where does our frontcout rank in the east?

[Mr. Krabs]

Milwaukee agreed in terms with Ersan İlyasova (3 years for 7mil) a SF/PF who they had sent overseas. He is still only 22 years old and has a lot of experience (from both Turkish national team and Euroleague). He can be a solid addition as he will have a lot of PT. Hell I expect him to start eventually. I've watched a lot of him and I can say he looks really polished.

They have, obviously, Bogut at C and Mr. Johnson at PF. Considering Amir's foul problems Ersan won't be taken away any minutes. If things go well enough they can build a nice core there. For now they simply have a "potential only" frontcourt.

[King Bugs]

Either I'm in a particularly bad mood, or this board has become insanely optimistic. I see many frontcourts there that are way better than ours, and I only see Knicks frontcourt (if Lee is gone) as clearly behind ours.

I know what the hell? I'm looking at these lists of frontcourts in the East and I'm like god ours freaking suck compared to just about everyone else in the conference.

I have us at a 2 way tie with Milwaukee at 13 (which is probably generous, Bogut is way better than anything we're trotting out) and only above the Knicks who are at the bottom w/o Lee.

[Low-Ki]

Andrew Bogut will still be 24 yrs old when the season starts and is a true NBA calibre center. I'd easily trade our four bigs for him.

[colors]

Same here, I would dance all day if we had Bogut instead of anyone in our frontcourt. In fact, most of those teams have at least one player who would immediately start for us if we added him today. Lee, Dalembert, Brand,...etc. Hell, I'm even afraid Noah might start for us if we had him.

[papalawrence]

The Knicks is indeed worse, but much of that is because they are holding out for '10 FA's. Who on the Pistons has any history of providing even adequate week-side help?

If the team stands as is, other teams will figure out the Pistons glaring weaknesses and exploit them. If the backcourt and Tay are not filling it up, the Pistons will lose......Rip will begin to pout.....I can really see this being a very bad year.

I hope I am wrong. I hope Joe can light a fire under Wilcox.....I hope Max begins to show the flashes that got him his contract.......I hope Kwame finds a miracle lotion that makes his hands and wingspan grow.

I'm just pessimistic that it will happen.

Regardless, the Pistons have been to 11 Eastern Conf finals in the last 22 years (the Nuggets - a decent franchise - just got there for the 2nd time in their team history!). That's amazing. I think we've all been spoiled. A few down years is not out of the question - it just might happen. Again, I hope not. But our frontcourt REALLY sucks.

[bstein14]

I have us in the 12-13 spot in the east...

But I think our 1-2-3 rotation of Stuckey, Bynum, RIP and Prince could be in the 2-3 range so overall it looks like we're an average team in the east.

[Shooter1]

I think we rank better than the Shock.

[Liqourish]

I think we rank better than the Shock.

Hell no, Cheryl Ford is Karl Malones daughter through and through. The best rebounder the league has seen. Taj McWilliams is an outstanding two way player and mid range shooter. Kara Braxton is inconsistent, but damn, she'll give you 10 & 8 in 24 minutes while playing solid post defense.

I'd take the Shocks frontcourt over our frontcourt and it's not even close.

[Shooter1]

I think we rank better than the Shock.

Hell no, Cheryl Ford is Karl Malones daughter through and through. The best rebounder the league has seen. Taj McWilliams is an outstanding two way player and mid range shooter. Kara Braxton is inconsistent, but damn, she'll give you 10 & 8 in 24 minutes while playing solid post defense.

I'd take the Shocks frontcourt over our frontcourt and it's not even close.

You make a compelling argument. But we are in the top 3 in the WNBA then.

[Chriscross]

Wouldnt the frontcourt also include the small forward?

Just saying.

[joeleolebo]

Top 3?
1.boston (KG, Sheed, perkins)
2.orlando (dwight, gortat, bass, rashard)
3.cleveland (shaq, big z, varejoke)

ehhh...

I say the Pistons have the #1 front court hands down now. Check it:

C Vill > KG
Brown > Perkins
Wilcox > Sheed

C Vill > Dwight
Brown > Gortat
Wilcox > Lewis
Maxiell > Bass

C Vill > Big Z
Daye > Shaq
Maxiell > Varejao

See, that was easy! All you had to do was type it out...

I sincerely hope that was a joke.

No that wasn't. Face the REALITY.

Should we still talk about this?

[Collymore]

I miss those days. CV knocking down threes, Daye showing off his wizardry, Wilcox doing his thing and Kwame locking down the paint.