Diogu unlikely to resign with Kings

[SacKingZZZ]

Good thing you aren't the GM, hey wait a minute....Geoff is that you? And what the heck are you doing with Mikki Moore!?

Oh yeah, good GM move, lets take it back to the last game of the year and I don't know about you but I couldn't take my eyes off that big guy throwing it down, throwing his body around, shooting the lights out, we need to sign.... Jason Collins. Wrong big guy but he was at the game, too bad for us he was the one getting his ass handed to him rather than the other way around.

Guys like Mihm might come in handy for some teams, not ours. Rather take my chance on that 26 year old guy myself. Or another one along the same lines. Funny, I'd laugh all day long if signed Brian Skinner back, I mean, he's a player we could actually have used a few years ago that Petrie decided to dump for tax purposes. Now that he wouldn't make about 1 ioda of difference to our success or failure? LETS GO GET 'EM BOYS!!! WOOHOO!

I've got a better idea. Let's take it back to the rest of Ike's career. How about that? Back when, despite being a lotto pick, he couldn't earn time with 3 different teams.

I'm ultimately saying that I wouldn't mind getting a veteran with actual center size. Not every single player on a rebuilding team has to be a potential piece for the future. In fact it never works out that way. Sometimes it's nice to have somebody on the team with some experience. I'm not proposing to sign any of these guys to be big pieces for the future. Obviously not. That won't be the role of that guy next year. The role will be to come in when we need some extra size or when the team is in foul trouble. We don't need an Ike Diogu. Not to mention that he would, as you like to say "steal" minutes from guys like Brockman, Greene, and possibly Thompson and Casspi.

And let's not kid ourselves--Ike's only really impressive game last year was against Denver. The Minnesota game might as well have been preseason.

And if this is an issue of money, then it's a no-brainer. It's a small role on the team--get a cheap guy.

At least there's a chance he could do something with the minutes. Jason Collins? Only guy that makes Mikki Moore look like Wilt in the stat sheets.

[SacKingZZZ]

I've only skimmed the posts here so far...are we really getting into a heated debate over a 3rd string...MAYBE 2.5 string bench guy? Sure, Ike has potential. But there are also a hell of a lot of young, hungry big guys out there with at least as much or more potential. Ike would be nice to have back at the right price...however he's not worth crying over if he's not in the picture next year. When you have a team in major rebuilding, like the Kings are right now, the last thing you spend a lot of time worrying about deep bench players.

It's foolish to spend your time worrying about what kind of polish you use on your brass door knobs when your house just got leveled by a tornado.

Like who??? It's not like there is an endless list of young bigs out there right now, and if there are, I'd certainly put Ike near the top from what I've seen.

[KingInExile]

I've only skimmed the posts here so far...are we really getting into a heated debate over a 3rd string...MAYBE 2.5 string bench guy? Sure, Ike has potential. But there are also a hell of a lot of young, hungry big guys out there with at least as much or more potential. Ike would be nice to have back at the right price...however he's not worth crying over if he's not in the picture next year. When you have a team in major rebuilding, like the Kings are right now, the last thing you spend a lot of time worrying about deep bench players.

It's foolish to spend your time worrying about what kind of polish you use on your brass door knobs when your house just got leveled by a tornado.

Like who??? It's not like there is an endless list of young bigs out there right now, and if there are, I'd certainly put Ike near the top from what I've seen.

Should I post a list of names of the FA bigs currently playing on summer league teams, guys who are on D-League rosters, or both? Grab any guy on either of those lists and you stand a decent chance of getting a guy with enough potential and drive to be a journeyman who will come off the end of the bench. Or are you saying that everyone has it wrong about Ike at that he really is the next Karl Malone (just nobody's given him a chance to prove it yet)?

[SacKingZZZ]

Should I post a list of names of the FA bigs currently playing on summer league teams, guys who are on D-League rosters, or both? Grab any guy on either of those lists and you stand a decent chance of getting a guy with enough potential and drive to be a journeyman who will come off the end of the bench. Or are you saying that everyone has it wrong about Ike at that he really is the next Karl Malone (just nobody's given him a chance to prove it yet)?

How about pick two to that a) have even Ike's "minuscule" nba or basketball resume and b) you feel have more potential as an NBA talent and why. I've pretty much watched all the unsigned bigs in summer league and lets just say, the word "stud" certainly doesn't come to mind with any of them. If one of our guys, or any others, has a history of being drafted in the top ten, per minute has put up decent stats in the league, showed some pretty significant flashes of a game we supposedly are in very short supply of, and we don't consider bringing them in or even worth a look? Diogu, Malone, whoever, that's incompetence plain and simple.

When I say Ike is the next Karl Malone it'll be quite clear. People assume that since I think Ike Diogu is IMO a sign that our GM knows what he's doing if he were re-signed and that all of a sudden translates into me thinking he's a HOF player. It really is ridiculous because I've NEVER said such a thing. It's just a sign to me that our GM knows how to take the short road sometimes, lately he's seemingly made things a lot harder in just about every aspect of building a team that it's needed to be.

[wiltchamberlain]

SacKingZZZ, I can't tell whether or not you were being sarcastic or honest with your comment to what I said previously. Personally I do believe that this team will struggle mightily next season and will once again find itself in the top 4 of the lottery whether or not they sign May, or Ike. I am also pretty excited about the talent of next years draft.

[perezident]

Wow do we really have a guy sticking his nose out for IKE :O

Not to mention the guy is a veteran and has peaked years ago. LOL just cant find NOOO situation to get on the court?? meh...

[KingInExile]

Should I post a list of names of the FA bigs currently playing on summer league teams, guys who are on D-League rosters, or both? Grab any guy on either of those lists and you stand a decent chance of getting a guy with enough potential and drive to be a journeyman who will come off the end of the bench. Or are you saying that everyone has it wrong about Ike at that he really is the next Karl Malone (just nobody's given him a chance to prove it yet)?

How about pick two to that a) have even Ike's "minuscule" nba or basketball resume and b) you feel have more potential as an NBA talent and why. I've pretty much watched all the unsigned bigs in summer league and lets just say, the word "stud" certainly doesn't come to mind with any of them. If one of our guys, or any others, has a history of being drafted in the top ten, per minute has put up decent stats in the league, showed some pretty significant flashes of a game we supposedly are in very short supply of, and we don't consider bringing them in or even worth a look? Diogu, Malone, whoever, that's incompetence plain and simple.

I just have 2 words for you, then I'm done with this nonsense...Jerome James.

[pillwenney]

At least there's a chance he could do something with the minutes. Jason Collins? Only guy that makes Mikki Moore look like Wilt in the stat sheets.

Who cares? It's a spot that warrants MAYBE 15MPG, but probably not even that. Collins has size and experience--that's all I'm really looking for in our backup center right now.

I'm not even saying definitively that not re-signing Ike is the right move. My main point is that to draw any major conclusions about the decision with such a minor roster spot is ridiculous. It just doesn't really mean anything and ultimately won't make much of a difference at all.

[SacKingZZZ]

Who cares? It's a spot that warrants MAYBE 15MPG, but probably not even that. Collins has size and experience--that's all I'm really looking for in our backup center right now.

I'm not even saying definitively that not re-signing Ike is the right move. My main point is that to draw any major conclusions about the decision with such a minor roster spot is ridiculous. It just doesn't really mean anything and ultimately won't make much of a difference at all.

It's also a look that the King brass gets at another young player with upside, that always trumps useless vets regardless of playing time.