Millsap never visited PDX nor talked to Pritchard or Nate

[StocktonShorts]

1) I don't really believe Millsap on this one; just like I don't believe him when he says he wants Boozer to come back. Maybe he's splitting hairs and what he means is he never talked about this deal with Nate. Who knows. FWIW - I don't really hold these kinds of "PR white lies" against people. If I did I'm not sure there would be many sports figures left to like.

2) Even if Portland never met with Millsap, I don't see how that makes Portland's interest any less genuine. I think they truly wanted Millsap; if they'd just wanted to dick with someone's salary they would've made a "toxic" offer to Odom.

3) After the Hedo incident Portland may have rethought its approach to wining and dining RFAs.

[erudite23]

what's funny is you may have done a better job defining yourself then anybody 'over there'.

Just how is it that one poster = "they"?...and from that you make a broad insulting generalization of "half the fan base"?

So...one statement where ONE Jazz fan (remember your defense is that it was just one guy...which isn't true, it was two) says that your fanbase is immature or messed up in the head is a better job of defining himself or his fanbase than this:

I have a post in my sig playfully ribbing a fanbase's (well know, I might add) propensity for vastly overvaluing their players and that makes it cool to stereotype and villify me on the basis of religion, just because of the team I root for?

Nobody here thinks that your sig line is meant as playfully ribbing. Nobody here is that stupid, and you are a fool for trying to pawn it off that way. You go on trying to justify your sig line as emperical truth, just as Warren Jeffs and many of his followers in SLC claim they have the right to marry as many underage girls as they want. You are a shallow person and your sig line is proof. I do not "playfully" put Warren Jeffs crap in my sig line. But maybe I should as it is just being "playfull," right kitten?

You guys are too sensitive. I can surely see why you wouldn't take my sig too kindly, but if you like basketball and discussing the various aspects of the league, that should be the prevalent thing.

Nice backtrack and then deflection. I am sure that thinking worked for Hitler as he strode into the ghettos with his Nazi flag flapping in the wind telling the Jews it is just being "playfull."

Where were you to call down your boy when he started comparing my signature to a cult leader who is a pedophile, rapist and polygamist or to possibly the biggest tyrant, murderer and genocidist who has ever lived?

Its a disgrace that this guy hasn't been waived already. What more do you have to do?



And what don't you understand about that link. Paul Millsap said straight up that he never talked to Pritchard or Nate McMillan, and basically said, though not in so many words, that there was an understanding between them that Utah would definitely match, and they did. Now why would Portland offer a contract that they KNOW for sure isn't going to be matched? Why? It doesn't make sense, except when you look and see that they have a vested interest in Paul Millsap a) getting his contract situation resolved quickly and b) getting paid more than the contract the Jazz were in line to give him.

This isn't really even debatable. We should be going back and forth on the merits of the move itself, not arguing over whether or not it happened. At this point, the evidence is nearly insurmountable.

[horaceworthy]

Where were you to call down your boy when he started comparing my signature to a cult leader who is a pedophile, rapist and polygamist or to possibly the biggest tyrant, murderer and gynocidist who has ever lived?

I'm not usually one to harp on spelling, but that's one of the funniest misspellings that I've ever seen on a board.

Not to downplay the ridiculousness of your being compared to Hitler (which I also found funny, but that's just because I find the insane rantings of a madman funny).

So thank you, erudite23, you've almost been responsible for the destruction of my keyboard in a spit-take twice today.

[Wizenheimer]

what's funny is you may have done a better job defining yourself then anybody 'over there'.

Just how is it that one poster = "they"?...and from that you make a broad insulting generalization of "half the fan base"?

So...one statement where ONE Jazz fan (remember your defense is that it was just one guy...which isn't true, it was two) says that your fanbase is immature or messed up in the head is a better job of defining himself or his fanbase than this:

I was objecting to a common practice at RealGM where some people assume a single poster represents the sentiments of most of that team's fans

And I just called out a single individual in my post above for that practice.

Where were you to call down your boy when he started comparing my signature to a cult leader who is a pedophile, rapist and polygamist or to possibly the biggest tyrant, murderer and gynocidist who has ever lived?

if you have a problem with it take it up with a moderator. I don't have that power around here and nobody here is 'my boy'


And what don't you understand about that link. Paul Millsap said straight up that he never talked to Pritchard or Nate McMillan, [/quote]

according to a reporter who didn't quote Millsap

his agent said something completely different. You choose to to believe Millsap...who by the way, was saying how offended he was by Utah's "disprespect" last week, and is now saying how happy he is. Consistency of message is not something too common in Free Agent season, and Millsap is no exception.

and basically said, though not in so many words, that there was an understanding between them that Utah would definitely match, and they did.

LOL...yeah he said what you think he said by actually not saying it...you're just a master of Millsap translation

Maybe the reporter used the same standard when he translated what Millsap said...or didn't say in so many words... about McMillan

Now why would Portland offer a contract that they KNOW for sure isn't going to be matched?

I think you have a typo in there

Why? It doesn't make sense, except when you look and see that they have a vested interest in Paul Millsap a) getting his contract situation resolved quickly and b) getting paid more than the contract the Jazz were in line to give him.

This isn't really even debatable. We should be going back and forth on the merits of the move itself, not arguing over whether or not it happened. At this point, the evidence is nearly insurmountable.

I'm not going to debate this with you any more. there's no point and you only pay attention to your message

Here's what happened: The Blazers determined that Millsap was the best FA available and that he fit a need they had with their roster. They decided to roll the dice by offering a contract that was unusually frontloaded. They knew there was a good chance that Utah would match but figured the chances the Jazz wouldn't match were high enough to make taking a shot at Millsap was worthwhile. The loss of a week of cap-space at this point had a negligible impact on their summer

They also split the difference between "toxic" and prudent. They could have made the offer even bigger if they wanted, but were also paying heed to trying to keep Millsap's contract close to being fair for the value.

I'm sure there was calculation about the impact on Utah, but for the most part this was about portland taking a shot at landing a good player

[erudite23]

Where were you to call down your boy when he started comparing my signature to a cult leader who is a pedophile, rapist and polygamist or to possibly the biggest tyrant, murderer and gynocidist who has ever lived?

I'm not usually one to harp on spelling, but that's one of the funniest misspellings that I've ever seen on a board.

Not to downplay the ridiculousness of your being compared to Hitler (which I also found funny, but that's just because I find the insane rantings of a madman funny).

So thank you, erudite23, you've almost been responsible for the destruction of my keyboard in a spit-take twice today.

Holy ****....oops. Hitler, the OB Gynocidist, eh?

I'll fix it.