Tom Moore 2.0

tmoore · Post #901 » by **tmoore** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:03 pm

Chances aren't that good with C.J. Watson, who wants multiple years and is restricted (GS can match).

sixerfan1976 · Post #902 » by **sixerfan1976** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:08 pm

chances arent that good with any free agent. because we will offer one year and the min. we will get the bottom of the barrel to sign with us in late august when all their other options dryed up.

lets go follow the roy halladay potential trade and eagles training camp opening.

do i sound really pessimistic? yeah maybe cuz i am. first time in long time i will not be buying a plan to watch these guys.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #903 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:22 pm

The Sixers are going to be last in attendance and ratings this season I think.

I'm telling you this team will be sold in 3 years.

sixerswillrule · Post #904 » by **sixerswillrule** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:36 pm

It said we offered Watson 2.3 mil. That's not the min.

tmoore · Post #905 » by **tmoore** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:18 am

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Post #906 » by **The Guilty Party** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:23 am

Thanks for the post Tom. While I'm fully prepared for it, I think the Sixers are in for a long year that takes them back to the lottery. In all honesty, it's not the worst thing that can happen for them.

The Sixer Fixer · Post #907 » by **The Sixer Fixer** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:32 am

tmoore wrote:Chances aren't that good with C.J. Watson, who wants multiple years and is restricted (GS can match).

If we are going after someone like Watson who is young and has some potential, I think we should be open to an offer of more than 1 year. I can understand the 1 yr approach (and I agree with it) for guys like Arroyo, Lue, Dixon, Hudson, B. Jackson, B. Knight, etc. All those guys have no upside and are nearing the end of the road.

Tom,

Any chance you think the Sixers will take a look at Jason Williams now that he's officially a FA. I have read that he's interested in making a comback and I could see the Sixers being a good fit for 1 year. He offers the 3pt shooting, he's a vet who can offer experience and he would probably take something around the min. Historically he's got a very good assist to turnover ratio and might be a great mentor for Lou/Holiday. While he's had some baggage in his past, it's nothing on the level of Tinsley.

tmoore · Post #908 » by **tmoore** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:15 am

I asked about Williams and received a lukewarm response. My guess is they'll go in another direction.

His assist-to-turnover ratio was very good, especially in his last 3-4 seasons.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #909 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:22 am

The whole thing about needing a mentor is one of the most overrated things in sports. Players grow 99.9% of their game on their own work ethic, smarts, and ability.

The Sixer Fixer · Post #910 » by **The Sixer Fixer** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:23 am

tmoore wrote:I asked about Williams and received a lukewarm response. My guess is they'll go in another direction.

His assist-to-turnover ratio was very good, especially in his last 3-4 seasons.

Thanks for the follow up. I guess maybe they don't think he's serious about a comeback. Can't really see why someone like Knight (among others from that list) would interest them more.

radrmd216 · Post #911 » by **radrmd216** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:26 am

Westbrook i think the mentor thing is a little overrated, but its good to have a vertern guy thats able to show young guys good habits and be able to tell them what they can be doing could be more efficient.

corwin · Post #912 » by **corwin** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:26 am

Since they're only looking to offer a minimum one year contract, we might as well bring back Kevin Ollie.

bebopdeluxe · Post #913 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:41 am

It's one thing to have a yabo like Royal Ivey backing up Andre Miller. We can't have Royal Ivey backing up Lou Williams and Jrue Holiday...we need a guy who can play a little. Actually, we need a guy who could potentially play 20-25 minutes a game...and most of the guy that Sixer FIxer mentions in his post above simply cannot play. If we could steal CJ Watson, that would be great...but there is no way that we will get him for what we are willing to pay for him.

I would take Jason Williams over Jamal Tinsley in a nanosecond.

tmoore · Post #914 » by **tmoore** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:43 pm

A blogger suggested front-loading an offer to C.J. Watson to make it more unlikely that Golden State would match. He suggested offering Watson $3.8 million for 2009-10, then the minimum (about $830K) for the second year to make it two years and $4.6 million. The thought is the Sixers are really worried about 2010-11 salary, since they have 10 players already under contract and the cap/tax are likely going down again.

While it's a good idea, the CBA only permits salaries to rise or fall by 10.5 percent (your own free agent) or 8 percent (another team's FA) annually.

sixerfan1976 · Post #915 » by **sixerfan1976** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:59 pm

at the end of the day..it doesnt matter who we sign......this is our team. Lou is our PG. This has disaster written all over it.

sixerfan1976 · Post #916 » by **sixerfan1976** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:59 pm

at the end of the day..it doesnt matter who we sign......this is our team. Lou is our PG. This has disaster written all over it.

tmoore · Post #917 » by **tmoore** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:01 pm

SF, the excitement after signing Brand 12 1/2 months ago seems to be gone.

freshie2 · Post #918 » by **freshie2** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:16 pm

I'm just not as doom and gloom as some others. I never expected the Sixers to be a top 3 team this year, so having Lou and Holiday as the PGs really doesn't concern me that much.

Overall, getting Brand back is an upgrade, getting Smith back over Ratliff is a pretty much a wash (they'll contribute in different manners), drafting Holiday short and long term is an upgrade, Kapono addresses a big need area, while moving Evans opens up the front court time for Speights and Smith...upgrade. Ultimately, the team's success will hinge on the improvement of Iguodala and Young...it will be interesting to hear how they play in Vegas, but I still expect to see growth in both players' games and Young could get to be a 20+ ppg player this season. If both players improve their perimeter shooting, and get around the 20 ppg range, along with Brand who will be around the 18 ppg range, on a defensively sound team...that's not too bad.

I know everyone wants huge jumps and major moves every year, but I just don't think the Sixers are automatically irrelevant just because they didn't make a big trade or FA signing. I would love to see a big trade where they get 2 high end players, but it just isn't going to happen. When you have young players with some star potential, there is a time where you do have to see what they can do...by losing Miller, some of the Sixers young guns will get their chance and we'll have to see how they handle it. The sky is not falling...

sixerfan1976 · Post #919 » by **sixerfan1976** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:20 pm

tmoore wrote:SF, the excitement after signing Brand 12 1/2 months ago seems to be gone.

there is zero excitement about this team.

some of that is the other teams are being way more successful than them right now

some of it is...we are losing miller and replacing him with a shooter and a rookie point guard who needs to develop a few years.

there is no way the team is better than last year.

new coach..new logo....same result or worse.

these vet min signings are just bench fillers...the PG is the only one that may play a little.

Post #920 » by **Foshan** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:00 pm

oof SF, someone kill your puppy? your pretty down yesterday/today!

While I'm pretty bummed about this season too, I would prefer having low expectations going into the season and doing that bad (expected)or better (and being plesantly suprised), than having the high expectations of last year (Sixers contending for real) and then having a harsh wake up call.