Sessions Update:Ramon signs T-Wolves OS (page 310 update)

[Bernman]

I still think a Gadz-Sessions for Thornton isn't a total wipeout deal. Hammond then has full MLE for this summer and next summer if he wants.

My only major objection would be that I think Thornton is an extremely overrated player. Jordan/filler like Ricky Davis/2 2nd's might be a deal of similar, or even lesser value, in perception, that I might prefer. That would be about the minimum acceptable deal.

I wouldn't use the MLE, unless we could procure Felton of course , rather I'd just sit on the money. That is allowed by the CBA, no? It wouldn't seem to be the case, following the Bucks for these many years.

Camby/2nd might be another example of an acceptable deal, which may be considered of lower or equal value to them. Then we could in turn package him with other expirings at the break, + a '11 pick and/or prospect, for an impact veteran.

Going by one of the Clippers' front office members "in your face" to Chad Ford, about Thornton's performance in the NBA, they'd appear to value him more than they should.

[paulpressey25]

First off, Sessions is a fine player. But this is all about opportunity cost.

I might be able to do more with Thornton AND 12 million of salary room than what I can do with Sessions.

Come the trade deadline there will be teams looking to shed quality players to jockey for cap space. We would be able to take a longer term deal under this scenario.

[LUKE23]

Come the trade deadline there will be teams looking to shed quality players to jockey for cap space. We would be able to take a longer term deal under this scenario.

Not really. We'd still be at $46M for 9 players for 2010-11 if you did Sessions/Gadzuric for Thornton. So you'd need to add a minimum of four guys to that and still stay under the lux tax.

Moving Gadzuric helps, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't do much for 2010-11. I'd rather keep the better young player, especially with how overrated Thornton is.

[jeremyd236]

Sessions/Gadz for Camby/pick makes us a top 5 defensive team in the East.

Jennings/Ridnour
Redd/Meeks/Bell
LRMAM/Alexander
Camby/Ersan/Amir
Bogut/Elson


nobody scores down low. (For them and for us).

[Bernman]

Also, without dealing for another expiring contract, like Camby, the Bucks would need to hold onto every one of their current exprings, like Bowen, Thomas, Ridnour, and AJ; 3 of 4 they've bandied about in trade talks recently. Keep that in mind. Can't release Bowen, include him in a trade. Buyout KT, or include him in a trade. That constricts some options.

Anyways, your proposed deal doesn't work under the CBA terms. Need so more filler to move within the Ships' trade exception and cap limits.

[raferfenix]

Bulls now rumored to be pushing for Lee in a sign and trade. I'm not sure what they trade for him---maybe he'd be part of a 3 way deal? I also think it'd be a mistake for them to trade Tyrus Thomas for him, but maybe they'd be willing to do it.

For us, I would be more interested in acquiring Tyrus on his rookie deal than overpaying Lee in a Sessions sign and trade.

[carmelbrownqueen]

Topic cleanser: Anyone catch So You Think You Can Dance last night? No? Just me huh? Ok.

Love that show.

[Neapolitan Buck]

Sessions/Gadz for Camby/pick makes us a top 5 defensive team in the East.

Jennings/Ridnour
Redd/Meeks/Bell
LRMAM/Alexander
Camby/Ersan/Amir
Bogut/Elson


nobody scores down low. (For them and for us).

[europa]

Bulls now rumored to be pushing for Lee in a sign and trade. I'm not sure what they trade for him

Maybe the Knicks are looking at Hinrich now.

[trwi7]

Topic cleanser: Anyone catch So You Think You Can Dance last night? No? Just me huh? Ok.

Love that show.

I can only get into shows like that in the beginning when they weed out who's good and who sucks. I love watching all the sucky people who think they can dance/sing and then see their reactions when they get rejected.

[illastrate]

looking at the Clippers' team, i have to ask - reality check - why are they even in the Sessions bidding at all? they already have baron Davis - who nobody is going to take off their hands. they have eric gordon at Sg. they now have telfair. and they have mardy Collins - a young point guard . i can't understand why the Clippers would even make an offer unless they were just trying to get the bucks to give sessions a bigger contract. normally a team makes an offer if it intends to actually use the player. i can't see the Clippers using sessions at all. there is no need or hole to fill.

Actually, there are a few holes to fill:

- Baron Davis will NOT play 82 games. He will probably miss 20+ games, you just can't trust the guy for a full season. There will be a NEED for someone to step in as a starter...hence Sessions. Ramon will get close to 30 mpg, easily.

- Telfair will be traded. There will be no "backup PG controversy" should Clips obtain Sessions.

- Mardy Collins is a 3rd string PG who can play 3 positions. If he gets PT, which will be minimal, Dunleavy will use him as a wing defender.

- Mike Taylor is not a PG, he's a SG. Dunleavy tried to turn him into one, but to no avail. That's why he's searching for a PG. He also will be a 3rd stringer.

- Dunleavy will play Sessions at both guard positions. One of the biggest problems last season was depth...the Clippers had none. Too many injuries forced benchwarmers to play major minutes. And even when Baron was starting and playing 35 mins, he was playing hurt or unmotivated. Sessions provides Grade A insurance at that position and Baron will be traded if he slips up again. The Clips will try to make Sessions their starting PG sooner than people think. Therefore, I believe the Clippers' need for Sessions to be immense.

[raferfenix]

Bulls now rumored to be pushing for Lee in a sign and trade. I'm not sure what they trade for him

Maybe the Knicks are looking at Hinrich now.

I don't see it, not with their 2010 plan. Unless Chicago is also willing to take back Curry. I'm thinking Sessions+Bruce Bowen is their ideal David Lee sign and trade, even if they resign Robinson on a one year deal.

[carmelbrownqueen]

Topic cleanser: Anyone catch So You Think You Can Dance last night? No? Just me huh? Ok.

Love that show.

I can only get into shows like that in the beginning when they weed out who's good and who sucks. I love watching all the sucky people who think they can dance/sing and then see their reactions when they get rejected.

That's the same way I feel about American Idol.. I like hearing/seeing people who believe they have superstar talent that are total and complete flops once they get in front of the camera.

The episode last night had a great performance by two of the contestants that had most of the crowds and all of the judges in tears. It was very very nice.

[stevescheffler06]

The episode last night had a great performance by two of the contestants that had most of the crowds and all of the judges in tears. It was very very nice.

Yeah, I have to say that watered the eyes (a bit more than my wife's scarily). Idol is too commercial for me. More about marketing then art. SYTYCD is all about rare talent and pure art, something this former art major can get on board with.

[craig]

I wouldn't demand an unprotected 2010 1st pick like Europa, but then again I don't anticipate that Sessions will be one of the best 30 players in the NBA like Hova or a top-10 guard like Luke. I'd very much like a pick, even if it's variably protected. (Not sure how the dollars match, but if it was Sessions for Jordan and a top-10 protected pick, and Telfair needed to get stuffed in to make the salaries match or something, I'd be pretty interested.

It's not like we're going to be rebuilt and a contender anytime soon, or that we don't have emerging holes in addition to the black holes that are already apparent. In all seriousness, I'd love to have three top-20 picks next draft, one for a PF to potentially replace the great Amir; one for a SF; and one for a SG to replace Redd, who will be entering his expiring year.

We definitely need picks and have plenty of holes to use them on.

I'd also be interested in a pick that was a 2011 or even 2012 pick or something like that.

[carmelbrownqueen]

The episode last night had a great performance by two of the contestants that had most of the crowds and all of the judges in tears. It was very very nice.

Yeah, I have to say that watered the eyes (a bit more than my wife's scarily). Idol is too commercial for me. More about marketing then art. SYTYCD is all about rare talent and pure art, something this former art major can get on board with.

Definitely agree, my only problem with them this season is their love affair with Evan K. I just don't see Top 6-8 talent in him...

ETA: I haven't watched Idol in a couple of seasons because I haven't liked many of the performers. I did watch the youtube.com clip of that guy who won singing Kanye's Heartless.. and loved it! That's about all for me.

Oh and I was crying with everyone else watching that performance. A coworker is losing her breast friend to cancer so it hit home for me..

[RamonSessions]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=kkgkpx

[Neapolitan Buck]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kkgkpx

If they add a 1st, I'm in.

[BDUB_30]

Gad + Ramon for Marcus would be amazing ...getting out from under that contract for next year would really put us in good shape .


Watching Camby and bogut play together with moute at the 3 would be something else . Imagine a lineup of bj / bell / moute / camby / bogut . I know , that lineup wouldnt score . But in the nba coaches like lineups that can change the tempo of the game and that lineup would without a doubt change the tempo , u could insert offense back into the lineup when you rattled the other teams confidence after you force some misses ...



I would really like to see this team aquire a 2 with great atheltism that can fill the lanes and finish about the rim . Meeks is a wondefull shooter and he does seem pretty smart going to the basket so he might be able to fill that roll ...



Exciting time for bucks fans ...Im really into the idea of building a team that can defend 1-5 and im very pleased with BJ's defense in the summer leauge .. some of the quickest hands at the 1 ive seen for the bucks ..

[LUKE23]

Jennings or Ridnour/Redd/LRMAM/Camby/Bogut would be the worst offensive starting five in the NBA.