"...how to parlay our bad fortune this year into our next re

tisbee · Post #1 » by **tisbee** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:22 pm

Something Moofs wrote a few days ago got me to thinking about the Rockets roster.
"...how to parlay our bad fortune this year into our next real roster" was the full quote-edit add.

To begin with,no Rocket other than Ariza has a guaranteed contract in 2011,so to say there is some flexibilty in the future is an understatement.
Here are the current Rockets w/their age on Jan 1,2010;

PGs Brooks(24),Lowry(23)
Wings(SG/SFs) Barry(38),Battier(31),McGrady(30)
White(27),Ariza(24),Taylor(23),Budinger(21)
Bigs(PF/Cs) Yao(29),Scola(29),Andersen(29),Cook(29)
Hayes(26),Landry(26),Dorsey(26)

We can see the outline of the future Rockets if Brooks continues to develope and if Budinger and Taylor develope into solid rotational players.
The PG,SG and SF all are stocked w/young,athletic,quick players who should form the core of the team for the next 5-6 yrs.
Brooks and Lowry make a very nice PG combo.
Ariza,Budinger and Taylor make up 3 of the 4 wing rotation spots. Ariza the complemetary wing,Budinger the 6th man and Taylor as the scorer. If Taylor can develope into a 20ppg scorer he will be the future SG,as his passing ability offers a much needed skillset,otherwise he's the instant offense off the bench guy.
Scola and Petersen will help w/the transition and prob one of them will stay as the crafty veteran fourth big.
Hayes(younger than I thought) will prob stay on the roster for the next 5-6 yrs,unless his legs go,as his modest contract,defined role and hard-working personality fit the Rockets as a 11,12th man on roster.
Landry and Dorsey are no longer quite so young and need to show more than being short,hi-energy guys that the Second Rd of any draft is full of. Chances of them being around in 2-3 yrs is very small.
If Yao's surgery and rehab are successful,he could easily play 25-30 minutes/game for the next 5 yrs or so. His game is based on his height and skills,not his running or jumping ability.

If I'm reasonably accurate the Rockets need to find 2 players over the next 2 yrs as the team transitions away from McGrady-Yao.(And to the great horror of so many,I think it 50/50 McGrady signs a 1 yr deal w/the Rockets if he has a successful comeback.Too many teams may not have the cap room they expected and I believe most of the top FAs will re-sign w/their own teams.) They need a PF who just eats rebounds and agile enough to block shots from his weakside help position. And they need an upper-echelon/elite SG who can get his own shots and make plays for his teammates. In the best of worlds Dorsey developes into the PF they need(personally,not very hopeful) and Taylor becomes a stud SG who can deliver 20-25/game and still create 10-12 good looks for his teammates.(If he just becomes a 18-20ppg scorer who makes a few plays,the Rockets become the Pistons,a team good enough to contend every yr.)

In general terms the Rockets in a couple of yrs like the late Showtime Lakers. A team that will run at every opportunity,in the half-court use motion and quick ball movement and in the 4Q of close games dump it into the big guy.

Guy986 · Post #2 » by **Guy986** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:07 pm

Heres a better alternative: Tank and get John Wall.

Look its simple, no need for wall of text.

Teckon · Post #3 » by **Teckon** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:12 am

Guy986 wrote:Heres a better alternative: Tank and get John Wall.

Look its simple, no need for wall of text.

Although your plan is simple, i see tisbee's plan has a higher chance of being realized though i do not agree with his plan fully. Rockets are a proud organization and the way Morey is working this offseason show the rockets are not tanking. They will always play their best effort as that's their identity. So tanking is near impossible.

Guy986 · Post #4 » by **Guy986** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:03 am

Teckon wrote:
Guy986 wrote:Heres a better alternative: Tank and get John Wall.

Look its simple, no need for wall of text.

Although your plan is simple, i see tisbee's plan has a higher chance of being realized though i do not agree with his plan fully. Rockets are a proud organization and the way Morey is working this offseason show the rockets are not tanking. They will always play their best effort as that's their identity. So tanking is near impossible.

Yea getting a rebounding and shot blocking machine at PF and an elite SG is easier than tanking. /sarcasm

moofs · Post #5 » by **moofs** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:39 pm

Do you really want to hear "put down your next year's season tickets so you can see John Wall and the rest of the Rockets take on the top talent around the league". His name, while stout, doesn't flow very well, which generally means he won't be a superstar. (it's weird how that works)

Thanks for elaborating, tisbee. Going to have to think about that.

Guy986 · Post #6 » by **Guy986** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:50 pm

moofs wrote:Do you really want to hear "put down your next year's season tickets so you can see John Wall and the rest of the Rockets take on the top talent around the league". His name, while stout, doesn't flow very well, which generally means he won't be a superstar. (it's weird how that works)

Thanks for elaborating, tisbee. Going to have to think about that.

Yes yes i do. Give me a player with star potential over one painful season any time.

tisbee · Post #7 » by **tisbee** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:43 am

Prob should be in own thread and no one will read it here,but Minn just traded away Telfaire and 2 others to Clips. Flynn looked really good in Summer League(yes it's SL). Put's Minn roster at 12 w/Rubio up in air. Minn GM in Spain to address buyout.
Anybody want to bet there is a trade for Rubio brewing w/a back-up PG and PF/C as part of package?

Guy986 · Post #8 » by **Guy986** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:00 am

tisbee wrote:Prob should be in own thread and no one will read it here,but Minn just traded away Telfaire and 2 others to Clips. Flynn looked really good in Summer League(yes it's SL). Put's Minn roster at 12 w/Rubio up in air. Minn GM in Spain to address buyout.
Anybody want to bet there is a trade for Rubio brewing w/a back-up PG and PF/C as part of package?

Aaron Brooks + Shane Battier + Yao Ming's first born for Ricky Rubio

Post #9 » by **Mr. E** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:07 am

Guy986 wrote:Aaron Brooks + Shane Battier + Yao Ming's first born for Ricky Rubio

You know, that's a good point - we should really start thinking of Yao and Ye Li's offspring as assets. talk about genetic engineering at it's finest!

(someone will take offense to this, I'm sure.....but will they be offended if we get Kevin Durant and a future first for Kid's 2 & 3????)

I'm going to hell for this post.

Luffy · Post #10 » by **Luffy** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:45 am

Tank for John Wall, Derrick Favors, or Ed Davis. Simple as that. McGrady and Yao is out for more than half the season. You guys are basically the 2008-2009 Washington Wizards. A competitive playoff team that's been destroyed by injuries. Except in your case, a Top 5 pick in the 2010 NBA Draft will get you a solid starter.

moofs · Post #11 » by **moofs** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:08 pm

tisbee wrote:Prob should be in own thread and no one will read it here,but Minn just traded away Telfaire and 2 others to Clips. Flynn looked really good in Summer League(yes it's SL). Put's Minn roster at 12 w/Rubio up in air. Minn GM in Spain to address buyout.
Anybody want to bet there is a trade for Rubio brewing w/a back-up PG and PF/C as part of package?

Where'd you find this out? I want details! :-D