probably reasons that we never will know.

Bobby Brown on the other hand, seemed like a solid player to us.

How about this:

The difference is, none of those players could even dream of putting up the production Diogu did, not only that but our frontline has never been thinner. By recent disasters I'm talking about trades, signings, reluctance to rebuild, etc. I'll give him a chance to do something, but signing Calvin Booth Jr. is not the answer, and is nothing more than a hindrance to the players on this team that can use the time, you know the kind of time players like that get on the WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. The part that bothers me is that he hasn't even talked to Diogu, which could mean one of two things: Diogu wants more money than the Kings want to give him, or....well....it would mess up Geoff's fetish for building a team of combo guards and small forwards? It's like they're really going to look at Sean May and not Ike Diogu!? Well, coming from the same guy that signed Mikki F'n Moore to the full MLE it doesn't shock me at all.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

SacKingZZZ and Diogu splitting is the saddest breakup since Romo and Jessica

Here's something to make it better SKZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz2cUX0CNA8

[KF10]

How about this:

The difference is, none of those players could even dream of putting up the production Diogu did, not only that but our frontline has never been thinner. By recent disasters I'm talking about trades, signings, reluctance to rebuild, etc. I'll give him a chance to do something, but signing Calvin Booth Jr. is not the answer, and is nothing more than a hindrance to the players on this team that can use the time, you know the kind of time players like that get on the WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. The part that bothers me is that he hasn't even talked to Diogu, which could mean one of two things: Diogu wants more money than the Kings want to give him, or....well....it would mess up Geoff's fetish for building a team of combo guards and small forwards? It's like they're really going to look at Sean May and not Ike Diogu!? Well, coming from the same guy that signed Mikki F'n Moore to the full MLE it doesn't shock me at all.

Wow, you really do believe that the last couple of games of Diogu's "excellence" would indicate something definitive and tangible. Dude, you gotta snap out of it! Diogu isn't that good! He posted modest stats against beaten up teams that rested their starters! COME ON WAKE UP! These specific instances happen ALL the time with players that never received playing time and eventually never materialized into something solid!

Besides, Sean May is not Calvin Booth Jr. That is inaccurate. And you know it.

Well to be fair, the Kings did talked with Diogu but that's when the Kings declined the QO from him. I don't know what were the Kings' motive, who knows. This is far from a franchise crippling move. It seems that you are acting that we are letting a perennial all star big out of here.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

How about this:

The difference is, none of those players could even dream of putting up the production Diogu did, not only that but our frontline has never been thinner. By recent disasters I'm talking about trades, signings, reluctance to rebuild, etc. I'll give him a chance to do something, but signing Calvin Booth Jr. is not the answer, and is nothing more than a hindrance to the players on this team that can use the time, you know the kind of time players like that get on the WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. The part that bothers me is that he hasn't even talked to Diogu, which could mean one of two things: Diogu wants more money than the Kings want to give him, or....well....it would mess up Geoff's fetish for building a team of combo guards and small forwards? It's like they're really going to look at Sean May and not Ike Diogu!? Well, coming from the same guy that signed Mikki F'n Moore to the full MLE it doesn't shock me at all.

Wow, you really do believe that the last couple of games of Diogu's "excellence" would indicate something definitive and tangible. Dude, you gotta snap out of it! Diogu isn't that good! He posted modest stats against beaten up teams that rested their starters! COME ON WAKE UP! These specific instances happen ALL the time with players that never received playing time and eventually never materialized into something solid!

Besides, Sean May is not Calvin Booth Jr. That is inaccurate. And you know it.

Well to be fair, the Kings did talked with Diogu but that's when the Kings declined the QO from him. I don't know what were the Kings' motive, who knows. This is far from a franchise crippling move. It seems that you are acting that we are letting a perennial all star big out of here.

If there needs to be a replacement mod for KIE, I nominate kingsfan10.

[cdt3]

Again where exactly is Diogu going to play? Noc 3/4, Greene 3/4/5, JT 4/5, Brockman 4/5, Hawes 4/5. Where is Diogu going to get minutes? I see 36 min each for JT/Hawes leaving 24 min for the other 4/5. Greene will get 12 min at 4 or 5. I like Diogu but I liked Shelden Williams there were just not enough minutes for him to justify being a $4mil backup PF. It's not like Diogu is Horry a clutch vet Ike is a 15/10 guy and we already have 2 of them. May could be solid if he only gets a cheap 1 year contract and can play solid interior def for 10-15 min a night. Maybe you pay big to your sixth man but your 10th. I just don't see any sense in it.

[KF10]

If there needs to be a replacement mod for KIE, I nominate kingsfan10.

And I promise everyone that I will lock every Ike Diogu/Boozer threads if I see one.

Seriously though, thanks for the compliment but I'm just doing my thang, you know? If I'm nominated, that's great but if not it is not a big deal. Regardless, I will share my insights/opinions in this board and others. We are just one big happy family.

[pillwenney]

No, don't need to. Just another example in a long list of recent disasters without even knowing by our "great" GM. This is pretty stupid to be honest. Hey lets go after Sean May (who I don't mind) who is coming off microfracture surgery. That guy that put up 30 and 10 and pretty much was the sole reason we jumped our win total to 17, nah, screw him, we don't need him, we have Andres Nocioni to play minutes at PF and C!

Or maybe we're instead looking to sign somebody who can actually play minutes at center. I don't know. I mean we already have Brockman, Greene, Noc and possibly Casspi able to play some minutes at PF. Maybe backup PF wasn't the team's biggest priority?

I wouldn't at all mind signing a backup center with real center size. Even if he's a (gasp!) veteran. Somebody like Jason Collins, Mihm, or Skinner. We just need somebody that has proven they can play the position in the league that can play some spot minutes when we need them.

When Diogu becomes the great player you seem to think he'll become, I'll gladly eat crow.

[down_el_road]

promise me you dont become as crazed as Obama.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

No, don't need to. Just another example in a long list of recent disasters without even knowing by our "great" GM. This is pretty stupid to be honest. Hey lets go after Sean May (who I don't mind) who is coming off microfracture surgery. That guy that put up 30 and 10 and pretty much was the sole reason we jumped our win total to 17, nah, screw him, we don't need him, we have Andres Nocioni to play minutes at PF and C!

Or maybe we're instead looking to sign somebody who can actually play minutes at center. I don't know. I mean we already have Brockman, Greene, Noc and possibly Casspi able to play some minutes at PF. Maybe backup PF wasn't the team's biggest priority?

I wouldn't at all mind signing a backup center with real center size. Even if he's a (gasp!) veteran. Somebody like Jason Collins, Mihm, or Skinner. We just need somebody that has proven they can play the position in the league that can play some spot minutes when we need them.

When Diogu becomes the great player you seem to think he'll become, I'll gladly eat crow.

Skinner would be good for me

[down_el_road]

I love Skinner or Oberto. Both bang and play somewhat of a decent defencive game.

[ICMTM]

If there needs to be a replacement mod for KIE, I nominate kingsfan10.

HaHaHaHaHaHaHa

Seriously mods nominate mods...trust me it's not what it is cracked up to be.

[SacKingZZZ]

Wow, you really do believe that the last couple of games of Diogu's "excellence" would indicate something definitive and tangible. Dude, you gotta snap out of it! Diogu isn't that good! He posted modest stats against beaten up teams that rested their starters! COME ON WAKE UP! These specific instances happen ALL the time with players that never received playing time and eventually never materialized into something solid!

Besides, Sean May is not Calvin Booth Jr. That is inaccurate. And you know it.

Well to be fair, the Kings did talked with Diogu but that's when the Kings declined the QO from him. I don't know what were the Kings' motive, who knows. This is far from a franchise crippling move. It seems that you are acting that we are letting a perennial all star big out of here.

No, but I believe he showed enough that our GM should at least consider bringing him back. Once and for all, THAT IS MY ISSUE. At this point it's not even about Diogu, it's about the idea he represents. Bringing in under the radar potential types.

And when did I say May was Calvin Booth Jr.!? When? Post it if you find it. When I said that I was talking about bringing in a veteran like Brian Skinner for example, or even better, Mikki Moore! A guy that will be here for 1 or 2 years, make absolutely no difference in our W/L record and be a fading memory and complete afterthought in due time.

I am a supporter of looking at a guy like May, if not Diogu, find a an UNTAPPED young big, don't go out and get some re-tread to be a spot filler. Shoot for the moon, if you miss oh well, but don't go get 2nd best because it's 2nd best.

[KF10]

No, but I believe he showed enough that our GM should at least consider bringing him back. Once and for all, THAT IS MY ISSUE. At this point it's not even about Diogu, it's about the idea he represents. Bringing in under the radar potential types.

He isn't under the radar anymore! Diogu isn't this highly potential big with awesome talent skill set. Well, he has several moves that can materialize into something productive. But it isn't like he is a future great big or something.

Like mitch said, if Diogu materializes into the player that you have claim, I would gladly eat crow and admit I was wrong.

And when did I say May was Calvin Booth Jr.!? When? Post it if you find it. When I said that I was talking about bringing in a veteran like Brian Skinner for example, or even better, Mikki Moore! A guy that will be here for 1 or 2 years, make absolutely no difference in our W/L record and be a fading memory and complete afterthought in due time.

Probably, I read it out of context but you said:

"signing Calvin Booth Jr. is not the answer"...."It's like they're really going to look at Sean May and not Ike Diogu!?"

So, I read it like you are opposed on a potential May signing; well at least before any Diogu news. If I misread your statement, I apologize.

I am a supporter of looking at a guy like May, if not Diogu, find a an UNTAPPED young big, don't go out and get some re-tread to be a spot filler. Shoot for the moon, if you miss oh well, but don't go get 2nd best, because it's 2nd best.

Ok, I do agree with this statement to some extent. You are right about to take a low-risk/high-reward kind of thing but take a look at our roster. It is full of youngsters. I think we need a bit more balance in terms of veterans. Maybe not scrub veterans but respectable veterans that are ok to take the vet min or something. Having a group of youngsters, not only causes an inbalance but there is no role model to look up to. And trust me that is one of the most underrated aspect of basketball in terms of young player development.