Tom Moore 2.0

agiaco · Post #941 » by **agiaco** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:55 pm

I also think Tinsley would be a nice fit. He's always been a good playmaker and passer, and I'm not sure if we have either in Lou or Jrue yet.

Court_visioN · Post #942 » by **Court_visioN** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:57 pm

Luther Head I think is a better fit also because he's the best defender out of the guys that SF1976 mentioned.

Like SF1976 said though, I think whatever happens with the Andre Miller situation will allow everything else to work itself out. The process has just taken longer than anybody expected.

JA1965 · Post #943 » by **JA1965** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:01 pm

The only way I would sign Tinsley is if he goes thru a series of serious psycological tests (and keep an eye on Jrue and Lou 24/7). As for basketball, I read that he is working out with a college coach but he is not in NBA shape yet, he hasn't played organized ball in a while, but we have seen others (like Artest) get their act together. Arroyo is a safer pick, he is a good playmaker when things stall, and he will not demand to start. Tinsley has always started.

freshie2 · Post #944 » by **freshie2** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:04 pm

For my money, I'd stay away from Tinsley...not sure what he gives you based on what you are trying to build. I think if they keep Brand and Iguodala, you have enough veteran leadership and am not as concerned about youth at the point. The veteran min players I would prefer to see (since they are low expectation pieces) would be players like Gerald Green, McCants, Petro, Swift, Wafer, Carney, and Head who are younger players with some skills/athleticism, and maybe you can hit a home run long term by helping them reach their potential. If not, 1 year passes, they occupy the bench, and you move on. I would prefer that direction over a player like Tinsley, Marbury, etc who seem to carry too much baggage for what they bring to the table.

Bring Back 1983 · Post #945 » by **Bring Back 1983** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:30 pm

Tom brings up a good point about whether the Miller deal was pulled because they knew he had another offer or were worried about him accepting. I think it's probably entered the heads of the Miller camp that punting for a year and trying again next year when more teams have cap room (and will need to save face if the big names don't hit free agency) may not be so bad, despite the cap drop. The problem with this year is we can almost say for certain who will be in the conference finals on both sides, so it's hard to see spending money really paying off in 2009-10.

Portland has to know they need another quality big, along with a point guard, if they are going to compete with a straight face against LA. That's why it's hard for me to see how they don't do some type of sign and trade. The Sixers best friend might be David Lee.

ojr107 · Post #946 » by **ojr107** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:35 pm

According to Kate Fagan;

"Sixers free agent guard Andre Miller is finalizing a deal to join the Portland Trail Blazers, according to his agent.Andy Miller said the deal between Andre Miller and the Trail Blazers could be completed with a day.Sources close to the situation said the one-year deal will pay Andre Miller a bit more than the Sixers' most-recent offer."

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking ... tland.html

A one year deal means no sign and trade.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #947 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:36 pm

Hahaha. Miller never wanted to come back here.

No one wants to come to the loser Sixers, this is classic.

sixerswillrule · Post #948 » by **sixerswillrule** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:45 pm

Guess the Blazers don't want to keep any cap space. Oh well...

sixerfan1976 · Post #949 » by **sixerfan1976** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:59 pm

jasner says its a multiyear deal.

who cares......we are at goodwill trying to get guys to sign vet min.

my how pathetic we are......

Post #950 » by **sixers hoops** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:04 pm

sixerfan1976 wrote:
my how pathetic we are......

You really wanted Miller? I would rather watch Lou Williams and Jrue Holiday develop than watch them sign Miller and win 43 games.

SouthJersey · Post #951 » by **SouthJersey** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:09 pm

Dont want to say goodbye and good riddance, but I'm ready to watch someone else at the PG the position. I dont want to hear how much worse this team will be without him bc they werent winning anything with him. Man I wish we would have traded him last offseason.

sixerfan1976 · Post #952 » by **sixerfan1976** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:10 pm

no i didnt want miller back at multi year..but so much for sign and trade.

at least spend the miller money elsewhere on a one year deal instead of vet min.

this team just plucking my nerves right now

sixerswillrule · Post #953 » by **sixerswillrule** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:11 pm

It's still unbelievable that they're not offering partial MLE, 1 year deals...

Post #954 » by **sixers hoops** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:15 pm

sixerfan1976 wrote:no i didnt want miller back at multi year..but so much for sign and trade.

at least spend the miller money elsewhere on a one year deal instead of vet min.

this team just plucking my nerves right now

They reportedly made offers to Bibby and Watson and got rejected. I don't know how many good players are signing one year deals, but if they do, it is generally with a good team.

And Portland has said publicly a number of times that they don't want to trade Blake for Miller, so I am not convinced that the Sixers ever turned down a S&T for Blake.

Post #955 » by **sixers hoops** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:16 pm

sixerswillrule wrote:It's still unbelievable that they're not offering partial MLE, 1 year deals...

I thought they did to Watson?

sixerswillrule · Post #956 » by **sixerswillrule** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:17 pm

sixers hoops wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:It's still unbelievable that they're not offering partial MLE, 1 year deals...

I thought they did to Watson?

Yeah, but he turned it town. There are other guys out there...

Post #957 » by **sixers hoops** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:18 pm

sixerswillrule wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:It's still unbelievable that they're not offering partial MLE, 1 year deals...

I thought they did to Watson?

Yeah, but he turned it town. There are other guys out there...

Like who? I don't really like anybody else left. They're mostly garbage.

However, I am seriously asking "like who?" because I haven't look of the free-agent list in a week or so.

sixerfan1976 · Post #958 » by **sixerfan1976** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:23 pm

yeah it doesnt matter..the 3 -4 guys they sign are bench warmers anyway...this is your core team already...the rest will be just filler

sixerswillrule · Post #959 » by **sixerswillrule** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:23 pm

Murray, Gray, Hollins, Wafer, Novak, Skinner, Head, Rasho, Bogans, Carney, McCants, Dixon.

No one big, I know. But they will mostly get more than the minimum. There is no harm done in offering one year, 2-3 million dollar deals. That's what we should do.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #960 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:25 pm

The Sixers probably figure there is no point in signing those guys for just one year since they aren't competing anyway. If they signed them, it would be long-term, but they aren't doing long-term deals so there would be no point.

Also those guys have to want to come here also. Maybe they see the Sixers' plans and want no part of what they are doing.