Sessions Update:Ramon signs T-Wolves OS (page 310 update)

europa · Post #441 » by **europa** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:25 am

No offense BDub, but you're not the only person who's been talking about putting the right kind of talent on this team.

BDUB_30 · Post #442 » by **BDUB_30** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:33 am

europa wrote:No offense BDub, but you're not the only person who's been talking about putting the right kind of talent on this team.

None taken , but i didnt say i was the only one anyways ...

YouthMovement · Post #443 » by **YouthMovement** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:52 am

Those "sources" are David Aldridge. Somebody from you state, and somebody from our state insist that the Knicks are interested...why wouldn't they be?

RamonSessions · Post #444 » by **RamonSessions** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:53 am

http://bucketsoverbroadway.com/2009/07/ ... om-knicks/

& I wonder what his source is.... :lol:

wichmae · Post #445 » by **wichmae** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:57 am

old skool · Post #446 » by **old skool** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:35 pm

A recent Wiretap article speculates that Lee might end up signing a 1-year Knicks contract for $6-million because the Knicks want to keep their flexibility for 2010. I don't see how they could refuse to resign Lee and Robinson and make Sessions a 4 or 5 year offer. Robinson and Lee would be cancerous in that situation - and understandably so.

The Sessions to NYK thing just doesn't hold water from my perspective. Obviously I could be wrong because I do not have even a sliver of inside info. just opinion. But it makes zero sense to me.

It is obvious that the free agent market is falling apart quickly. Teams don't want to spend for players who can still contribute. Hammond is looking better and better in his negotiation with Sessions, from my perspective. He will play the hand he has been dealt rather than over pay. He might get a bargain and retain a tradeable asset for a modest salary. Not bad options.

oLd sKool

EastSideBucksFan · Post #447 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:43 pm

Thats a copy of the wiretap, that means nothing

I have feeling that there is no offer sheet from the Knicks coming

europa · Post #448 » by **europa** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:14 pm

Interesting read from HoopsWorld about Sessions & the Clips:

The Clippers And Sessions: The Clippers continue their pursuit of Ramon Sessions, however it seems his camp is unwilling to commit to anything in L.A. as long as the Clippers have two point guards on the roster. It seems Ramon was comfortable playing with Baron Davis, but the idea of competing with Davis and Sebastian Telfair is too much. If the Clippers want Sessions they may have to move Telfair, whom they recently acquired in a multi-player deal with Minnesota.

Most of this is likely moot, as Milwaukee sources say they are likely to match any offers around the median exception, so unless the Clippers and Bucks reach a sign-and-trade deal it does not seem that the Clippers have any shot at Sessions, and it does not seem Sessions has much interest in the Clippers as constructed.

drew881 · Post #449 » by **drew881** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:42 pm

europa wrote:Interesting read from HoopsWorld about Sessions & the Clips:

The Clippers And Sessions: The Clippers continue their pursuit of Ramon Sessions, however it seems his camp is unwilling to commit to anything in L.A. as long as the Clippers have two point guards on the roster. It seems Ramon was comfortable playing with Baron Davis, but the idea of competing with Davis and Sebastian Telfair is too much. If the Clippers want Sessions they may have to move Telfair, whom they recently acquired in a multi-player deal with Minnesota.

Most of this is likely moot, as Milwaukee sources say they are likely to match any offers around the median exception, so unless the Clippers and Bucks reach a sign-and-trade deal it does not seem that the Clippers have any shot at Sessions, and it does not seem Sessions has much interest in the Clippers as constructed.

Oh yeah. We are so ending up with Telfair.

Post #450 » by **moocow007** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:10 pm

The general belief that the reason the Knicks is supposedly "backing off" is not because they are no longer interested but rather that the disagreement is about dollars and years. Appears that Walsh and the Knicks may be hesitant on going max MLE for 5 years (which would put this at around 5 years and $35 million for Sessions). The "backing off" is usually a ploy to try to get the other side to flinch (in this case, Sessions camp to lower their asking price). Walsh has shown that he's not willing to go overboard for anyone and that he can wait (sometimes from Knick fans standpoint, wait too long). Is Sessions and NY dead? I doubt that very much.

europa · Post #451 » by **europa** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:13 pm

The thing is, the lower the deal gets, the more incentive the Bucks have to match it. The best hope for the Knicks or any other team hoping to get Sessions was a full ML deal. That doesn't appear as if it's going to happen any longer. And that benefits the Bucks. If they're prepared to go close to the ML as HoopsWorld, ESPN and other sources have said, then it's going to be difficult for any team to pry Sessions away.

The best hope is a S&T. But I'm not sure the Knicks have anything the Bucks really want and the Clips may not part with the only thing Hammond should demand (one of their 2010 firsts).

Post #452 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:29 pm

RamonSessions wrote:http://bucketsoverbroadway.com/2009/07/23/sessions-offered-5-year-deal-from-knicks/

& I wonder what his source is....

I guess I haven't read this whole thread, but why is this funny?

RamonSessions · Post #453 » by **RamonSessions** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:41 pm

DrugBust wrote:
RamonSessions wrote:http://bucketsoverbroadway.com/2009/07/23/sessions-offered-5-year-deal-from-knicks/

& I wonder what his source is....

I guess I haven't read this whole thread, but why is this funny?

Stating that he's signed an offer sheet when he hasn't.

More importantly, clipsnation has news regarding Ramon's camp being uncomfortable signing only to compete with Baron, & Telfair for minutes.

http://www.clipsnation.com/2009/7/24/96 ... inks-three

Newz · Post #454 » by **Newz** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:02 pm

RamonSessions wrote:
DrugBust wrote:
RamonSessions wrote:http://bucketsoverbroadway.com/2009/07/23/sessions-offered-5-year-deal-from-knicks/

& I wonder what his source is....

I guess I haven't read this whole thread, but why is this funny?

Stating that he's signed an offer sheet when he hasn't.

More importantly, clipsnation has news regarding Ramon's camp being uncomfortable signing only to compete with Baron, & Telfair for minutes.

http://www.clipsnation.com/2009/7/24/96 ... inks-three

As I have said there are no teams out there, if it is true Miller has signed with Portland, that are good fits for Sessions.

Clippers already have Davis and two/three young back-ups behind him and OKC has Westbrook/Harden. The only team that makes sense is the Knicks and apparently they have no interest in him.

Post #455 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:07 pm

RamonSessions wrote:
DrugBust wrote:
RamonSessions wrote:http://bucketsoverbroadway.com/2009/07/23/sessions-offered-5-year-deal-from-knicks/

& I wonder what his source is....

I guess I haven't read this whole thread, but why is this funny?

Stating that he's signed an offer sheet when he hasn't.

It said he was offered a five year deal. It makes no mention of him signing anything.

Newz · Post #456 » by **Newz** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:16 pm

Wiretap wrote:The Bucks would love to keep Ramon Sessions, but only for the right price.

Sessions, a restricted free agent, is reportedly being coveted by the Knicks and Clippers.

Michael Hunt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel believes that the Bucks could match an offer to Sessions up to roughly $3 million per year. Doing so would allow them to keep Sessions, while remaining below the luxury tax threshold.

Newz · Post #457 » by **Newz** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:25 pm

So apparently the rumored number that we will match is 3 million.

5 years/15 millions sounds good to me. 8-)

old skool · Post #458 » by **old skool** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:30 pm

Whoa.

Wait a minute before we grab onto the idea that the Bucks will match if the offer sheet is for less than $3-mil. If you ignore the Wiretap summary of Hunt's article and read the entire piece, Hunt says:

"I'm guessing the Bucks would match anything up to $3 million the New York Knicks or someone else might or might not offer Sessions."

No news here. No rumor here. Just conjecture by a columnist. Just his "guess". The wiretap version makes it sound more like a report and less like one man's opinion.

oLd sKool

europa · Post #459 » by **europa** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:36 pm

The thing is, the J/S almost never uses a dollar figure unless it comes from somewhere else (usually the Bucks). So if Hunt is saying that in his opinion the Bucks will match up to $3M, it's very likely he got that number from the Bucks. Other reports have said the Bucks are prepared to match near the ML which is $5.8M. I think Sessions comes in somewhere in the middle with whatever offer he finally gets. I think $3M is too cheap for him and it's not looking like he'll get a ML offer from anybody at this time.

Newz · Post #460 » by **Newz** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:37 pm

europa wrote:The thing is, the J/S almost never uses a dollar figure unless it comes from somewhere else (usually the Bucks). So if Hunt is saying that in his opinion the Bucks will match up to $3M, it's very likely he got that number from the Bucks. Other reports have said the Bucks are prepared to match near the ML which is $5.8M. I think Sessions comes in somewhere in the middle with whatever offer he finally gets. I think $3M is too cheap for him and it's not looking like he'll get a ML offer from anybody at this time.

For some reason I get the feeling the final contract he will end up with will be 3/12.