Image

Anyone think this would get the s&t done?

Moderators: pacers33granger, Grang33r, pacerfan, Jake0890, boomershadow

Papa Irish31
Sophomore
Posts: 238
And1: 0
Joined: Jan 16, 2009

Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#1 » by Papa Irish31 » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:16 am

indiana gives: marquis and travis denier
gets back: tony allen, bill walker and ryan hollins and bost 2cd rounder

dallas gives: ryan hollins
gets back: gabe pruitt

boston gives: bill walker, tony allen, gabe pruitt, 2cd rounder
gets back: marquis and denier

im not sure whether indiana wants ryan hollins still after signing solomon, but it adds somewhat adds value in getting back walker and hollins two decent young players, maybe it opens up a trade of one of your big guys like foster or murphy, in which tony allen could be used as a filler/expiring contract in a deal with one of them

just an idea
User avatar
Dunthreevy
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,946
And1: 1,353
Joined: Mar 03, 2008
Location: Indianapolis, IN
     

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#2 » by Dunthreevy » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:18 am

No.
Feel the rhythm! Feel the rhyme! Get on up, it's bobsled time!
Papa Irish31
Sophomore
Posts: 238
And1: 0
Joined: Jan 16, 2009

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#3 » by Papa Irish31 » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:25 am

why not though? im not disagreeing with you because i think it would be hard to get someone to take back tony regardless, but what do you think is the problem with it?
User avatar
Dunthreevy
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,946
And1: 1,353
Joined: Mar 03, 2008
Location: Indianapolis, IN
     

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#4 » by Dunthreevy » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:35 am

I don't think we're going to move Diener. No one wants to take Allen's contract. Dallas has more of a need for a young big (Hollins), than they do for a young PG (Pruitt).
Feel the rhythm! Feel the rhyme! Get on up, it's bobsled time!
Papa Irish31
Sophomore
Posts: 238
And1: 0
Joined: Jan 16, 2009

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#5 » by Papa Irish31 » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:47 am

dont you have kind of a log jam at the point though?

yea im thinking at this point that the only way a s&t happens if its for like bill walker and jr giddens since they are the two most promissing players we have, but that gives you a ton of wings

but at this point i would bet more that marquis signs for the 1.9 rather than the s&t happenning
User avatar
Gremz
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 36,278
And1: 6,143
Joined: Jun 25, 2006
Location: I am a Norwegian Fisherman
Contact:
         

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#6 » by Gremz » Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:10 am

No, our point situation is solid, but to assume that Price will be a major fasset in that regard isn't wise.

Let's not forget that TJ hasn't had the greatest health track record. So I believe Diener would be more important than the depth chart would let us believe.
Image
User avatar
freeman
Junior
Posts: 328
And1: 1
Joined: May 16, 2007

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#7 » by freeman » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:47 am

Dallas would most likely re-sign Hollins. They're gonna need his energy in the postseason against the revamped Spurs.

I'd do a Daniels for Walker straight up if it'll work cap-wise.
Image

F R E E M A N
User avatar
Wizop
RealGM
Posts: 18,435
And1: 5,110
Joined: Jun 15, 2003
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Contact:
   

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#8 » by Wizop » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:39 am

Sporting News is reporting that Boston wants to do sign and trade but Pacers don't like what they are offering. that makes sense particularly considering the length of time this has taken. if Walker straight up appealed to the Pacers, the deal probably would have been done by now. I think some kind of three way will have to be worked out if it is to happen at all and I don't think Hollins is the answer. I think he fell off our shopping list when we signed Jones. we need a 3 to complete the roster and neither Hollins nor Walker fits that bill.
Please edit long quotes to only show what puts your new message into context.
laydo
Junior
Posts: 298
And1: 2
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
   

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#9 » by laydo » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:17 pm

How about Damien Wilkins, who was just traded to MIN?

T-Wolves already have Q.Richardson, R.Gomes, and C.Brewer at small forward. They also have the Bird's right to sign with free agent, Rodney Carney. Maybe they have more interest on Tony Allen.

Say, Daniels to BOS; TA to MIN; Wilkins to IND?
User avatar
Dunthreevy
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,946
And1: 1,353
Joined: Mar 03, 2008
Location: Indianapolis, IN
     

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#10 » by Dunthreevy » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:38 pm

laydo wrote:How about Damien Wilkins, who was just traded to MIN?

T-Wolves already have Q.Richardson, R.Gomes, and C.Brewer at small forward. They also have the Bird's right to sign with free agent, Rodney Carney. Maybe they have more interest on Tony Allen.

Say, Daniels to BOS; TA to MIN; Wilkins to IND?


I wouldn't mind Wilkins. He can score when called upon, but I honestly don't know much more about him other than he's Gerald Wilkins' son.
Feel the rhythm! Feel the rhyme! Get on up, it's bobsled time!
cdash
Analyst
Posts: 3,253
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 11, 2008

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#11 » by cdash » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:44 pm

Dunthreevy wrote:I don't think we're going to move Diener. No one wants to take Allen's contract. Dallas has more of a need for a young big (Hollins), than they do for a young PG (Pruitt).


I'd like to move Diener.

It's not Allen's contract, it's his off-court troubles that make him difficult to move.
Image
User avatar
Dunthreevy
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,946
And1: 1,353
Joined: Mar 03, 2008
Location: Indianapolis, IN
     

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#12 » by Dunthreevy » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:14 pm

cdash wrote:
Dunthreevy wrote:I don't think we're going to move Diener. No one wants to take Allen's contract. Dallas has more of a need for a young big (Hollins), than they do for a young PG (Pruitt).


I'd like to move Diener.

It's not Allen's contract, it's his off-court troubles that make him difficult to move.


I'm not gonna be heartbroken if we deal Diener. I just don't think we're going to give AJ Price that 3rd PG spot.

By contract I meant him in general. Should've worded that better.
Feel the rhythm! Feel the rhyme! Get on up, it's bobsled time!
Donerik
Sophomore
Posts: 105
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 21, 2008

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#13 » by Donerik » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:52 pm

I don't see a 3 team deal getting done without someone overpaying, it won't be us.
User avatar
Crossova21
Junior
Posts: 379
And1: 11
Joined: Apr 28, 2008

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#14 » by Crossova21 » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:56 pm

Read somewhere that the Nets might be interested in getting in if they can work out a sign-and-trade with Big Baby. Don't know who the Nets have that we want tho. Would anyone be interested in Yi?

At least we would gain a few fans in China :cheesygrin:
User avatar
Gmacc22
Ballboy
Posts: 12
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 23, 2009

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#15 » by Gmacc22 » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:23 pm

I'm not sure that will will get someone else in to make it a three-way trade. I kinda like the idea of getting Damien Wilkins and I also like the idea of getting rid of diener. I think we can since we just signed Earl Watson. I'm sad to say that it probably wont happen and Boston will just sign him. :( ..........Cross your fingers for a blockbuster!!!! :D
Ignite the passion, Restore the pride.
User avatar
Scoot McGroot
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 44,762
And1: 14,021
Joined: Feb 16, 2005
     

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#16 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:11 pm

Damien Wilkins would be relatively fine, especially as a half to 3/4 season fill in for Mike Dunleavy.
User avatar
pianoman
Freshman
Posts: 92
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 04, 2007
Location: Funcie Indiana

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#17 » by pianoman » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:16 am

nope...i don't think it would work...
Go pacers
Boneman2
General Manager
Posts: 8,314
And1: 1,665
Joined: Jul 07, 2003
Location: Indy
       

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#18 » by Boneman2 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:24 am

Crossova21 wrote:Read somewhere that the Nets might be interested in getting in if they can work out a sign-and-trade with Big Baby. Don't know who the Nets have that we want tho. Would anyone be interested in Yi?

At least we would gain a few fans in China :cheesygrin:


We'll take all the fans we can get.
"A man who fears suffering is already suffering from what he fears." -Michel de Montaigne
User avatar
freeman
Junior
Posts: 328
And1: 1
Joined: May 16, 2007

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#19 » by freeman » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:53 am

Brining Yi in Indiana would be a rewind of his stint with Milwaukee.
The Chinese people will do anything to get Yi in a big city with high Chinese population like LA, NY, Chicago, just to name a few.
Image

F R E E M A N
User avatar
glasket
Rookie
Posts: 1,197
And1: 11
Joined: Jun 29, 2007
Location: Sydney

Re: Anyone think this would get the s&t done? 

Post#20 » by glasket » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:00 am

We need defense and toughness. In my opinion Yi is neither of those.
No thanks

Return to Indiana Pacers