Deal with Minnesota?

[lojowo]

Is this our weekly Gomes thread? Been there, done that. No thanks.

Beats the bring back Walker thread, but we have not had a Bring back PJ Brown thread in awhile.

How about Bring back Tony Battie thread, he could actually back up the 4 and 5 ( Behind Perkins, Garnett and Wallace. )?

[Cross]

Your proposed second squad lacks a proven, quality jump shooter. Granted they probably wouldn't play the whole team at once, but there isn't going to be much in the way of floor spacing, making it difficult for all the mid-range/slasher type players to get shots.

Well like you said yourself, they will not play together at the same time so it's not much of an issue.

That's assuming everyone is healthy and able to play. This tends not to be the case a lot of the time, so it's probably an idea that should be put on the table for discussion.

[SonicYouth34]

I'd love Gomes back. I still have my jersey.

[TheOGJabroni]

Any effects on this trade now that Bassy, Cookie, and Madsen are out of the picture?

[rambo_ortega]

if we wanna trade for gomes, it should be TA and giddens for gomes and bobby brown. i dont like us trading house. he's much more valuable with the addition of daniels and if we get a legit tall sf.

perk/kg/pierce/allen/rondo
sheed/baby/gomes/daniels/house

[Maple Green]

Hey Minnesota are thin in their F position because they trade Madsen , Smith and other player which i forgot the name to Clippers for Quintin Richardson.

[celticpride17]

the other player was former celtic sebastion telfair a guard.

[TheOGJabroni]

Hey Minnesota are thin in their F position because they trade Madsen , Smith and other player which i forgot the name to Clippers for Quintin Richardson.

They really are far from thin at PF still. Al is a FC combo, Kevin Love is a PF, Gomes is a F combo, Songaila, Pecherov, and Cardinal are all PF's as well. They seem to need some 2 guards for sure though.

[shrink]

This is the Gomes deal we've been discussing with a BOS fan on our board:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=927831&start=0

what do you think does adding a second rounder and taking back bobby brown get the deal done for some of yall? that would make it a tony allen, bill walker, jr giddens, and 2cd rounder for ryan gomes and bobby brown swap; am i getting closer or farther?

Keep the second rounder, and throw in a Scal-for-the better-Song, and I'm down.

You can do a Songalia swap now if he's done as a seperate trade, which works independently under the 125% + $100,000 cap matching rules. For instance:

Songalia for Scalabrine + Walker + $380,000 mil TPE

and

Gomes for Tony Allen + Giddens + $500,000 TPE

To get the roster space, MIN buys out Bobby Brown (unless Rubio's coming over, where we'll get rid of Telfair and keep Brown for a cheap third stringer). If you want Brown, he can be added to the deal. $880,000 in TPEs = $1.76 mil savings since you're over the lux, to help pay for Songalia next year.

BOS keeps the second rounder.

BOS also gains two roster spots, and become more attractive to vet free agents taking the minimum to get a ring.

Gomes and Songalia solidify BOS' chances for a ring. MIN gets out of Songalia's contract (and saves on Gomes) for 2010 cap space, and the Wolves actually have the minutes to give to the young players. If they fail, they aren't costing MIN a championship or anything.

BOS depth Chart
-------------------------
Rondo, Pruitt
Ray Allen, Eddie House
Pierce, Gomes
Garnett, Songalia
Rasheed, Perkins

Looks pretty solid. Sprinkle with a couple vet min guys looking for a ring, and you're set.

With the recent Q-Rich trade, MIN now has two roster spots. Gomes is our starting SF and we love him too, but MIN isn't playing for anything in 2009-10. Perhaps the best part of Gomes for you is the bail-out clause. If you pick up injuries to your stars and aren't a contender, Gomes contract is only guaranteed for $1 mil the next two years.

MIN posters are split on such a deal -- we love Gomes too, but it seems to me that since MIN and BOS have such different goals, we should be able to help each other.

[TheOGJabroni]

This is the Gomes deal we've been discussing with a BOS fan on our board:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=927831&start=0

what do you think does adding a second rounder and taking back bobby brown get the deal done for some of yall? that would make it a tony allen, bill walker, jr giddens, and 2cd rounder for ryan gomes and bobby brown swap; am i getting closer or farther?

Keep the second rounder, and throw in a Scal-for-the better-Song, and I'm down.

You can do a Songalia swap now if he's done as a seperate trade, which works independently under the 125% + $100,000 cap matching rules. For instance:

Songalia for Scalabrine + Walker + $380,000 mil TPE

and

Gomes for Tony Allen + Giddens + $500,000 TPE

To get the roster space, MIN buys out Bobby Brown (unless Rubio's coming over, where we'll get rid of Telfair and keep Brown for a cheap third stringer). If you want Brown, he can be added to the deal. $880,000 in TPEs = $1.76 mil savings since you're over the lux, to help pay for Songalia next year.

BOS keeps the second rounder.

BOS also gains two roster spots, and become more attractive to vet free agents taking the minimum to get a ring.

Gomes and Songalia solidify BOS' chances for a ring. MIN gets out of Songalia's contract (and saves on Gomes) for 2010 cap space, and the Wolves actually have the minutes to give to the young players. If they fail, they aren't costing MIN a championship or anything.

BOS depth Chart
-------------------------
Rondo, Pruitt
Ray Allen, Eddie House
Pierce, Gomes
Garnett, Songalia
Rasheed, Perkins

Looks pretty solid. Sprinkle with a couple vet min guys looking for a ring, and you're set.

With the recent Q-Rich trade, MIN now has two roster spots. Gomes is our starting SF and we love him too, but MIN isn't playing for anything in 2009-10. Perhaps the best part of Gomes for you is the bail-out clause. If you pick up injuries to your stars and aren't a contender, Gomes contract is only guaranteed for $1 mil the next two years.

MIN posters are split on such a deal -- we love Gomes too, but it seems to me that since MIN and BOS have such different goals, we should be able to help each other.

I don't want to speak for everyone but if TA isn't used in a S&T for Marquis Daniels, I'm pretty sure most Celtics fans would gladly accept the Gomes for TA and JR Giddens offer.

[shrink]

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Songalia for Scalabrine + Walker + $380,000 mil TPE

and

Gomes for Tony Allen + Giddens + $500,000 TPE

I don't want to speak for everyone but if TA isn't used in a S&T for Marquis Daniels, I'm pretty sure most Celtics fans would gladly accept the Gomes for TA and JR Giddens offer.

You'd have to do both halves of the simultaneous deal.

[AlCelticFan]

Why does everyone want to get rid of Eddy House? He was one of our most productive bench players last season. I really don't think Ainge wants to trade him. I'd be really surprised if he did.

[sully00]

The trade restriction on Eddie House was because he was a non bird veteran FA on a one year deal, in that situation he cannot be dealt without his permission. Since he picked up his option he is now on a 2 year deal and no longer subject to that restriction.

I love Ryan Gomes and all but he is starting SF in MINN why would they want to deal him for cap fodder? He is a young player on young team with a pretty friendly contract I don't see why they would look to move him. But sure sounds great TA and Giddens for Gomes all over that.

[Jammer]

The trade restriction on Eddie House was because he was a non bird veteran FA on a one year deal, in that situation he cannot be dealt without his permission. Since he picked up his option he is now on a 2 year deal and no longer subject to that restriction.

Actually, sully, House would have been Early Bird This Summer (2 years with team).

He will be Full Bird Next Summer (3 years with team).

I thought the same restriction on trading Eddie (needing his approval to lose Bird rights)
applies when Full Bird Rights are at risk of loss, just like Early Bird.

Now, Eddie will not get an $11 Million contract next year like Ben Gordon,
but to give up the right to that kind of raise is something he doesn't have to do.

What am I missing here?