TI: Big Z for Troy Murphy

cavsfan_osiris · Post #1 » by **cavsfan_osiris** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 8:15 pm

Positives:

Murph can ball. His range covers the whole court, dude can shoot lights out. He can rebound, hustles, is 6'11". Can play C at times if needed depending on matchup. Perfect compliment for Shaq/LeBron.

Negatives:

Is owed 12 million in 2010-2011. Maybe the Cavs could get a 2nd rounder for taking on the extra salary. Despite his effort he's not the greatest of defenders.

thoughts?

bcortell · Post #2 » by **bcortell** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 8:16 pm

I think Murphy is underrated, but no way do I take his contract.

cavsfan_osiris · Post #3 » by **cavsfan_osiris** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 8:18 pm

He only has 2 years left.

bcortell · Post #4 » by **bcortell** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 8:23 pm

Yes, for 23 mil. Most likely, I think we're keeping Z around til the deadline when we will explore the option of trading him in a salary dump/ filler for another team. I don't let him go yet.

Post #5 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 8:45 pm

Murphy is another of those guys that tends to light up the Cavs. I like him but his contract is insane. Don't see the Cavs taking it on at this point.

Benedict_Boozer · Post #6 » by **Benedict_Boozer** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 9:09 pm

I like Murphy. I don't think we would move Z for him though, I think Ferry would set his sights higher if he moved Z's contract.

I'd consider it though.

wallsfamily · Post #7 » by **wallsfamily** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:02 am

guys I think this is a great idea. Murphy @ 16 and 11 would keep us rebounding and his range would help us with spreading the floor. Remember we are now an above average to great passing team at every position. Shaq passes extremely well and Murphy would be the hustler who forces big guys away from the paint so Lebron could still drive. I played with him on 2K9 and we blasted everyone.

Post #8 » by **Miller4ever** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:34 am

Murphy can't play a lick of defense. And he's not really known for pure hustle, he just has a knack for finding boards and yanking them out of the hands of his teammates. He would add a 3-point shooter, though. The Pacers in no way, shape, or form want Big Z, though. We have Hibbert and Foster, Ilgauskas wouldn't do anything for us.

mg · Post #9 » by mg » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:06 pm

There has to be a cheaper PF option than Murphy who can hit a mid range jump shot? The Cavs just need a PF that can spread the floor. Murphy does have that skill but overall he's way overpaid.

mg · Post #10 » by mg » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:09 pm

Miller4ever wrote:Murphy can't play a lick of defense. And he's not really known for pure hustle, he just has a knack for finding boards and yanking them out of the hands of his teammates. He would add a 3-point shooter, though. The Pacers in no way, shape, or form want Big Z, though. We have Hibbert and Foster, Ilgauskas wouldn't do anything for us.

If the Cavs trade Ilgauskas it will be to a team that is looking for a straight salary dump possibly at the trade deadline. I think if the Cavs do trade Z they would prefer to send him to a team that will buy him out so he can be brought back to the Cavs to finish his career.

marcus15 · Post #11 » by **marcus15** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:11 pm

I dont think ths team cares about salary at this point. In fact, Id say we're the team most likely to take on big salaries out of every team in the league.

Id love Murphy. Ferry wouldnt use Z to get him, Z is only going to go through the "trade, buyout and re-sign with Cavs" route for a big time player.

Murphy isnt a big time player, but I think hes a fantastic fit, at least offensively and in terms of rebounding. Ive been hoping the Cavs could get a player like him ever since the Shaq deal, we just cant have ANdy starting next to Shaq.

marcus15 · Post #12 » by **marcus15** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:13 pm

I dont think ths team cares about salary at this point. In fact, Id say we're the team most likely to take on big salaries out of every team in the league.

Id love Murphy. Ferry wouldnt use Z to get him, Z is only going to go through the "trade, buyout and re-sign with Cavs" route for a big time player.

Murphy isnt a big time player, but I think hes a fantastic fit, at least offensively and in terms of rebounding. Ive been hoping the Cavs could get a player like him ever since the Shaq deal, we just cant have ANdy starting next to Shaq.

HomieOmey · Post #13 » by **HomieOmey** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:32 pm

I'd do this kind of deal at the deadline if this was the best I could get. After paying Varejao and Parker, I think Murphy's deal isn't as hard to swallow as some are suggesting. The Cavs struck out on free agent PF's this summer. I doubt there will be much more big man talent next summer.

marcus15 · Post #14 » by **marcus15** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:17 am

He'd look fantastic now that we might have added another defensive forward in Moon. Murphy's shooting and rebounding would seriously be a great compliment to Shaq. Just don't know how we'd get him. Would they dump his contract for a draft pick?

Gordon Bombay · Post #15 » by **Gordon Bombay** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:20 am

i think he'd be a great deadline pickup (presuming the pacers would buyout z and we get him back)

KFlight · Post #16 » by **KFlight** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:33 am

And indiana does this why? I also would think that by paying a guy 9 mil a season to play power forward you wouldn't go out and get a guy who makes even more to play the same position...

Post #17 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:07 pm

The Cavs aren't paying anyone 9 mil a year to play PF.

DOW34 · Post #18 » by **DOW34** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:08 pm

I like the idea of getting murphy but i still dont think we are going to trade Z i think he will be a Cavalier until he retires.