Utah - Chicago - Houton

finnegan · Post #1 » by **finnegan** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:58 pm

Jazz
Carlos Boozer
Ronnie Brewer

Bulls
Kurt Hinrich
Tyrus Thomas

Rockets
Shane Battier
Brent Barry
Joey Dorsey
James White
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Jazz
Shane Battier
Tyrus Thomas
Brent Barry
James White

Bulls
Carlos Boozer
Joey Dorsey

Rockets
Kurt Hinrich
Ronnie Brewer
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We overpay for Battier, but he is the perfect guy for Sloan. Jazz package Berry, Harpring, Dorsey to Memphis for cap relief and give 2010 1st rounder (not NY pick) to Memphis. I generally don't place as much value as some on late first rounders.

CAE15 · Post #2 » by **CAE15** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:40 pm

No, i like brewers potential more then i like battiers max. Brent barry and james white do nothing for us. So really its boozer and brewer for battier and thomas pass.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #3 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:46 pm

Although I like the idea of the trade and the players the Jazz would land I would hate to give up Brewer. I think the Jazz should hold onto him as long as they possibly can. Would the deal work if you swapped Brewer out for C.J?

Fido · Post #4 » by **Fido** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:11 pm

Just a minor technicality but the Jazz' 2010 1st round pick (top 17 protected) is already gone to Minnesota (from the Korver trade--it was traded by the 76ers). It would have to be a future pick that is traded.

David Ginola 14 · Post #5 » by **David Ginola 14** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:13 pm

Battier should be good...very good...
But I like Brewer...he's young...he's athletic...
We must keep him...

kamazilla · Post #6 » by **kamazilla** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:52 pm

I would far rather see Hinrich coming to the Jazz than Thomas, particularly if we are losing Brewer. Switch out CJ for Brewer, send Thomas to Houston and Hinrich to Utah and I love it. Equalize with draft picks or send Fes to Houston as well, they're desperate for bigs. If we could swing AK for McGrady at the same time, I would really dig it.

PG Williams/ Hinrich/ Price/ Maynor
SG Hinrich/ Brewer/ Price
SF Battier/ Brewer/ Harpring
PF Millsap/ Big Baby?/ Okur
C Okur/ Koufos/ Collins?

Jazz restore financial sanity by dealing McGrady's contract at the deadline for one good player on a decent contract plus expirings. Or play out the season with him once he's able to play, take a deep run into the playoffs, and let him expire. Then...

If the Jazz luck out and are able to add a franchise quality big with the NYK pick to this line up, they could be a top tier team for years with only minor tweaks each season.

SlimD235 · Post #7 » by **SlimD235** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:31 am

Bulls fan here. Since there is already a thread on this topic..

RUMOR: Scoop Jackson (ESPN 1000AM) presented this "Tweet"

Source: Gar is active n 3way trade wit Htown and Utah: TyThomas, KFesenko to Htown. CBoozer to Chi. SBattier, JJames, and CLaundry to Utah.

http://twitter.com/SportsUnplugged

Houston gets: Tyrus Thomas, Jerome James* and Kyrylo Fesenko
Chicago gets: Carlos Boozer
Utah gets: Shane Battier, Carl Landry

*salaries didn't match initially, so we believe it was a typo for James to go to Utah

Just wanted to share. YAY FOR TWITTER RUMORS!

klvanzu · Post #8 » by **klvanzu** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:33 am

^that deal makes a ton of sense for all three teams.

Chicago gets their guy. Utah saves $4 million, picks up a perfect fit in Battier, and gets a guy in Landry that can play a similar role to what Millsap played last year. Houston gets a young talent in Tyrus plus two expiring deals worth over $7 million for 2010, since they are clearly in rebuilding mode.

Chicity09 · Post #9 » by **Chicity09** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:44 am

Thats Perfect What You Said.

klvanzu wrote:^that deal makes a ton of sense for all three teams.

Chicago gets their guy. Utah saves $4 million, picks up a perfect fit in Battier, and gets a guy in Landry that can play a similar role to what Millsap played last year. Houston gets a young talent in Tyrus plus two expiring deals worth over $7 million for 2010, since they are clearly in rebuilding mode.

Ming Kong! · Post #10 » by **Ming Kong!** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:48 am

OMG if Utah could get Battier and Landry they would have a VERY good team, and be a pretty legit defensive team!

Okur/Koufos
Millsap/Landry
Battier/Kirilenko/Harpring
Brewer/Korver/Miles
Williams/Price/Maynor

Do we have anyone else under contract?

Paper Face · Post #11 » by **Paper Face** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:05 am

As much as I geek out over the notion of getting Hinrich, I would be ecstatic if we got Battier and Landry.

Guy986 · Post #12 » by **Guy986** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:08 am

GTFO Houston is not trading Landry and Battier for Stromile Swift and Jerome James.

boogydown · Post #13 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:09 am

Well I guess the thing is Utah fans, how can we get Houston on board? Someone need to give them a future 1st?

schneiderjazz · Post #14 » by **schneiderjazz** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:26 am

Really like the Battier/Landry deal, but I agree that Houston would want more.

Soul Patch · Post #15 » by **Soul Patch** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:03 am

I like that trade a lot.

Guy986 · Post #16 » by **Guy986** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:20 am

The more i think about the Boozer 3 way trade, the less sense it makes to me. If Carlos Boozer could be had for Battier and Landry why the hell is Chicago in this trade for? Carlos Boozer is not the ideal fit for Houston but he'll savage this season for us Rocket fan.

Houston trade:
Battier
Landry

Houston Receive:
Carlos Boozer

Utah Trade:
Carlos Boozer

Utah Receives:
Battier
Landry

Cut out the middle man i'll say.....

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #17 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:57 pm

schneiderjazz wrote:Really like the Battier/Landry deal, but I agree that Houston would want more.

Houston is saving 4 million in salary and clearing 10 million off their 2010 cap number.

Ralphb07 · Post #18 » by **Ralphb07** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:46 pm

boogydown wrote:Well I guess the thing is Utah fans, how can we get Houston on board? Someone need to give them a future 1st?

It's the Houston FO not the fans that makes trades so there's no reason to get them on board

If rumor is true they're talking about it and that means they have interest

Guy986 · Post #19 » by **Guy986** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:10 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:
boogydown wrote:Well I guess the thing is Utah fans, how can we get Houston on board? Someone need to give them a future 1st?

It's the Houston FO not the fans that makes trades so there's no reason to get them on board

If rumor is true they're talking about it and that means they have interest

I'm willing to eat crow, mouthful of it, if this trade goes down without more compensation coming to Houston's way. Our Gm isn't Steve Kerr.....

Pappyman · Post #20 » by **Pappyman** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:21 pm

SlimD235 wrote:Bulls fan here. Since there is already a thread on this topic..

RUMOR: Scoop Jackson (ESPN 1000AM) presented this "Tweet"

Source: Gar is active n 3way trade wit Htown and Utah: TyThomas, KFesenko to Htown. CBoozer to Chi. SBattier, JJames, and CLaundry to Utah.

http://twitter.com/SportsUnplugged

Houston gets: Tyrus Thomas, Jerome James* and Kyrylo Fesenko
Chicago gets: Carlos Boozer
Utah gets: Shane Battier, Carl Landry

*salaries didn't match initially, so we believe it was a typo for James to go to Utah

Just wanted to share. YAY FOR TWITTER RUMORS!

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Utah Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -1.8 ppg, -2.3 rpg, and +0.6 apg.

Incoming Players
Carl Landry
6-8 PF from Purdue
9.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 21.3 minutes
Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
7.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.3 apg in 33.9 minutes
Outgoing Players
Kyrylo Fesenko
6-11 C from SK Cherksassy
2.2 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.1 minutes
Carlos Boozer
6-8 PF from Duke
16.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 2.1 apg in 32.3 minutes

Chicago Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.0 ppg, +2.7 rpg, and +1.2 apg.

Incoming Players
Carlos Boozer
6-8 PF from Duke
16.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 2.1 apg in 32.3 minutes
Outgoing Players
Tyrus Thomas
6-8 PF from LSU
10.2 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 26.5 minutes
Jerome James
7-1 C from Florida A&M
3.0 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.0 apg in 4.9 minutes

Houston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -1.2 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and -1.8 apg.

Incoming Players
Kyrylo Fesenko
6-11 C from SK Cherksassy
2.2 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.1 minutes
Tyrus Thomas
6-8 PF from LSU
10.2 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 26.5 minutes
Jerome James
7-1 C from Florida A&M
3.0 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.0 apg in 4.9 minutes
Outgoing Players
Carl Landry
6-8 PF from Purdue
9.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 21.3 minutes
Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
7.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.3 apg in 33.9 minutes

Utah:
PG: Deron Williams, Ronnie Price, Eric Maynor
SG: C.J. Miles, Kyle Korver, Ronnie Price
SF: Ronnie Brewer, Shane Battier, Andrei Kirilenko
PF: Paul Millsap, Andrei Kirilenko, Goran Suton
C: Mehmet Okur, Carl Landry, Kosta Koufos

Chicago:
PG: Derrick Rose, Jannero Pargo, Lindsey Hunter
SG: John Salmons, Kirk Hinrich, DeMarcus Nelson
SF: Luol Deng, Taj Gibson, Linton Johnson
PF: Carlos Boozer, James Johnson
C: Joakim Noah, Brad Miller, Aaron Gray

Houston:
PG: Aaron Brooks, Kyle Lowry
SG: Trevor Ariza, Von Wafer, James White
SF: Tracy McGrady, Chuck Hayes, Brent Barry
PF: Tyrus Thomas, Chuck Hayes, Joey Dorsey
C: Luis Scola, Kyrylo Fesenko, Jerome James