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Post#1 » by moofs » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:19 pm

http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/7/15/94 ... d-pendulum

Spectacular article.

We, as readers and watchers, need to be smarter consumers of our media. We need to get beyond the entertainment and thrill and ask some appropriately skeptical questions. If we want our opinions and analysis to be legit we need to refuse to surf unless the ocean is really up. We need to eschew snap judgments and the constant pedestal elevation-wrecking ball cycle that our popular culture encourages us to employ with our public figures. Jumping at shadows is only fun for so long. Following saints and spitting on sinners gets old after a while too. Real, verifiable, understandable human texture is far more interesting and, for my money anyway, entertaining in the long run.


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In the end "In KP we trust!" and "KP is an idiot!" both miss the mark by a long shot and always have. Kevin Pritchard is a very good GM. He knows basketball and he knows his staff. He's made, or contributed to, decisions which have brought this team from cellar-dweller status to fighting in the middle of the playoff pack. Kevin Pritchard is also going to make mistakes like any GM would. He's going to watch things happen beyond his control. Most of them he'll cope with. Some of them he won't be able to compensate for. That's sports for you. He's a person...a person who knows more about this sport than most of us could fathom, but a person nonetheless. No halo. No aura. No ability to make the impossible happen. But no matter what has happened recently the good of his tenure has far outweighed the bad. The balance of the evidence indicates that we're lucky to have this person at the helm.
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Post#2 » by DreamShook34 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 pm

I did a quick search for the words "Rockets, Yao, Morey, and Andersen".. I found nothing

but still a good article..
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Post#3 » by Guy986 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:30 pm

Logic doesn't apply to Dorey "Magician" Morey.

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Post#4 » by texasholdem » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:55 pm

I wonder why the former mediocre players (Ferry, O.Smith, Pritchard, Kupchack) and those who never played (Morey, Presti) usually make better GM's than the former superstars (Bird, Jordan, Thomas, Baylor)
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Post#5 » by moofs » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:00 pm

You think Ferry, O.Smith, and Kupchack are good GMs? Or did you just mean that they're better than the other 4 you listed. Otis Smith is still in that bad 4 group as far as I'm concerned.

I read the answer to your question somewhere once (if it sounds familiar, I've posted it here before).
The gist of it was that the problem with ex-players as GM is that while they tend to do ok with talent evaluation, they also typically have a poor or very rudimentary understanding of the finance and cap management aspects of being a GM. Once cap flexibility is killed, they don't tend to make good recovery moves.

I really don't get how Jordan's so bad, given how he's managed a huge set of business ventures for almost 25 years.
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Post#6 » by texasholdem » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:32 pm

Kupchack got P. Gasol for M. Gasol and Brown, got Ariza for Cook
Ferry got Mo Williams, D. West, Shaq
O Smith overpaid for Shard and has made some draft errors (Vazquez, Redick) but some draft gems (Lee, trading for Gortat) and good free agents (Pietrius)

maybe not the 3 best but in the top 10
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Post#7 » by moofs » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:37 am

Further inspection sounds good!

Kupchak
http://www.prosportstransactions.com/ba ... mit=Search

Ferry
http://www.prosportstransactions.com/ba ... ch&start=0

Smith
http://www.prosportstransactions.com/ba ... mit=Search

Kupchack got P. Gasol for M. Gasol and Brown - Getting the best of Chris Wallace is an accomplishment? :) That trade was also less one-sided than it initially seemed, as well (yes, it's a shock).
Kupchack got Ariza for Cook - Which was made by O. Smith and basically handed the Lakers the Finals.
Vladimir Radmanovic - 5-year, $31M
Brian Cook - 3-year, $10.5M contract extension
Luke Walton - 6-year, $30M contract
Derek Fisher - 3-year, $14M contract
Ron Artest - 5-year, $34M contract (fifth year is a player option)

Ferry got Mo Williams,
Ferry got D. West and Shaq

- The trade that turned into West and Ben Wallace->Shaq wasn't bad
July 2005 - Ilgauskas - 5 years 60m
Aug 2005 - Larry Hughes - 5 years 70m
Sept 2005 - Damon Jones - 4 years 16m
Dec 2007 - Anderson Varejao - 3 years 17m
July 2009 - Anderson Varejao - 6 year 50m

They're not idiots, but they're also not among the better GMs. There's a large middle-of-the-pack.
(granted, I've thought Kupchak is an idiot at times)

Smith overpaid for Shard and has made some draft errors (Vazquez, Redick) but some draft gems (Lee, trading for Gortat) and good free agents (Pietrius)


I'll admit here, I apparently sometimes think that he's been around longer than he has and get confused. He did still give out questionable contracts to Lewis and Gortat and commit the Ariza trade, one of which cost him the Finals (eh, that and perhaps the Nelson injury) and the other two being easily able to hamstring him within a few years.

(for time purposes, I was only checking signings for all three)
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Post#8 » by TMU » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:37 am

Mitch Kupchak is a good GM? Never. Combine him with Chris Wallace and that will give you 1 NBA GM with a brain.

Now, Otis Smith is cunning. I think he's one of the better GMs in the league. Sure he made a mistake of overpaying $Lewis$, but the stuff he pulled off against Cuban was Morey-esque.
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Post#9 » by QDog911 » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:13 pm

texasholdem wrote:I wonder why the former mediocre players (Ferry, O.Smith, Pritchard, Kupchack) and those who never played (Morey, Presti) usually make better GM's than the former superstars (Bird, Jordan, Thomas, Baylor)


This Happens in every Sport Mediocre and Non Players Make Great Coaches and Super Stars Make terrible coaches and GM's this is because Super Stars are special Players ( "Duh right lol") and the thing that makes them special is usually a God givin Talent mixed with an uncanny Drive and mental capacity Super stars don't have to be pushed in fact they push others they make coaches look like Genius's and make role players look like stars and the Legends Like Jordan, Bird , and Magic and Isaih thomas are as far from superstars as superstars are from regular role players

Now the problem that happens to Superstars and Legends when they become Coaches and GM's is they see a player with God Given ability and hold them to the same standard that they held them selves too, they can't understand why they have to be pushed or why they had a mental breakdown and why their confidence is soo fragil.

Role players and Mediocre player were not always the main attraction werent always in the spotlight and because of this they were able to study and understand the game more from the outside not just the inside.

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